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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:39 PM
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Poll question: Why do you worship the ST:TOS cast and think that no one else can ever play those rolls?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:40 PM
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1. is that some battlestar galactica spinoff? nt.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:43 PM
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3. Star Trek: 1980
They find Earth, and use flying motorcycles to save endangered whales from the Cylons.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:44 PM
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5. spoiler: bones is a cylon. nt.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:41 PM
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2. CGI shall ruin the OS rubber monster effect.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 01:42 PM by Peake
Gorn, Horta, salt vampire; all shall be lost.

:rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:43 PM
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4. 1. Because when you get right down to it, it wasn't a very good show.
So a good portion of the original series appeal comes from the original cast.

Shatner's wonderful overacting. His toupee. His girdle.

Nimoy's music career.

Takei's goofy voice.

2. With the absense of the original cast, you haven't got much left. Just standard space opera crap. And even giving the new cast its fair dues, it looks like the movie is going to suck regardless of casting. It looks like a fucking Uwe Boll film.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:50 PM
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8. Actually, if you watched the show, you'd note
1. He still had his real hair
2. He had his shirt off plenty of times; no girdle be present.

What's wrong with George Takei's voice?

And you're wrong; TOS was action/adventure with some drama. TNG onward are soap operas galore, which occasionally shove in real sci-fi ideas as an afterthought.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:15 PM
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10. From the right perspective, it was a great show.
In the sense that no one had ever done anything like it before, at such a budget, and in that the original audience didn't even know how to watch it.

In retrospect, I will agree that it was as sucky as you want it to be. Pee-YEW! Writing that beat us over the head, acting as cheesy as anything that's ever hit the small screen, and production values that were primitive at best. Yet compared to what came before, TOS was the gold standard, and in many ways it exceeded the quality of anything that came after it for several years.

It was a great show. Was.

It's impossible for other actors to play those parts exactly to the extent that the characters are iconic. If the cheese isn't troweled on, it ain't Trek, yet I am ready to watch someone else in the roles. These new actors will have to strike a balance between faithfulness and reinvention. They won't make everyone happy, but that's on them for attempting the nigh-impossible.

They didn't have to resurrect the old characters at all. They're doing so, ostensibly, because they believe they have something new and wonderful to say with them. God help 'em if they're wrong. If their portrayals aren't faithful enough, and the movie stinks, they will never be forgiven. If their portrayals are off, but the movie rocks anyway, the concept of faithfulness will be largely forgotten--and they will become iconic, though they may leave a few diehards behind.

In short, it's not necessarily up to us to suspend our disbelief. It's up to the production team to make us believe. They're not gonna do that with a bad movie.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:49 PM
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6. They can play the roles, but today's society often changes the PREMISE,
which renders the original ideas extinct. At which point, why bother re-using the old character names? May as throw Kirk into an episode of "Three's Company" or "The A-Team" and it'd be no different.

"Space is a dangerous place", without a context, can mean any number of things -- add in "we want you to help other civilizations mature" and it'll be acceptable. What are the chances of that happening? Um, ZERO?

Plus, this movie filled with mannequin-like pretty 20 year-olds is another failing; modern audiences said to not care for older people.

Glossy style. No content. "Style over substance". A waste of money and time.

Russell T Davies - the producer of a different tv series that also features young mannequins - believes that garbage too, when otherwise playing into every stereotype in the book (instead of fighting against them.)

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:50 PM
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7. Which one is the star wars?
:rofl:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:03 PM
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9. I think the show has a retro charm that is going to be lost in the new movie.
I'll probably go see it anyway. But the cult status of TOS is bundled up with the original actors. This new movie is more like fan art. It will be a worshipful homage with a large budget.

And my mom's office is actually upstairs. :)
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:37 PM
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11. I do NOT live in my parents' basement!!
They don't even have a basement! So stop saying that.

Bake
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:44 PM
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12. Because I have good taste.
So tell me...Would you want to see a reinvention of ST:TNG..Come on tell me you don't want anyone but Patrick Stewart playing Jean-Luc Picard.
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