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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:24 AM
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This is a picture of a man who I believe knows his "life" is pretty much over.


Suspect arrested in 3-year-old girl's videotaped sexual assault

(CNN) -- A man wanted in the videotaped sexual assault of a 3-year-old girl has been arrested, according to police in Nevada.

Chester Arthur Stiles, 37, was arrested following a routine traffic stop around 7 p.m. (10 p.m. ET) Monday night.

Henderson Police Officer Mike Dye said he pulled over the white Buick Century Stiles was driving, because it did not have a license plate.

Dye said he became suspicious after the driver gave him an expired California driver license with a photo that did not match his appearance.

Dye and another officer, Mike Gower, continued to question Stiles until he admitted his identity.

"He finally told us, 'Hey, I'm Chester Stiles. I'm the guy you're looking for,'" according to Dye. "At that time, he said, 'I'm sick of running.'"

Please note that I don't mean "over" as in "death in violent prison assault" or any kind of other demise, but rather that he's never going to see freedom of any kind ever again.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:29 AM
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1. I had a case like that once.
He pled to multiple counts of a reduced charge so the victim would not have to testify. The court imposed maxium consecutive sentences which amounted to something like 85 years.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:33 AM
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2. How do you sexually assault a 3 year old?
I don't really want an answer to that, mind you, but it's just too hideous a thing to absorb. There is something seriously wrong with someone who'd do that. :scared:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:35 AM
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6. "I don't really want an answer to that...."
You sure don't. One who fights monsters must take care not to become one in his own mind.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:25 AM
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17. I simply can not wrap my head around that
I seriously don't understand how that can even be done.
Maybe I'm just protecting myself from the horror of it,
but I also can't imagine what kind of mind can even
conceive of doing that.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:12 PM
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24. My thoughts exactly. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #2
54. They do it to INFANTS.
Yeah, there's a whole lot of shit in the world. Some of it is human.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. It's fucking heartbreaking. That poor child
It's sickening. And it makes me SO beyond insanely angry.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #55
58. Imagine working with children...
and having to check for signs of such abuse... having to check is bad enough... but imagine finding it.

:cry:

My hat goes off to people who do this work. I would lose my mind.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #58
68. My hat also goes off to them.
Because I know for damn sure I could not do that.
I'd never ever ever be able to look at the world the same way if I had
to see something like that.
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sagetea Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #58
123. It is very sick...
I was a janitor in a primary school,(K-3) and they tell you when you first start to pay attention to the restrooms for fecal matter. The week (S) before a school break, there is always fecal matter all over the walls and the floor. That is supposed to be a sure sign of sexual abuse.
Sick, Sick people to do that to the children.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #58
126. I had to let of the ob/gyns I work with vent to me a few weeks ago.
She's normally very cold, but I could tell she needed to talk. She had just been at the children's hospital. She didn't want to have been there. :(
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:37 AM
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3. They should leave his hair nice and long and pretty...
..for the general population. They would give him "extra special" attention.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #3
26. Yes
because when rapists are raped, they'll stop raping.

Or something dumb like that.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:05 PM
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35. Uh...
Did I say that?

I didn't say that.

Just think that someone like him truly deserves a taste of his own medicine.

Reality? They will put him in a special prison ward, designed with extra precautions, so he will remain unharmed. He'll receive a hell of a lot more protection than his victims got.

:grr:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:32 PM
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37. You didn't
imply that you wanted him raped?

Then why would you suggest they keep his hair "long and pretty" and put him in GP?
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:54 PM
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39. Of course...
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 01:55 PM by KC2
.. but never implied "because when rapists are raped, they'll stop raping."

But you seem to know so much more on the subject of prisons and rape than I do, so I have nothing further to add here.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. I know that I'm opposed to it
it doesn't take any special knowledge or insight to know that rape is wrong.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. I know it's wrong
It doesn't change the way I feel.

Obviously, I am not morally superior enough for this subject.

:eyes:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Well, I will jump in here
It always bugs me when I see those remarks and they turn up every single time a child molester or very nasty person goes to jail. It's not that I give a rat's ass about that particular person but the thought that people feel that using rape as a punishment is justifiable at any time makes me sick to my stomach.

I can't help but feel that the rapists are in prison for exactly the mindset that represents and I hope to hell we're not in prison because we recognize that it's wrong.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. *sigh*
I just can't separate the emotions from what is morally right or wrong here, I suppose.

It's a tough subject for me.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:27 PM
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46. It's a tough subject for anyone
But as someone who's experienced firsthand what its like to have another person use rape as a form of punishment, I can find no justification for it in any situation. Rather than that experience making me hungry for some sort of revenge, it made me realize how wrong and morally repugnant the idea is. I suppose "giving a taste of their own medicine" is appealing on some level to some people. It's not to me. I doubt if any connection would be made on the part of the scumbag anyway and all it does it highlight our own baser instincts.

None of that is a judgment on you personally. I know a lot of people can't help but see it that way. Which, to me, is why victims and victims' families are not the proper people to be making laws or influencing policy - they have no objectivity. But that's a subject for another thread.

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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #45
57. I agree. I'm not going to boo hoo in my stew because a fucking monster
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 03:02 PM by LibraLiz1973
child molester rapist piece of shit gets HIS ass pounded in prison.

Seems fitting to me somehow... in the "you reap what you sow when you plant the seed" way.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. Look... the guy did something unquestionably evil...
no one is questioning that.

But consider also that he is sick in the head... VERY sick... no sane person does this shit. Am I saying we should let him off? Hell no. Am I saying he shouldn't be punished? No. But am I saying that he doesn't deserve to be tortured? Yes. /rumsfeld

The desire for vengeance is sick, too, IMO.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:07 PM
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62. Differing opinions. I don't care that he is sick in the head.
The time to help him is long since past.
He is EVIL. Some people just are. No further explanation needed.
I do hope that there is vengeance. I am vengeful about what he did to that child.
I will never try and be PC and say I hope he is treated humanely.
He RUINED that girls LIFE. The mind shuts down even trying to think about what she has gone
and will go through- forever.

I sincerely hope he is paid back in triplicate in any and every way possible.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:14 PM
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67. Yup... differing opinions.
Were you the victim of a violent crime?

I find it fascinating how differently victims react... as for me, I don't wish any harm on those who harmed me.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:17 PM
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71. My biological father is a convicted rapist.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 03:18 PM by LibraLiz1973
I've never been a victim. My heart still bleeds for all those who are.

I think there are certain people so evil that they don't belong in the world,
don't deserve second or third chances, and get what they deserve whenever and however they are punished.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:20 PM
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75. My father was, too.
But he is not 100% evil.

I suppose that living with a pedophile gave me insight into how torturous it must be to have to live like that... a pariah who would be demonized for even giving voice to the confused shit in their head... one can only hope such people find a way to deal with their illness without acting on their desires & victimizing others.

But even if they do... it is not the end of the world... and although I do sympathize with those who feel the blood lust when they consider these types of criminals... I can't forget that they are also human.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #75
77. My bio father is about the furthest fucking thing from human you can get.
A terrible person who has never learned a thing in his life about humanity.
Massive monster piece of shit.

He's never apologized to anyone for anything and he never will.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #62
91. You keep posting this bullshit.
Noone is "boo hooing in their stew" over what this guy may or may not have to endure. As I said before, lock him up and throw away the key. Quite frankly if I heard he was offed in a Jeffrey Dahmer like way I would'nt think a thing about it.

However that is a far FAR cry from the bloodlust that you seem to be advocating. And you are insinuating that anyone who doesn't share your views is sympathizing with this guy. And that Libraliz is pure horseshit.

I don't know you from Adam, but just by reading your posts in this thread it appears to me like you got a whole lot of anger in you.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #60
106. Are Bush and Cheney perpetrators of evil, twisted, violent crimes?
Would you care if THEY were tortured?

Do they deserve a taste of vengeance from their victims?

I'm just curious.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #106
117. I still wouldn't approve of torture.
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 09:38 AM by redqueen
I think vengeance is just plain wrong, no matter what evil person is touted in order to tempt someone into condoning it.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #42
96. Much as we love to pretend that the monster lives on the other side of the aisle...
...it's here, too. Sometimes within ourselves.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #42
100. This creature cannot possibly be rehabilitated, for his crime can never ever be expiated. EVER.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 08:05 PM by WinkyDink
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:09 PM
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43. You know, you just might be right.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 02:10 PM by amitten
I hope they sock it to him but good.

Karma, baby. 'Cause he raped a baby. In my opinion, any punishment he gets is well deserved and probably less than sufficient.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #26
99. Oh, he'll stop in prison, all right.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:26 AM
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4. As it should be. Lock the fucker up and throw away the key.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:33 AM
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5. Right. Even if he survives in prison,
he has no life left. Ever. He's going to be miserable for every remaining day he has left, and he knows it.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:36 AM
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7. He won't survive prison.
I used to work with parolees. His fate will be that of Jeffry Dahmer's and no, I don't care.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:35 PM
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28. Aren't such inmates usually kept in isolation for their own safety? -nt
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. So was Dahmer.
Remember, qualified inmates do paperwork, including things like inmate schedules.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:40 AM
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8. There's no way he feels as bad as I wished he felt. n/t
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:44 AM
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9. Whatever Chester. As long as no other children are harmed. n/t
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:48 AM
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10. At the very bottom of the food chain
He will get cut


CB
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:56 AM
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11. You had it right with "death in violent prison assault."
If he really did that to a three year-old, then that death can't come fast enough for me.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:10 AM
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12. I honestly don't want him to die.
I want him convicted and put in general population for as long as his sentence is good for.

I don't think life in isolation on Death Row for 10 years, then a humane euthanasia is a very good punishment.

Just my opinion.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. I agree, actually.
Patch him up occasionally, then escort him courteously back out there. Make sure he's got 20, 30 years on the block.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. He's facing additional fed charges about another underage assault.
I don't see him getting out of prison alive.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #12
22. I agree. I'd love to hear that he's going to spend 40 years
in general population dealing with people who will hate him.

I think that's the meanest, most vicious thing we could do to him. And I know damned well I'm being vindictive thinking this way, but I still think that's what he should have to endure.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:33 PM
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27. Part of me agrees with you.
I think if he lived for 60-65 more years and suffered every day, that'd be great. On the other hand, with overcrowded prisons and insanse incarceration costs, we'd all be better off if he took a shiv in the gut sooner than later.

The thing is that he'll never live long enough to die of natural causes if he gets thrown in generap population. Once you do that, you pretty much guarantee that he won't make the 10 years you mentioned in Death Row.

FYI, I wasn't talking about the death penalty - I was talking about the violent death you originally mentioned, the sort of exit that was arranged for Jeffrey Dahmer.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:23 AM
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15. His name is Chester...
And he is a child molester...


Well that is irony.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. You are going to hell!
I should not be laughing.

I am going to hell too.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:26 AM
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18. I am surprised no one posted this before I did.
I know there are enough twisted people on this board. I will be right there with you.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #18
23. I did...in GD.
See you there! :hi:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #23
51. There is room on the handbasket!
:hi:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:37 PM
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112. I thought being named Chester caused such things
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:32 AM
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19. This bag of shit was bragging to anyone who would listen that he wouldn't be taken alive.
Like all cowards, he'll go out with and whimper and unfortunately, not a bang.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:33 AM
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20. don't denigrate bags of shit by comparing them with this waste of good oxygen
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:35 AM
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21. Point taken.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:16 PM
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25. I'm always amazed that these guys, the most notorious criminals,
are caught in routine traffic stops. This guy, Timothy McVeigh, etc. I guess, if you're tired of running, this is the easiest way to get caught--no license plate. Still, I find it interesting.

However he got caught, I'm glad he can't harm any more children.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:38 PM
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29. Holy Shit! It's the Geico caveman!!!
:wow:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:42 PM
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30. I love how you all "know"
what'll happen to him in prison.

like you got all your hardcore prison info from some 70's Movie of the Week.

and then you cheer it on! Because raping rapists is the way to disapprove of rape.

He'll be in protective custody for the rest of his life, as much as that saddens you and fucks up your bloodlust.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. But, you know, some resourceful inmate will find a way around protection! For great justice!
Rape 'Chester'! You know what you doing!
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #30
38. Well this is a first.
We are in agreement. I love how all these good progressive swarm in threads like this with foaming mouths, salivating over the repeated beating and rape of this guy.

Lock him up. Throw away the key. Forever.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #38
41. I adore pugs
so that's two things we agree on, at least.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #41
47. Okay then.
Here's my boy Rocco just for you.

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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #30
50. There is nothing unprogressive about wanting to see a child rapist suffer.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. Sure there is
wishing horror on someone is very unprogressive.

Don't try to defend this sick shit behind progressivism. It makes you look stupid.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. It's vengeance.
It's primitive.

It's *somewhat* understandable, but it is still wrong.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. yes
it is understandable, but we should recognize it for what it is and rise above it.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #59
63. I will never waste my energy fighting for scum sucking pieces of evil shit
like him. He dug his own hole on this one and I have NO sympathy.

Right around the time you think he's in as much pain as that little girl was, let me know.
Until then, I will STILL believe that ANY punishment he gets is not enough.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. Well good for you
bloodlust is ugly.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. Sure it is.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 03:13 PM by LibraLiz1973
What goes around goes around goes around and then comes around again.

He will get what he deserves.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #63
79. Who the fuck is sympathetic?
Quit with the strawman shit already. Because I'm not frothing at the mouth at the thought of this guy being repeatedly raped, beaten, and finally killed doesn't count as sympathy. I believe in harsh justice for offenders like this. As I said above, lock him up, for good. No hope of parole. I am not a member of the Taliban nor of any other primative society that would condone eternal torture. It would seem however that there are a few in this thread who think that would be perfectly justified. And that isn't a progressive attitude any way you look at it. It's hyperbolic bloodlust. And that is bullshit.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #63
81. Amen.
:thumbsup:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #59
111. BINGO
that is what civilized people do
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #52
74. Next thing.
She'll call you a pedophile sympathizer. She's pulled that one before.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #74
82. Yup.
It's her modus operandi.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #50
72. It's unprogressive
and childish, IMO.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #50
83. It certainly is.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #50
113. Progressive or not, taking delight in the suffering of another is wrong
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:43 PM
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31. "I'll have the roast duck...with the mango salsa"
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:59 PM
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34. I couldn't work in law enforcement and have to witness
such things on tape. I couldn't be the lawyers or the jurors either who would have to view such tapes. How people can be so inhumane is beyond me.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. I most certainly would like to avoid having to watch such a tape
but in all fairness, these people have to see children's CORPSES. That's far worse.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #36
61. to be totally honest, I'd rather see a corpse than a child being raped.
The thought of it makes me seriously ill.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #61
120. Me too - at least with the corpse
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 01:31 PM by Mad_Dem_X
you know that the person is out of pain. To watch a live child suffering is unthinkable to me. No way could I do that.

edit: spelling
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #36
109. Point well taken. -nt
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #34
116. That's why I got burned out on my job.
I worked at the courthouse for quite a few years. Most of the trials I took down were civil, where people were just fighting over money, but there were some felonies. Being around all those bad vibes of people being mad at the other side got to me, as did the lawyers and judges who got mad at me and popped off for no reason except to feed their egoes. Looking at color pics of dead bodies is not for the faint hearted either.

The stress got to me after I had to be in the same courtroom with some homegrown American domestic terrorists in civil court, and I ran off screaming and said I would not debase myself like that anymore.



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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #116
118. I work in education and even though I do not see the sort
of heinous things that one would see in law enforcement or the courts, the situations I hear about and the results of some very poor decision making are seen daily in my school. In can certainly get to you. I understand.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:34 PM
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48. Chester, meet Jeff Dahmner. nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:36 PM
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49. Oh his life was over a long time ago. nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 02:56 PM
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53. An ididot news guy yesterday said he had "illegally had sex with a 3 yr old"
I hope someone reprimanded him.. How would one LEGALLY have sex with a 3 yr old.. and it's not SEX..it's a violent assault.. There's nothing "sexy" about a 3 yr old or a grown man who attacks a child..

:grr:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #53
70. Only if it's the mutant girl from "The 4400." -nt
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:14 PM
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66. Within our society , there will always be a very small minority of people who are sexually attracted
to children , and a very small percentage of those people will eventually act out or try to act out their fantasies in the real world.

So I look at this issue as a Mental Illness issue, and all the punitive measures on earth no matter how severe or vengeful will not solve this problem.

What may solve this problem is research , mental health programs to try to treat those people , and trying to understand the biological, sociological and mental reasons for their actions , rather than dismissing them as "monsters" ,"deranged" , "evil", which is the easy route to take.

peace.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. I hope they figure it out...
it's something that messes a person up for so long... so hard to get over it.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #66
73. That makes sense about people who haven't yet acted out.
Like those who only downloaded kiddy porn or something similar.

Raped a 3yo? Fuck rehabilitation - this person is, and always will be, a danger. Keep him out of society. No, you don't have to torture him or anything, but please keep him AWAY.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #73
76. Bingo.
Lock them up. Protect society. Until we find a cure, that's all we can do.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #66
101. Maybe he did it just to sell the tapes.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:26 PM
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78. I agree that urging him into general population so that he can be raped is wrong...
...But prison justice is what it is. I would rather him get treatment, rehab, and long-term counseling. Locked up in protective custody of course, but getting the treatment he needs. Then, when after 10 or 15 years, he's been relatively "cured", make him watch the video of what he did to this poor child. Make him beg it to stop playing. Play it until he goes crazy. Then hang him. That's the only way he will feel anything remotely to what this poor child felt. I say he should suffer 1984 style.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. If there is one thing you can learn about child sex offenders, it is this:
There is no "cure" for them. They will be the first to admit it, too.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #80
84. Yea, you're probably right...
Hey, I just though of a way Mike Vick could make a few dollars, seeing as how he owes the Falcons 19.9 million dollars!
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #84
85. I've read all of John Walsh's books... and other
True Crime non-fiction. They all say the same thing-- there is no cure. It's unfortunate, but true.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #80
87. true
but there's no "cure" for any other crime either.

Sex offenders have lower recidivism rates than most other types of criminals, despite the constant drumbeat that they ALWAYS re-offend.

in fact, few do.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #87
88. Is that "Fuzzy * Math" you are using there?!
:rofl:

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #88
90. Nope
not at all.

Can you show me statistics that show sex offenders always reoffend? Because the REAL research shows few do.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #90
92. Here are some stats (and link) for you:
Of the 9,691 male sex offenders released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, 5.3% were rearrested for a new sex crime within 3 years of release.

5.3% is too much for my liking. But, if you can sleep at night with those numbers... well, more power to you.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm

Now... I really have other things I need to do with my day (what's left of it).
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #92
93. well
you proved my point exactly. Thank you.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #78
89. I don't want him in general pop to be raped.
I want him to be in general pop so that he can live in fear. Let him look over his shoulder for as long as he's there, worried about what MIGHT happen to him. Most children that are raped probably live something like this. I know many women do. I don't think rapists nor molesters nor anybody else deserves to be raped. They deserve to be afraid.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #89
102. that's a sane response
removed from the "let him get raped" and the "poor guy is sick"

he is sick

but it won't hurt him to be scared, he created fear, he reaps what he sows

:thumbsup:
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:39 PM
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86. put him in with the "general population"...
He'll last about 20 minutes...
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:26 PM
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94. ah yes, Chester the Molester, already coming un-done...
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #94
103. Our high-school narc was nicknamed Chester Molester
But only meant in a big-guy-who-spoils-your-fun kind of way.

This is wholly different.

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ivycat Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
95. there is a room in hell already set up for this piece of shit.
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Pied Piper Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 07:54 PM
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97. Please forgive me
To me, this is a man who has suffered from something terrible all of his adult life. He has committed a horrible crime, and he deserves to be punished; that is without doubt. And the crime he has committed is unconscionable. But this crime didn't come out of nowhere. We, as a society, need to learn where this behavior comes from; I suspect his parents, but I just don't know. There is no need for me to don a flame-retardant suit, as I won't be visiting this thread again.

I only hope that the victim's family can come to some sort of peace with his capture.

The blood lust on this thread sickens me. And we call ourselves liberal, progressive...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:00 PM
Response to Original message
98. Evil. Evil. Throw him into the prison general population. And look away.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 08:08 PM by WinkyDink
Yep, my Liberal bleedin' heart just done coagulated.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #98
105. Evil? As in good and evil? As in devils? Take this shit to R/T.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #105
107. So, you do not believe evil exists? There are no evil people?
Cheney? Bush? Rumsfeld? Hitler?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #107
108. I do not need metaphysical horsehit to explain Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld or Hitler.
Do you?
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #108
121. So, you believe there are NO evil people.
A simple yes or no will suffice.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #121
122. NO.
There are however damaged people, judgmental people, stupid people, etc. The DSM is better at describing people than evil/good dichotomies.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #122
127. There are a certain number of people who are not stupid or damaged,
but have nothing but raw evil at their core.

"Judgmental" doesn't even begin to cover what the Nazis did. Or Pol Pot. Or Stalin.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #127
128. True, but to say evil caused WW2 doesn't cut it.
The Nazis, Pol Pot and Stalin were systemic, supported by millions of people and can only be understood in political and economic terms.

Stiles is simply way fucked up.

Check out this psychiatrist. He's examining people like Stiles and attempting to measure depravity as something separate and distinct from simple mental illness.

https://depravityscale.org/depscale/index.html

In any event, to write these events off as the product of evil accomplishes nothing.
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:10 PM
Response to Original message
104. Hope he has fun in the general population
I'm sure it won't be as enjoyable for him when the shoe is on the other foot. And no I won't give a damn if he's raped or killed.
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Zephyrbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:51 PM
Response to Original message
110. BARF !!
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

My brother used to be a cop. He said guys like this should have his dick painted orange, nail it to a tree, and push him over backwards.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:44 PM
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114. That's a meth face if I've ever seen one...
That's one sick, twisted individual.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:44 PM
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115. I just want to vomit.
I couldn't move for about two or three minutes.

Ugh. :puke:
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:15 PM
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119. well as it turns out this pig was arrested about a mile and a half
from my home in Las Vegas.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:16 PM
Response to Original message
124. This guy will probably get "shanked" in jail
while he's waiting for trial. If they don't get him jail they will try in prison.

Child molesters and pedophiles are often subject to "jailhouse justice" when they are incarcerated.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:17 PM
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125. yep
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