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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:04 PM
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Can someone recommend a dog collar for a no-neck dog?
Guinness is half beagle, half german shepherd. The problem is that his neck is the same size as his head. Unless the collar is so tight he is choking, he can slip right out of it if he pulls at the right angle.


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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:05 PM
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1. Can you just use a harness?
I guess you can't leave it on to hold an ID tag, so... maybe that's not so helpful.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:06 PM
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2. I'd probably go with a harness instead of a collar. nt
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:07 PM
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3. I am considering a harness, but does anyone know if dogs like them?
Can they be left on all the time or are they too irritating? Is there a quick harness I can put on him for walks?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:09 PM
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6. Actually, I doubt they like either collars or harnesses.
Still, they don't appear to interfer with the dog in any way.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:04 PM
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14. Mine does...
She can walk me without having to choke herself.
Duckie
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:08 PM
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4. Same problem we had with my mother's dog in the 80's.
We called her "Houdini" because she always escaped from the collar.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:09 PM
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5. Guess it would have to be a harness then
and maybe microchip him just to be on the safe side. My mom's got a yorkie-poo and supposedly they have soft tracheae and aren't supposed to wear collars, she uses a harness for him.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:14 PM
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7. Does he wear it 24/7?
Guiness has a short, stiff coat so getting hair tangled with the harness isn't a problem.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:29 PM
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10. Not always
He does have the poodle fur though and it gets matted. I'm not a vet but in this scenario with a short coat I can't really see where it would be a problem other than just getting used to it. Like someone else said, they probably don't really like collars either but you have to do what you have to do. One thing I would be cautious about, especially at first, is making sure he's not getting irritation or raw spots under the harness. Perhaps gradually introducing it for progressively longer periods of time would help prevent that and might make it more tolerable for him. Admittedly, the harnesses are kind of a pain in the ass to take on and off.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:17 PM
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8. Check out martingale
collars that are used on greyhounds. Here is a website with a number of links to makers of martingales. It might work for Guinness.

http://www.greyhoundpets.org/collars.htm
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:28 PM
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9. That was going to be my suggestion
We have them for our dogs and they work great. They sit loose but tighten up when pulled, but tight like a choke collar, just enough that they can't slip it off.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:30 PM
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11. He's such a goof I'd be afraid to leave a martingale on him.
He managed to get the s-hook on his tags stuck to the couch slip cover one time.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:48 PM
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12. i had to get a harness for my Sheltie. Big Neck, Needle Beak.
it works fine
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:53 PM
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13. Harness or "Gentle Leader"...
The gentle leader is effectively a halter, like the halter a horse wears. It forms a loop over the dog's nose
and connects behind his ears. A leash attaches under the chin. Some people will see the loop over the nose and think
he's wearing a muzzle...but it's not a muzzle, he can open his mouth, pant, etc. It controls the dog effectively because it
holds him by the head, not the neck. The only problem I 've ever had is with a dog who
decides to stop moving. Sometimes, if they are stubbornly refusing to move, pulling on the
leash can pop the Gentle Leader open. Other than that, it's great, especially for controlling
energetic, rambunctious dogs who are eager to run ahead of you.
And as to your dog's "liking" a particular harness or lead...he'll get used to whatever you choose, especially if
it's that or no walkies at all!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:50 PM
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15. Harness



get it at Petsmart. Both my old mugs have em on
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 12:50 PM
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17. Boy, that does look more comfortable than the standard collar.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 12:03 PM
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26. Good old Petsmart
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:54 PM
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23. Ditto! That's the same kind we use.
My dog, a border collie mix, was a serious puller until I got the harness for him. Now he doesn't pull at all, and he's much more comfortable.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:56 PM
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16. Harness is your best bet.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:03 PM
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18. How do you use the harness?
Do you use in place of a collar, 24/7 or do you use in in addition to a collar when you want to take your dog for a walk?
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:31 PM
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20. Only put the harness on when you are going for a walk...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:16 PM
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22. I think I'm going to order a harness and a collar for Guinness
One for walks and one for ID all the time.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:30 PM
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19. Check out the "Easy Walker"... I use it on my Shepherd..
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:59 PM
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21. How about
A necklace...get it? Neck "less" :rofl: Sorry....I will leave now
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:16 PM
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24. :-)
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:42 PM
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25. Harnesses have some great advantages
The only hard part is putting one on a high energy dog. My walks with my labrador have been much, much better after shifting from collar/leash to harness.

Cesar Millan (The Dog Whisperer) sells something called the Illusion Collar, which is designed to extend the neck without hurting the dog, but I'm not sure it would be good for a beagle. It would help with a dog that has a long neck, but one that is not necessarily more narrow below the jaw than right above the shoulders.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 01:38 PM
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27. Definitely harness.
Ask any pug owner.
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