Updated with bikini pics: "Less than 30 posts to 20,000, Ask Me Anything"

[NewJeffCT]

Since I have gotten an underwhelming response for my, "Less than 30 posts to 20,000, Ask Me Anything" thread, I am taking a page from Tian ZhuangZhuang's book and adding in bikini pictures. (Thanks to the two responders in my other thread!) Granted, his topic was way more important than mine...

Ask me anything, and enjoy the views.

[Dr. Strange]

1. My question:

Why aren't there MORE pics?

[NewJeffCT]

2. I'm at work

it's hard for work that important to be subtle and on the sly... since I was posting that at work, which I doubt would go over very well.

[Dr. Strange]

3. I fully understand.

I'll wait until you're off duty for the new pics!

While you're waiting, you can answer a different question:
If A is the set of all positive integers which can NOT be described using fewer than 1000 characters, does A have a smallest element?

[NewJeffCT]

4. My guess would be "no"

but, I honestly have no clue what the answer would be.

BTW - this post had like 96 views on it in about an hour, while the original has had 45 in over three hours.

[Dr. Strange]

5. I think we've all learned a valuable lesson! n/t

[NewJeffCT]

6. can you, or anybody else, answer your own question to me?

I'm wondering.

[Dr. Strange]

17. I can, but it could make the universe implode...

Since A is a nonempty set of positive integers, it has a least element--that's because of the Well-Ordering Principle:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/WellOrderingPrinciple.html

This least element is the smallest positive integer in the set A, where A is the set of all positive integers which can not be described using fewer than 1000 characters. So it's the smallest positive integer which can not be described using fewer than 1000 characters. But I just described it--using less than 1000 characters. Therefore it isn't in A. And the universe disappears in a cloud of smoke.

This is really just a variation of Russell's Paradox:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RussellsAntinomy.html
Bertrand Russell was an early 20th century mathematician who studied logic when he wasn't looking at boobies on the internet.

[redqueen]

18. That's the kind of math that I enjoy.

:bounce:

Set theory? Discrete math? I can't remember what it's called, but it's ever so much more fun than just regular math. :P

[Dr. Strange]

22. A little bit of set theory and a little bit of discrete math.

For some of us, that IS regular math!
;)

[redqueen]

25. Well it's the best kind of regular math, then!

:D

[NewJeffCT]

28. here we are on DU talking discrete math in a thread featuring women in bikinis

who would have thought that?

[redqueen]

32. I dunno...

but any place is a good place to talk about discrete math. :)

[ThomCat]

27. Answer: yes.

In any set of postive integers, no matter how large, there will be a number which is the smallest number in the set.

There may not be a largest number, (because positive integers extend infinitely upward) but there must be a smallest integer (because there is a lower limit that defines the set).

[Dr. Strange]

31. Good call.

Now for super duper extra credit: find that number!

[ThomCat]

33. (1.E+1000)

1, with 1000 zeros after it. That would give it a total of 1001 characters (more than 1000, per your requirement), and it would be the very first integer with 1001 characters.

[Dr. Strange]

35. Wait a minute!

the very first integer with 1001 characters.

You just described it using less than 1000 characters. (I suppose a better description might be "the first positive integer which consists of 1001 digits.") Therefore it isn't in A!
(This is where it gets tricky!)

[ThomCat]

36. Um

Ah, you want a number that can't be described, even by notation or text, in fewer than 1000 characters. :P

I doubt there is any such number. Notation and abreviation can describe anything in a summary form.

[Dr. Strange]

38. True, but with a finite number of characters to work with (A-Z, 0-9)

only finitely many numbers can be described with less than 1000 characters. So the set A will have something in it. As to what the smallest element will be...who knows?

Man, all this math and girls in bikinis--it's like my qualifying exams all over!

[ThomCat]

39. "Really Big"

That depends, how exact do you want the summary to be. The more precise you want it to be, the characters you might have to use.

If an analogy can work, "as many as the stars in the three nearest galaxies" then you can describe some immensely huge numbers in a very few characters. You just have to find an accurate analogy.

I wonder what the point of this challenge is, though. Once it's clear that any form of description or summary is acceptable, what value is there is trying to find a number that can't be described in less than a chapter?

[Dr. Strange]

40. The point isn't the number itself--it's more the paradox that comes up.

It drove early mathematicians crazy! (See the Russell reference above.)

[Ellen Forradalom]

7. If I love to behold chicks in bikinis

does that make me deeply closeted lesbian?

[NewJeffCT]

8. maybe

or, just appreciative of the beauty of the female form?

[Ellen Forradalom]

9. I was thinking that too

We are pretty amazing, aren't we? I never get tired of the beauty of woman.

[NewJeffCT]

10. I doubt I'll tire of it anytime soon

probably a good way to check if I'm alive in the future...

[Beer Snob-50]

19. Women are pretty amazing creations.

Whoever did this knew what they were doing.

[NewJeffCT]

24. and, it's amazing

my original thread has less than 50 views after about six hours... this one is over 330 in half the time.

funny how that works, eh.

[Dr. Strange]

30. I think the difference between someone who simply appreciates the female form and a lesbian ...

comes down to whether you love to behold chicks in bikinis or whether you love to be holding chicks in bikinis.
:hide:

[texas1928]

11. Here these might help...

[NewJeffCT]

12. an impressive line-up

who says athletic women are not feminine?

[kay1864]

29. They're not really a swim team

That's a photoshopped picture of a Tampa cheerleading team from a few years ago.

[Courtesy Flush]

13. K&R

Where can we meet those girls?

[NewJeffCT]

14. the beach, I would assume

that's a place to start.

[ThomCat]

15. Ahem. Some pictures of men would be nice too.

:P

Equal opportunity eye-candy and all of that. :)

[NewJeffCT]

16. I'll try to oblige you when I get home tonight

hopefully, by 7pm EST or so.

[NewJeffCT]

34. Some Beefcake added here:

[ThomCat]

37. Wow! Brad Pitt never fails to amaze me for his raw physical beauty.

:blush:

That last picture is a really good example of why the new James Bond has a gay following. Damn, he's Hawt!

[DarkTirade]

47. Nice. I was in the mood for something different today. :)

[krispos42]

56. Thank God...

No bulked-up Carrot Top pics...

whew!






Awwww, fuck! How did THoSE get there?!?!?!?


:shrug: O8)








How's that instead?



Special note: Oh, god, I forgot to hit "Post Message"... it's been sitting here on my PC for like 12 hours. I thought the Mods had deleted it when I didn't see it on "My DU"!!!!

krispos42=loser :rofl:

[Beer Snob-50]

20. are these pictures from the CT coast?

I will spend more time vacationing in CT if that is the case.

[NewJeffCT]

21. no, sorry

I just did a google image search on the word bikini and picked three random ones.

[CGowen]

23. Does the best Bikini win in a Bikini contest or is it about something else?

?pic





http://www.thatgirlsite.com/2006/08/11/silvercash-bikini-contest-part-ii/
http://www.thatgirlsite.com/2007/08/15/yet-another-silvercash-bikini-contest-part-i/

http://www.thatgirlsite.com/category/bikini/

[NewJeffCT]

26. I'll have to check those links when I get home

but, I would imagine that answer is "no"

[Bucky]

41. Hey, Jeff, you look HOT in your bikini

I can't even spot the surgery scars!

[NewJeffCT]

42. yes, like my new boob job?

I spent a fortune.

[applegrove]

43. Bikini and hooker shoes. What a great celebration of the lounge!

Congrats of 30,000 posts.

[NewJeffCT]

45. all we need now is an Olive Garden, a Circuit City and a breast feeding mom who smokes!

then we'd be almost complete.

[applegrove]

46. Exactly!

[zanne]

54. Okay, what's wrong with Circuit City?

I try, but it's hard to keep up.

[NewJeffCT]

55. Circuit City was a recent one

Some guy got arrested for refusing to show his receipt when he left a Circuit City in Ohio. Nobody in the situation acquited themselves very admirably, but people rose to the defense of each side in a very long and heated thread...

[NewJeffCT]

44. More bikini pics

[CGowen]

48. .

[NewJeffCT]

49. My original thread has 50 views...

this one is closing in on 900.

That is 18 to 1.

[CGowen]

51. I haven't seen the original one ... n/t

[NewJeffCT]

52. Two people responded

quite a bit different with the bikini pictures.

[CGowen]

53. I wonder if people had responded if you had used really old pictures, like from the Roman Empire

http://win.villaromanadelcasale.it/inglese/sale/29.htm

[jeff30997]

50. BWAHAHAAAH!!!

Damn bastard! I broke at least 2 ribs because of you !!!:rofl:

Oh boy ! There I go again! :rofl: