Complete the phrase: David Lynch is to Ron Howard as ____ is to Kenny G

[Rabrrrrrr]

Thought this was a more fun way to ask about favorite musicians, but in a way that forces people to answer only with talented musicians who have integrity and artistic vision.

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. Henry Rollins.

I don't know what Ron Howard has done wrong; I don't pay a lot of attention...Hasn't he done some good work?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Krzysztof Penderecki

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. OOoh... Slam-bang home run.

[Rabrrrrrr]

4. Ooooh, yeeessSSSSSS! YES!! I laughed out loud in joy at that one!

I hadn't thought him, but you are absolutely correct - Penderecki is the musical David Lynch. Or vice versa.

Goddamn, but I worship at the altar of Penderecki.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Eat your heart out...

In March of 1969 I was in the choir that performed the New York premiere of his St. Luke Passion at Carnegie Hall. The high point of my very short musical career...

[Rabrrrrrr]

7. Sweet! You are lucky, indeed. I have some friends who got to sing with him

when they were in various college choirs. I'm quite jealous of them.

Sadly, I was never in a choir until recently, and I keep trying to get us to do a Penderecki piece... and also Friede Auf Erden.

[ghostsofgiants]

5. Haha, good idea...but fuck, so hard to decide...

Ian Mackaye, maybe. Both in awesomeness and ethic. Lynch is all about DIY independent shit and being uncompromising in the face of commercial values.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

8. Mozart?

go big or go home

[jobycom]

9. Ronald McDonald?

Aside from the whole vague "They both make movies" thing, I don't see how they are comparable. Both are brilliant, both do different things entirely.

[ghostsofgiants]

10. Not sure I'd call Ron Howard brilliant.

[jobycom]

11. You don't have to. He still is.

He's got enough Academy Awards, critical acclaim, and commercial success to objectively demonstrate that.

[ghostsofgiants]

12. You and I have very different conceptions of "brilliant" if that is the case.

[jobycom]

13. Is that so? You judge it by some relationship to yourself, I take it?

If you like it, it's acceptable, if not, then not?

I freely acknowledge that there is brilliance out there that I just don't appreciate or enjoy.

[ghostsofgiants]

14. I also freely acknowledge brilliance out there that I don't appreciate or enjoy..

Ron Howard is not an example of that, nor is commercial success or Academy recognition a measure of brilliance.

[jobycom]

16. Okay, acknowledge someone. Give it a shot.

Name a popular director brilliant at a form of filmmaking you for whatever reason find beneath you that you still think of as brilliant. Someone with over 30 major award nominations, 19 wins, etc. Prove this isn't just a matter of you assuming your opinion is the standard all others should be judged by.

Howard is one of the most respected directors in his field by the people in his field, as the awards and success demonstrate. In any objective discussion, he'd be considered brilliant. He's not everyone's taste, but to deny that he is brilliant at what he does is unsupportable.

[ghostsofgiants]

19. How about Martin Scorsese?

I don't think of him as "beneath me" as you put it, but his films do little or nothing for me. I can see why he is respected as a filmmaker, but honestly his style does nothing for me.

Tell me, aside from citing his awards and commercial success, what makes Ron Howard so brilliant.

(And at the same time, I adore a lot of stuff that is far from brilliant, so I by no means consider myself an arbiter of what is and isn't brilliant.)

[Rabrrrrrr]

27. Ron Howard is solid and even, but I wouldn't call him brilliant by any means.

His movies are not awful, but they aren't great, either. They are well-made from a mechanical and crafty standpoint, but there is nothing in them that stands out as particularly artistic or insightful, or daring or visionary.

Ron Howard is the Dennys or McDonalds of movie making - the food will always be cooked good enough, even if it is lacking in spices and layers of flavors; it will provide nourishment and fill the belly in a pleasant way, but will not be memorable in any way.

He's like a tech school graduate versus a real engineer - he knows enough tech to get by and do his job, but doesn't know any of the underlying theory to get creative and play around with it and have a fuller understanding of how it all works together.

[ghostsofgiants]

31. But b-but but HE WON AWARDS!!1!!1!!

[Rabrrrrrr]

44. Oh, that's right - thank God we have awards so we know who we like.

God forbid any of us should risk thinking for ourselves.

That's why I get down on my knees and thank God for the Billboard chart every night, too. Otherwise I would have no idea what music I like.

[Writer]

15. Miles Davis.

[Iggo]

21. I woulda went Charlie Parker.

We're on the same wave, though.

[KamaAina]

33. Actually, I was thinking Thelonious Monk

definitely a little bit off center, but not too weird.

[Iggo]

37. That makes sense.

I believe jazz vs pop was what we were looking for, and all three of those nailed it.

[billyskank]

35. Great minds think alike.

:thumbsup:

[XemaSab]

17. Thom Yorke

:thumbsup:

[ghostsofgiants]

20. Good answer.

[MrCoffee]

36. Jonny Greenwood

[redqueen]

43. Yessssssss

:thumbsup:

[amitten]

18. Liberace...

I care not for David Lynch.

It's like trying to figure out a chess game using a stethoscope. Waaaay too complicated and ultimately boring.

PS--And no, I don't like Ron Howard either, for entirely different reasons.

[mitchum]

46. Lynch is like a dweeb who learned about surrealism as a teenager...

and never got over it

[Orrex]

22. Tom Waits

Though I must disclam that I have nothing against Ron Howard but would smash Kenny G in the face with a custard pie if the opportunity presented itself.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23. Gerry Mulligan

that works.

[XemaSab]

24. David Lynch is to Ron Howard as Stephen Gammell is to Thomas Kincade

There. :D

[leftyclimber]

25. Coleman Hawkins?

Charlie Parker?

John Coltrane?

Stan Getz?

Hell, BRANFORD MARSALIS?

Although if we're going for the weirdness vs. whitebread factor, I guess I'd have to go with Coltrane. But none of those guys play(ed) soprano sax except Branford.

[Iggo]

26. jazz : pop :: jazz : pop

Fuck yeah! I woulda aced that SAT had I not been too stoned to care!

[Burma Jones]

28. Frank Zappa

like Lynch, Zappa was capable of being commercial when it suited him........

[timtom]

29. Lester Young

[DS1]

30. Heino

because if you're suggesting David Lynch has more range than Ron Howard, I disagree. They both stick to their own styles.

And I think David Lynch sucks.

[ghostsofgiants]

32. Watch The Straight Story, then Inland Empire, then an episode of On The Air...

And tell me again that Lynch doesn't have range. (Not to mention his endeavours in photography, music, painting, furniture making, etc.)

[DS1]

34. alright fine!

:D

[XemaSab]

38. Well I think you suck

x(

[MilesColtrane]

39. Ornette Coleman

For those unfamiliar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsT5J6TJIkk

[charlie and algernon]

40. Geddy Lee

[Tommy_Carcetti]

41. Michael Bolton? Yanni? nt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

42. I would say amongst mainstream filmmakers, Howard is at or near the top.

It's hard to compare him to Lynch in any context.

[mitchum]

45. David Sanborn (because Lynch is only marginally better than Howard)

[Bucky]

47. Assuming the vector is "self indulgent twaddle to schmaltzy mainstream"... David Hasselhoff

David Hasselhoff is to music what David Lynch is to movies. You either "get him" or you have standards.

[LynneSin]

48. David Lynch is to Ron Howard as Rob Zombie is to Kenny G

:D

[CreekDog]

49. Complete the phrase: _____________ doesn't like Ron Howard

:rofl:

[Lindsey]

50. Ron Howard has made some really, really good movies and

he's made some bad ones. I didn't like The Da Vinci Code at all. But I think many people feel that Splash, Cocoon, Parenthood, A Beautiful Mind, and Apollo 13 were excellent.

[tigereye]

51. Coltrane

I don't think Ron Howard is as bad as that Brian Grazer guy who's his partner, though.