Weeds thread - oh my!

[RainDog]

Did anyone see Monday night's Weeds? If I didn't have Showtime.. (oh, that's right, I don't) I would watch this on tv-video.net, where every episode of every season of Weeds is up. I actually own the first two seasons, so they're getting revenue from me, fwiw.

anyway, this guy, Estaban, is A MILLION times better than Modine, who was just too suburban creepy for me. Why is Modine creepier to me than a guy who likes to watch the animals in his zoo, uh, as they operate in the wild?

So Weeds is going into Nancy's need for speed, so to speak, and a little masochism as a way to make those sad memories go away. To be a user instead of the used in other situations.

oh, and Silas' relationship with the MILF is also interesting. I have to say that I like this on Weeds MUCH MORE than Albert Brooks and his comatose mom. I felt like I needed to open the windows after watching those claustrophobic episodes.

I just wonder if the remodeling on the beach house, to get that other bathroom, will include a underground "railroad" to Mexico?

Oh and Andy and Doug's Coyote moment is hysterical. Andy as Moses. LOL.

[Xithras]

1. I've been unimpressed this season.

The last episode was interesting, but the show seems to have changed gears this season. The series was always about the dramas of a widowed suburban housewife who tried to balance her duties as an upper middle class suburban mom with her hidden job as a pot dealer. There were a lot of potshots at suburbia and social commentary about the busybodies who inhabit it and see themselves as superior to the rest of the world. Nancy may have been a drug dealer, but she was just doing what she needed to get by with her kids in an environment where everyone else was as fake as she was.

Now? It's just a story about a lady who deals drugs. The suburbia is gone, the social commentary is gone, and the hipocrisy is gone. It's devolved into 30 minutes of one liners and drug jokes, cougar references, and gratuitous boob and ass shots. They even got rid of the damned theme song! I loved that song!

Jenji Kohan should have ended the series last season. It would have terminated perfectly with Agrestic burning down, and the show could have gone out on a high note. As it is now, it seems like the writers are just stringing random stories together to try and squeeze another year of paychecks out of it.

[RainDog]

3. I felt that way at first

but I guess they needed to set up situations early on. Until Brooks left, I didn't even know if I wanted to watch the show. But I no longer think this.

I think this season, and last, especially, make sense. U-Turn was amazing - the guy who acted the part was amazing. Who remains static, esp. when life gives you one mess after another? (Life, as in your brother-in-law, your son and the pres. of the PTA?) It makes sense, to me, that Nancy, who showed she had a good biz sense, would be ambitious in the one field in which she has been successful.

To me, the danger she's getting into, and got into last season, was part of that. She still maintains a sense of "ethics" - as in no drugs, only herb. She saved Celia's life - and brutalized her, but think - this is the woman who destroyed the shipment that was her entire crop - the woman that created Nancy's "slavery" turned captain with U-Turn.

From that, Nancy came under the radar of Guillermo - and he got the rednecks to go after her, and he burned down her neighborhood.

This season - Celia is in a min. wage job that will not make it possible to survive. She has no health insurance.

Nancy is in a situation in which she can't just walk out - and where would she walk to? I think, honestly, her actions, in part, are destructive because she feels self-destructive b/c things always ended up messed up. She misses her husband. She has responsibility for two kids and she's not doing a great job there.

I think there is PLENTY of social commentary and looks at hypocrisy - and far beyond suburbia. I think there were still things to do in suburbia - she could go back and "pass" again - but I also like that the show is lampooning and looking at life for Mexicans - that's an essential part of so cal. To keep her in white-ville kind of denies the reality that she has become part of the drug trade, no matter what way you look at it.

Showtime signed the show for two more seasons. I look forward to seeing where they go with it. After the first few episodes, they seem to have gotten their groove back.

[Fran Kubelik]

2. It was a great episode

...but I am kind of missing the old Nancy...the one bewildered by this new world...the one who was trying to stay ethical while doing what she had to do to feed her family.

[RainDog]

4. She's going to marry the guy

that's my take on a rumor that she was getting married this season. He can provide her, via his position, with a way to change her last name, maybe. Certainly a way into upper levels of weed dealing.

I don't think she ever stayed "ethical" even tho her vulnerability made her seem more ethical b/c she could freak herself out with what she was doing.

Whatever you may have thought of her before, she now realizes she hates the 9-5 world and, given a choice, would not choose that (she did reject it with Maternity World.)

But would it make sense that her character never changed? That all of the things she's been through wouldn't change her? She's still holding on to her humanity... sometimes barely, as when she was practically dragging Celia around in the car - but that scene also served to make Celia sympathetic... that and the jail time.

I love the way that situation played out. The cops were just as corrupt as the crooks, and so Nancy was safe when she used this knowledge. She didn't kill him, like the Armenians did with Peter.