The Duggar Family is now expecting their 17th child....

[MsKandice01]

I don't know if this has been discussed here yet but yes, the Duggar Family is expecting...again.

http://www.bloggingbaby.com/2007/02/06/exclusive-michelle-duggar-is-pregnant

[NewWaveChick1981]

1. OMFG...

:yoiks: The Duggar Clones have added another Borg to the pack...

Is anyone else thinking that MAYBE they ought to give it a rest for at least a year after having this one???? :yoiks:

[RockaFowler]

6. The Duggar Clones - Good One

That family was very scary.

[barb162]

49. They should have given it a rest several yrs. back

or adopted

[Darth_Kitten]

2. She had some complications with number 16.....

maybe not such a good idea to have 17. ouch.

[Chan790]

3. Well, they used to think that excessive numbers of pregnancies shorted life span.

Looking at my paternal great-grandfather (thrice a widower) who had 23 children, I think there might be some merit to that theory.

[smtpgirl]

27. I read that too somewhere

[SCDem]

75. Also an increased risk of cervical cancer

and that is proven.

[hedgehog]

173. From what I can see, there is some debate on that.

Apparently, the stress of vaginal birth on existing HPV lesions may be what raised the risk.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

191. If you have a cervix left after that many pregnancies

[Rabrrrrrr]

80. My paternal grandmother had 16 children, and she lived to be 76!

I love being part of a huge-ass family. It's wonderful!!

Not a very ecological or ethical choice nowadays, though.

[zanne]

95. My father was one of 20 children

Same mother and father. My grandfather died at 70. My grandmother at 84. Only five of the children married and had kids. Small wonder.

[leftofthedial]

4. if she was my sister

I would have personally cut his nuts off at about number five.

[madrchsod]

5. and the lord said go forth and multiply

interesting comments...

[LeftyMom]

7. .

[Shell Beau]

18. .

:spray: :rofl:

[Dastard Stepchild]

20. lol...

That's really funny.

[Scarlett17]

24. Hilarious!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

One for each kid.

[smtpgirl]

30. I love that picture, but the caption

is total bomb

Vagina It's not a Clown Car

[TommyO]

34. OMG, a perfect response!

And the first time I've felt comfortable using one of these:

:spank:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

53. ...

:rofl: :rofl:

[XemaSab]

65. Fuckin' A!!!!

:rofl:

[racaulk]

104. Oh that is so wrong!!!!

I love it!!! :rofl: :spray:

[Arkansas Granny]

138. That's terrible! And I love it!

:rofl:

[redqueen]

157. aaaaaaahahahahahaha

*dies*

[DainBramaged]

172. OMG how perfect

[AlCzervik]

8. oh boy maybe the discovery channel can do yet another show about them.

:sarcasm:

[Left Is Write]

9. I don't think my body could take it.

I've had three children.

[Ms_Dem_Meanor]

10. OMFG!!!

:wtf: :wow: Somebody needs to fix him and her after this one or two are born. She is at the age of having multiples. I think they already have 2 sets of twins!

[LNM]

14. What do you mean the age of multiples?

Is there a certain age where this is more likely?

[Ms_Dem_Meanor]

19. The older you

are the more eggs are released. I think the age for the risk starts at 35.

[LNM]

21. Holy shit!

Glad I stopped at 25 when I had my multiples. I thought that egg production reduced with age.

[Ms_Dem_Meanor]

28. it does that also...

it also depends on your hormone levels.

[LNM]

167. Hey! Did you give me a heart?

If so, thanks. That's very sweet. Guess I better donate.

[LNM]

11. That really frosts me.

I find it totally irresponsible.

[barb162]

47. so do I

What's wrong with 2 or adopting?

[stuntcat]

90. me 3

*sigh*

[MrSlayer]

12. I hope dude has a really good job.

That's an expensive proposition right there.

[AlCzervik]

15. he actually ran for congress, he lost.

[MrSlayer]

16. So he's got some cabbage then.

You don't run for congress without having money.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

192. From what I remember of the TV show

it appeared he had money..family money? I think it said he was an "investor."

[elfrangel]

13. Good God!!!

Haven't these folks figured out what causes that YET?????????????? Jeez...go get a vasectomy or something, at least use a condom....WTH?????

These folks live not too far away from I am at in Arkansas. We're not all idiots who want to keep having kids. Hubby and I want 2 kids, that's all. But, I really wonder, what is he doing now to support his family? From what I understand, he wasn't re-elected into office. He was a congressman.



Edit: Jim Bob (yes, that's his name) is a real estate agent and owns several properties around the area where he lives.

Found an article while I was researching. I liked the article and thought I would share. Here's the link: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/10/19/notes101905.DTL

Favorite Line: "Note to Michelle Duggar: If God wanted you to have a massive pile of children, she'd have given your uterus a hydraulic pump and a revolving door. Stop it now." LOL....

[Dastard Stepchild]

22. I love Mark Morford....

He is great at casting a humorous light on things. :)

[XemaSab]

66. They are quiverfull

Google it. :scared:

[SPKrazy]

17. Ahhh, Let 'Em Procreate

they're in ground zero when the pandemic is flown in on a plane landing in NW Arkansas Regional Airport from a vendor returning from South China for Wal Mart.

Won't be 17 of them after that.


terrible sentiment


just terrible


I'm in that terrible kind of sentiment mood here tonight.

I don't live far from them so I'll probably be toast in the pandemic when it arrives from China brought here by Wal Mart vendors too, so it's not like I'm doing anything but stating a probable reality.

:shrug:

[Nicole]

23. Better her than me!

:scared:

[texanwitch]

25. The Duggar Family will look like the family in The Meaning of Life

Kids everywhere.

That family has big foreheads.

[Oeditpus Rex]

32. Yeah, but

can fundie kids sing and dance? :shrug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8&search=monty%20python

[krispos42]

73. Oh, the Irish Catholic family.. rotflmao

[smtpgirl]

26. Once the Duggars have a retarded child

there will be no more.

Does that woman ever sleep?

[ThomCat]

45. I'm sure she sleeps very well.

she doesn't raise any of those kids. Apparently, when a child is born one of the older girls is assigned to raise that child.

Not the older boys, mind you. Only the older girls. And the girls also do all the laundy and cooking too.

I'm not sure what the mom does other than walk around and supervise.

I feel horrible for those kids, especially the girls.

[smtpgirl]

46. I personally would feel robbed by my parents if I had

16 other sisters & brothers. I wish my mother had a son, it would have been fun & nice.

But I would not trade my sister for anything, we agree to disagree, but we are definitely sisters, I love her so much. My sister is my baby girl.

I have one sister and that's ok with me. The older we get, the more we agree.

[mentalsolstice]

50. Well

I'm not sure what the mom does other than walk around and supervise. And one other thang...

[Katherine Brengle]

59. That's fucked up --

you don't make your kids raise your other kids. That's called being a BAD parent.

Babysit? Sure. Change a diapier here and there? Sure. But the vast majority of the work needs to be done by the parents, or they need to stop fucking breeding.

It's a damn good thing they've made a public freak show out of this - hopefully someone will take pity on those kids and help them pay for college, bc we're talking MILLIONS there.

Ugh.

Selfish.

Bastard.

Assholes.

End rant.

[Momgonepostal]

100. I know what else she does:

we know she has sex with Jim Bob.

[smtpgirl]

29. Guarenteed there will be a Discovery special on the 17th kid

Did you know that there was a Discovery special about the Duggars going on vacation.

The Duggars traveled in an RV, next will be a 3-decker bus as long as she keeps churning out kids.

[TommyO]

35. Nah, they'll just use The Big Bus

[smtpgirl]

39. I think maybe there will be a short bus soon

law of averages

[TommyO]

52. You're probably right, but here goes:

:spank:

[pstokely]

119. How did they fit over 10 people in an RV?

[smtpgirl]

31. One last comment, this is funny

I would not be able to stand one more moment in that bed with Jim Boob


At least some of the posters have a brain!!!


7. Turkey. Baster.

Posted at 2:25PM on Feb 6th 2007 by jen


11. This is like some kind of freak show. Dogs generally have smaller litters than that!

Posted at 12:51PM on Feb 8th 2007 by ann

13. I have reservations about this family on a number of levels.

They don't actually *parent* their childrn, apparently, Michelle weans early in order to conceive and as soon as a new baby is born, the old baby is assigned to an older sibling to be raised. It reminds me more of the parenting practices of a social insect rather than something seen in healthy human families.

Jimbob has effectively marketed his children and has bragged on about not being in debt. He has achieved this feat by essentially turning his family into a freak show to be seen by others. Is this *healthy*? Is it something to be imitated?

They also practice somewhat draconian parenting methods such as blanket training in order to get their children to be quiet and obedient. I'd rather have fewer normal curious children rather than 17 zombies sitting on a blanket.

The girls are given no 21st century options for their future, they more resemble women under the Taliban.

I'm sorry, it isn't exactly the largness of the family but a lot of secondary issues that give me pause.

Posted at 9:23PM on Feb 8th 2007 by Debra Baker


15. What I don't like, other than the names (Joy-Anna and Johannah are just a little too close for me.. and Jinger?!), is that the GIRLS raise the younger children. ONE GIRL does 10 loads of laundry a day. A few of the other girls cook.

What do the boys do? Play with power tools and whatever they want. And from what I've seen, it looks as though this is another family discouraging the girls from pursuing higher education.

Christ on a stick.

Posted at 11:07PM on Feb 8th 2007 by Hannah F.

16. I believe they must adhere to the "quiverfull" train of thought. Crazy, cause this world is full enough. We dont live in a day and age where women MUST care for children, not have an education, and basically wait on their husbands hand and foot. Thats what it seems this family is doing. Raising an 'army' of saints to do what? Make women into slaves and men into robots! Sorry, but it just aint right. Michelle has made herself into the QUEEN bee. She is nothing more than a baby factory. If the other "girls" take care of the babies, what is it that she really has to do? Basically, have MORE babies and pass the buck along to the others in the family. Other than family members, what kind of OTHER social enviroment, other than church, does those children have? Not much!
As I recall, this last baby was posing some problems for Michelle And the baby. If so...what is HER and HIS mind set in having more? What happens if with the birth of this NEXT baby, mom dies? Sorry, they are not thinking.


Posted at 1:39PM on Feb 9th 2007 by angeleea


17. They don't even get to socialize in church, they have "church" in their home (just them and 1-2 other "quiverfull" families) for which JimBob gets a large tax break (although he is not a certified minister). Michelle also homeschools all of them (although she is not a certified teacher - not that one *must* be in order to homeschool, but she married at 17 and has no education beyond high school).

And I agree, it's not the size of the family that bugs me, it's the fact that the gender roles are archaic, the girls must wear clothes straight out of Little House on the Prairie and are not permitted to cut their hair, the older kids are raising the younger ones so Michelle can keep poppin' them out, and Jim Bob (and TLC, apparently) thinks it's so very Christian of him to trot his kids out for TV specials and his own political campaigns, for money and free material goods. Doesn't that make him a PIMP???

They're famous for being super fertile, period. And exploiting their kids. Personally, I find him disgusting and feel sorry for his kids.

Oh, as for the person who wondered about college money - I wouldn't worry about it. The girls will never attend college, and so far the oldest boy is supposedly taking "online" college classes. Jim Bob expressed in the "moving in" special that he hopes they will all marry and build homes on the property. Cult, anyone??

Posted at 8:36PM on Feb 9th 2007 by ugh

[Savannah_H]

33. 17?

I counted only 13 kids...where's the rest

[TommyO]

36. They might have got "the gay"

[smtpgirl]

43. I have the "gay" and I was the first child in my family

what is my problem? My parents didn't have the right genes or the best parenting skills?

Or, maybe I was allowed to be myself and have an opinion.

[TommyO]

51. I have "the gay" too, as well as being the first child

it's a running gag here in the Lounge.

[Momgonepostal]

82. Don't worry, if one or two of the kids get "the gay"...

the parents can always send them off for 3 weeks to the treatment center Ted Haggard used, and then they'll be completely cured! No more gay! Taa-Dah!

:sarcasm:

[unpossibles]

87. no, they're ok. they don't eat tofu or use lavender soap

and I'd be willing to bet that those aren't the only measures they take to prevent teh ghey.

[JVS]

88. see those twinkles in the parents' eyes?

;-)

the photo is old

[smtpgirl]

37. If you guys ever watch the 17th child's entry into the Earth

we are yet enabling an 18th child.

How do you think the Duggar's survive? By TV specials and endorsements, fuck the realty business, TV is BIG business.

[philosophie_en_rose]

38. God will make them pay for every sperm that can't be found.

But, until then, they can add some more tater tots and processed cheese to the swill they feed their family now.

I watched their documentaries. They seem quaint, misguided, lazy, and sheltered, but not malicious or terribly fundie. I say misguided because she forces her older children to become parentified children. They're in charge of parenting the younger ones. And a few of the older girls do all of the housework and cooking.

[smtpgirl]

40. What the Duggar children have never experienced

good food!!!

The processed cheese, tater tots, chicken nuggets & fish filets are probably a staple.

If I had those choices, PBJ would be my staple.

[XemaSab]

67. Older= a 13 year old cooks dinner

and a 12 year old cooks lunch. :scared:

[philosophie_en_rose]

69. Cook = unpackage processed foods.

Tater tot casseroles? Cakes made from ice cream sandwiches?

Maybe sometimes, but they eat home-made fast food for every meal. yuck.

[girl gone mad]

117. I saw that. too.

They eat JUNK. But what do you expect when ten year olds are doing the shopping and cooking?

[HughBeaumont]

41. OK, Jim. We get it. You and your wife have had sex seventeen times.

Think it's time for a date with the scalpel, you fundamentalpatient.

And DUDE. WHAT is with the whole Little House meets The Brooks Brothers look you're forcing your kids to wear? I mean, do any of them OWN a pair of jeans or is denim "the work of the devil"?

[smtpgirl]

42. I think that you ae right HughBeaumont

so how's the Beev?

[HughBeaumont]

44. He'll be turning 60 next year.

You live about a stone's throw away from my sister in Silver Spring. Small world!

[smtpgirl]

48. Thank you HughBeaumont

the pleasure was all mine.

[Mad_Dem_X]

77. "fundamentalpatient" - I love it!

Word of the day!:rofl:

[JVS]

91. More than that. She had a miscarriage after the first kid

http://www.jimbob.info/fathers.html
I'm not saying this to be funny either.

In all seriousness, I get the impression that they are trying to compensate for that sad event

[Deja Q]

54. Isn't pride a sin? And this isn't pride, this is gross negligence.

[Akoto]

55. Great googly moogly. Seventeen!

This just isn't right. Though concerns about the parents' sense of judgement should be obvious, I really feel for the kids. In this sea of siblings, no single one of them will get the direct attention and love that they deserve. Hell, some of the kids are being forced to raise the offspring because their folks can't control themselves.

[QMPMom]

56. Let's take up a collection for a vasectomy for him, haircuts

for the girls and a new wardrobe for all of them.

Michelle's "parenting" reminds me of my sister-in-law. She could stand in the middle of the room and order her 6 kids around and not lift a finger. The kids did everything, including the older ones taking care of the younger ones. SIL also home schooled. Her kids are so backward and socially inept. It is very sad.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

185. Or we could hire Lorena Bobbitt to fix him right up. eom

[spindrifter]

57. Don't miss the Duggar family website--

Just follow the link from the url cited above. It is pretty amazing. I wonder if they have any pets.

[XemaSab]

68. Here

http://www.duggarfamily.com/

:popcorn:

[Katherine Brengle]

58. From that Oct 05 Morford column --

"Ah, but this is America, yes? People should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want with their families if they can afford it and if it's within the law and so long as they aren't gay or deviant or happily flouting Good Christian Values, right? Shouldn't they? Hell, gay couples still can't openly adopt a baby in most states (they either lie, or one adopts and the other must apply as "co-parent"), but Michelle Duggar can pop out 16 kids and no one says, oh my freaking God, stop it, stop it now, you thoughtless, selfish, baby-drunk people.

No, no one says that. That would be mean."

Man I love love love him.

[WindRavenX]

60. you know what, they can do whatever they want

And I am free to criticize the fuck out of them.

They suck.

[Katherine Brengle]

61. You fucking rule lol.

I think they suck too, and that's putting it lightly.

I'd rather multiply ONCE, feed my kid healthy nutritious food, let her enjoy her childhood, and be able to afford to send her a nice school AND even college.

Call me fucking crazy.

This family is berserk.

[WindRavenX]

62. you know, it's just not fair to the kids

Ironically, the eldest children end up rearing the youngest ones.

I would be more inclined to be respectful towards them if it was truly based on free will--but since many christian religions ask that one go forth and multiply, it is hardly based on free will for many, many women.

[Katherine Brengle]

63. And there's no "free will" for those kids --

they're homeschooled (which can be fine but in this instance probably not healthy - mom only has a high school education, married at 17 and pregnant ever since), home-churched, they only socialize with other psycho-fundie families...

Those girls are basically working full time to take care of their siblings. That's so screwed up.

They are being prepared for a future of breeding slavery.

I'm all for having kids, but this is ridiculous.

[WindRavenX]

64. well, I'm adopting

My SO and I feel it isn't right to bring more children in the world when there are so many suffering children that need a home.

[Katherine Brengle]

70. That's wonderful --

we have one (unplanned but wonderful) and we just lost our 2nd pregnancy - we've chosen not to try again, but to adopt several years down the road if we feel ready.

I have an adopted sister and I wouldn't trade her for the world :D.

[texanwitch]

71. Check this out, Tater Tot Casserole

Recipes


TATER TOT CASSEROLE
2 lb ground turkey cooked, seasoned, drained
3 2lb bags tater tots
2 cans cream of mushroom
2 cans evaporated milk
2 cans cream of chicken
Brown meat & place in large cass. dish.
Cover with tater tots. Mix soup & milk together.
Pour over top. Bake at 350 for 1 Hour.
(One of Daddy’s Favorites!) Makes 2- 9”X13” pans


Only makes two pans, doesn't sound like enough to me.

[Momgonepostal]

78. It doesn't sound like enough to me either

Unless they are only giving the kids VERY small portions and supplementing with lots of vegetables and other sides.

I've actually eaten something like that before and it wasn't bad, but it was very salty, and I'd be embarrassed to put that on a recipes webpage with my name on it.

[Left Is Write]

163. I was just going to say it sounds VERY salty.

It's also not how I made tater tot hotdish, which I actually haven't done at least since before I got married nearly ten years ago.

[krispos42]

72. Tie a knot in it. NOW!!!

Here's a visual aid:

[barb162]

74. or zip it up

[deadparrot]

76. We're snarking about it over at Television Without Pity as well.

I don't give a crap how many kids you have, as long as you have the means to support them. I was raised Catholic, so I've been around plenty of large families, some perfectly happy and normal, some not. However, if you're going to get paid and earn free stuff for showcasing your family on TV, you've opened yourself to criticism. And frankly, some of the "Christian" aspects of their life squick me out more than a little.

Mostly, I feel sorry for the kids. Especially the girls.

[Patiod]

79. Where in TVwoP?

I love that website.

[deadparrot]

86. Under "Candid Reality Shows."

"On the Road With Sixteen Children" is the current thread, but if you do a search, you'll come up with two locked threads which make for hysterical reading.

[LostinVA]

105. I LOVE TWOP

I introduced Haruka to it the other day.

She hates me now.

[AngryAmish]

81. I am so glad there are so many perfect people around here

I grew up with a family of 18. All are college graduates. 2 of my great-grandmothers had 20 kids.
I know a lot of folks from families of 10+ kids.

I know nothing about this family in particular but in the recent past families this large were not unusual. Please don't fear the different just because they live differently. Not everyone has to live like you.

on edit, I am not one of 18. I am one of 3. I think I was unclear up there- the family went to school with me.

[gbate]

103. I don't fear them; I feel sorry for the kids.

[misanthrope]

179. "In the recent past..."

...medical science and life expectancy wasn't nearly what it is now.

Polio vaccine has been around just over 50 years. Vaccinations in general have been around for not much longer. Antibiotics have only been understood and clinically implemented for a century.

There is something in this story that smacks of "exploitation" and I think that is part of what makes it so distasteful to some.

[deadparrot]

181. They are free to live however they want.

However, the minute they start whoring themselves and their children on national television for free stuff is the minute they open themselves up to criticism.

Plus, the "buddy system" they practice is awful. Mom breastfeeds for six months, hands the baby off to one of the older girls, and knocks herself up again. The girls, meanwhile, are responsible for dressing, bathing, feeding, and entertaining their "buddy" (*coughchildcough*) while Michelle and Jim Bob go for J44, or however many they're up to now.

That's not being a parent. That's being a uterus with bangs.

[slj0101]

83. Dear Duggar family:

STOP FUCKING

Love, slj0101

[gbate]

84. What happens if one of the girls wants to cut her hair or wear pants?

Geez, they all look like little clones of each other. Scary.

[dropkickpa]

85. Girls must not cut their hair

Unless it conforms to fundie fem-mullet regulations-fundy in the front, devil in the rear! :puke:

http://www.prisonpotpourri.com/HEALTH/In%20this%20photo%20released%20by%20the%20Discovery%20Health%20Channel,%20Jim%20Bob%20Duggar%20and%20his%20wife%20Michelle%20pose%20at%20a%20Rogers,%20Ark.,%20hospital%20as%20she%20holds%20their%2016th%20child%20Tuesday,%20Oct.%2011,%202005.jpg

Here's some funny stuff for all those HP and Duggar fans! http://ballsandwalnuts.com/?p=675

[devilgrrl]

89. Who's paying for this?

That guy makes that much that he can afford 17 kids?

:eyes:

[LibDemAlways]

92. Maybe if they had stopped at 16, mama Duggar

could find the time to get to the beauty salon and update her mullet - at least bring her into the 1990's.

[Momgonepostal]

93. A funny FReeperism re: the Duggars

I was reading another blog where the Duggars were being discussed and came across this gem:

"please give them a break.

I'm a mother and maternal instinks work overdrive. The need to care is very well protraded. Mrs Duggar my hats off to you. Buddy system is a caring and resonable way for children to learn and respect the instudute of life."

http://bunky.typepad.com/my_name_is_mommy/2005/02/the_duggar_deba.html

I have no idea what "protraded" is supposed to be, but "instinks" is one of the funniest things I've read in ages.

edited for my own spelling error :-)

[dropkickpa]

96. Well, it is an "instidution"

geez louise!

[Momgonepostal]

99. My "instinks" tell me that word is not spelled correctly either

but then what do I know? :-)

[fidgeting wildly]

147. Instinks! LOL!

Mrs. Duggar is so screwn. :rofl:

[Momgonepostal]

154. Literally AND figuratively! nt

[Left Is Write]

149. My maternal "instinks" wouldn't have allowed me to wean early...

for the sole purpose of conceiving one after the other.

[redqueen]

161. Thank you!

Those poor, poor girls...

:cry:

[judaspriestess]

94. awww, their own lil Jesus camp in the making

n/t

[Bunny]

97. I wonder how the mother will fare when she enters menopause.

Her whole identity seems to be wrapped up in pregnancy - what happens when the well dries up, so to speak?

[LostinVA]

102. Good point, Bunny

[pstokely]

122. She's been pregnant for over 1/4 of her life

[bleedingheart]

160. My bets are that since Jim is the one running their "church"

he may take a liking to polygamy...

He will convince her that he needs to continue to spread his seed and keep her on as chief wife...

[NewWaveChick1981]

98. "Would you pick that up for me, Deirdre?"

:rofl: Monty Python knew what they were talking about...:yoiks:

[texanwitch]

101. I have been thinking the same thing.

I think about that scene from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life everytime I think about this thread.

[Deja Q]

108. You mean, Deidre dropped the soap?

:wow:

[racaulk]

106. I wonder what "J" name they will come up with to name their child this time.

:eyes:

[Deja Q]

109. JJ.

DYN-O-MITE!!!

[racaulk]

110. ROFL

Thanks for the laugh!!! :rofl: :spray:

[Momgonepostal]

133. It does not appear that a name not starting with a "J" is...

much of an obstacle. They named a child "Jinger" after all. And two separate girls Johanna and Joy-Anna :eyes:

That's the lamest thing about large families with theme names for their kids. They ruin out of good ones after awhile and start resorting to made up stuff and bizarro spellings to stay with the theme.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

141. From the "rumour" link

that's in the OP's original link

"She said Michelle is due around July 25th and that they don't know what it is yet -but she's hoping for twin girls. I asked if they had any names picked out and she said they had been tossing around the idea of Jubilee for a girl."

http://www.bloggingbaby.com/2007/02/05/rumor-another-duggar-pregnancy/

Jubilee???

[dropkickpa]

145. Jubilee? One of my favorite X-Men characters!!

[fidgeting wildly]

148. I went to school with a girl named Jubilee.

I actually thought it was kind of a cool name.

[Left Is Write]

142. You know, I have two children with well-known "J" names, and yet....

neither of my children's names appears on the roster of Duggar names.

[Momgonepostal]

155. Yet! nt

[Left Is Write]

159. Yes, they may get around to them yet, but...

I'd have thought ordinary names like my kids have would be used before things like Jinger and Jubilee. :D

[Deja Q]

107. More like the Doggie family, just how big do they want the litter to be?!

:wow:

[texanwitch]

111. This woman will have babies until she can't, that could go into her 40's.

I had 3 greatgrandmothers who huge families, and they had their last kid in their 40's.

[eppur_se_muova]

112. So they've broken Pongo and Perdita's record?

http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/101/story_11.html

[TransitJohn]

113. You think they would've

figured out what causes that by now.

[Dukkha]

114. So fundy freak is there any tread left on the tires?

or is it like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

sheesh! and they're the people who try to claim "personal responsibility" as their own creed.

[Initech]

131. Stewie rules - LMAO!!!

:spray:

[guitar man]

165. ROFL!!!!

"or is it like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray:

[rug]

115. And why is this wrong?

[Katherine Brengle]

116. Well...

it's not exactly wrong. It's fucking weird for sure.

What I find "wrong" about it is how they do it - their older female children are basically doing Mom's job bc there's too much work for her to do herself - that's not right. Helping out, definitely, but not raising their siblings and having no lives of their own. I also think it's shady how they pimp out their family like some kind of freak show on tv and stuff. Hopefully it'll make them enough money to send those kids to college if they want to go (although I also get the feeling that those girls are not being raised for independent lives).

Also, they're fundie whackjobs so that tends to make a DU-style crowd a wee bit wary lol.

[Deja Q]

121. In an overpopulated world, you bet it's wrong.

:shrug:

[Katherine Brengle]

123. Point taken.

Can't argue with that, but in the same light one could consider ALL parents to be in the wrong, which I don't think is fair - it is natural for living things to want to procreate.

[Deja Q]

124. True, but as with money, there is a concept called 'self control'.

The media would crucify people in debt if it got them ratings, who cares why, yet the Bunny family here gets praise and kudos.

That's fucked up. (no pun intended, trust me...)

[rug]

127. Which of the 17 do you want to get rid of?

[Deja Q]

175. Not my business... but don't we all say we're supposed to be informed, and make smart choices?

That family will likely starve itself to death, however...

Family? Or zoo, perhaps?

[ScreamingMeemie]

139. This is wrong because the mother isn't raising the children...the

children are raising each other. I was all for the "hey it's their life" point of view until I watched one of the "documentaries" and found out that the older girls become responsible for the younger ones. Not just helping them out, but actually mothering them. Dressing, feeding, caring for them when ill, tucking them in. Everything that this self centered baby machine should be doing.

[Initech]

118. 17 kids? What the fuck????

:yoiks:

[Deja Q]

120. More like "Yes, the fuck" - 17 times over...

:yoiks:

[Initech]

132. To quote Bill Hicks - "Maybe we should take time to figure out this food - air deal!"

[MissB]

125. Yeah, but have you ever looked at their family recipes on their website?

http://www.jimbob.info/recipes.html

TATER TOT CASSEROLE
2 lb ground turkey cooked, seasoned, drained
3 2lb bags tater tots
2 cans cream of mushroom
2 cans evaporated milk
2 cans cream of chicken
Brown meat & place in large cass. dish.
Cover with tater tots. Mix soup & milk together.
Pour over top. Bake at 350 for 1 Hour.
(One of Daddy’s Favorites!) Makes 2- 9”X13” pans

LAYERED SALAD
1st- 1/2 head lettuce
6 boiled eggs, chopped
1/ 2 lb. turkey bacon, crumbled
2nd- 1/2 head lettuce
1 can peas, drained
1 small onion , chopped
3rd- 2 cups REAL* Mayonnaise
1 small container sour cream
Shred cheddar cheese over top. Chill.
*Be sure and use REAL mayonnaise, it makes a big difference! (One of Mommy’s favorites!)

[bleedingheart]

158. those are the kind of recipes my husband's family brings to

big family picnics or when they have a big potluck.....

[elcondor]

162. Two cups of mayonnaise?!

Plus an entire container of sour cream?! Yuck yuck yuck ... the only reason those kids aren't overweight is because these recipes don't make enough to give everyone a normal portion! Hopefully whatever Jim Bob does for a living (I've watched the specials on them and it's always conveniently vague) can pay for a few dozen angioplasties in the future!!

[philosophie_en_rose]

189. with only ONE head of iceberg lettuce?!

ounce for ounce, there's more mayo than veggies in that "salad"!

[MissB]

126. She must be a baby huffer

I get the occaisonal baby huffing in now and then, but I simply borrow newborn-ish babies to huff. (There is truly nothing more wonderful than the smell of a newborn baby's head.)

[quiet.american]

128. All the kids are homeschooled - and the girls do all the cookin' and cleanin'?

Sounds like an absolutely hellish childhood to me... but who knows.

[gemdem]

129. Do think they've figured out what causes this?

Just wondering. :shrug:

[BreweryYardRat]

130. Holy shit, it's the real-world Freys.

No one but LM's gonna get this...

[LeftyMom]

137. Heh.

:rofl:

[deadparrot]

146. A Song of Ice and Fire?

:hi:

[BreweryYardRat]

186. All right, so LM's not the only one.

Someone else with good taste! Yay!

Martin needs to hurry up and finish A Dance with Dragons.

[Zhade]

134. Selfish fucking maniacs.

Yeah, I said it. And they are.

You realize that's less than an hour with each child every day? That's assuming one parent doesn't work, which makes this family poor and on the dole purposely.

How is this NOT approaching child neglect?

[Katherine Brengle]

153. Well, they're on tv exploiting their babymaking skillz so they probably

aren't poor, but the way they are going about it makes me want to projectile vomit all over my laptop.

And I agree, there is no way to give substantial time to each individual child in this scenario. Mom's been pregnant for most of her adult life - I've been pregnant, you can't do it all when you are, it's just too much. Then add more and more kids every year, and you just spread yourself thinner.

Those kids are raising her "gifts from God" and unfortunately I think this might bias some of them against ever having children of their own someday :(.

[Zhade]

188. Considering our overpopulated world, these freaks may be doing a service down the line.

I am completely cool with people who are childfree by choice. Heck, I admire them.

[mentalsolstice]

135. Uh, you know, science has determined what causes that!

I guess there are a few who don't catch on very quickly.

[donheld]

136. I know a woman who has 11 kids

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[Puglover]

140. Here is their idea of wholesome swimwear

off their website.

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[guitar man]

182. haha

.....and her is an idea of her retiement home



:rofl:

[Maine-ah]

143. This is all I could think of!

There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.
I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.
You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood!

Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
God needs everybody's.
Mine! And mine! And mine!

Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaate!

Back to Religion

[deepthought42]

150. Now I'm going to have to go home and watch the DVD!

:spank:

[Deep13]

144. Not a moment too soon. We're down to our last 7 billion people! nt

[deepthought42]

151. Ew...

ew ew ew ew ew ew EW!!!!!! I forgot whatelse I was going to say....EWWWWWW!!!! Just wrong wrong wrong. The world is not overpopulated enough as it is... :sarcasm:

[mduffy31]

152. Wow, for Christians who get all upset about sex...

...they sure like to fuck don't they?

[Maine-ah]

156. roflmao.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Mad_Dem_X]

164. !

:rofl:

[grace0418]

166. As the youngest of eleven children, this just makes me sad.

It's irresponsible and unfair.

[Deja Q]

176. It is sad. But only the parents can be blamed.

[grace0418]

180. Absolutely, and it's the kids that pay the price. They won't see it now.

It's only when they get older.

[eppur_se_muova]

168. An INFAMOUS Groucho Marx quote!!!

"Why so many kids?"
"We like kids."
"Well, I like my cigar, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while!"

Unfortunately, this exchange probably never happened: http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/grouchocigar.asp

[Arugula Latte]

169. That woman's vagina is going to explode.

:scared:

[DainBramaged]

170. To do that to a family I will never understand

Dividing your "love" among 16 is impossible and unfair. This is like an eating disorder, more like a birthing disorder.:eyes:

[bigwillq]

171. This pisses me off.

Those poor children.

I think the parents are being very selfish.

[hedgehog]

174. I would take the criticisms on this thread more seriously if

people didn't seem to object to their choice of hair and clothing styles as well as food choices at least as much as number of children and child rearing practices.

HAving a large family may not be for you. You may disapprove of having older kids take on family chores or think the older kids have too many responsibilities. What about kids who spend all their time playing video games except for unsupervised Web browsing? What about kids who come home to an empty house every day so they are raising themselves to a large degree (and I realize that is an economic necessity most of the time when it happens. My kids had to do that for a year when I was working second shift and I hated it!)There are a lot more of kids in those situations today, yet somehow people never get excited about them.

[Deja Q]

177. People who question their childbreeding practices are getting flamed...

Maybe that's why it's more fun to gripe about the clothes... Nobody's daring (or dumb?) enough to say "That's irresponsible, especially in the world in and why aren't people making better choices?"

I dunno what to say. So I'll say how I feel at any given moment. Somebody will always pull the "And who are you to decide" crap, even if I am smart enough to have not indiscriminately bred... :shrug:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

193. Obviously these folks have sort sort of obsession going on

but I guess there's no law against it, just like there is no law against having three kids by the time you are 16 (I teach girls in that position).

But the fact that it is legal doesn't mean it is a good idea.

On the other hand, I wouldn't want to live in a place where it was illegal.

[Katherine Brengle]

184. I don't think anyone would disagree with you there --

but food choices and creepy clothes and everything are part of the bigger picture here. They aren't just a big family -- this couple truly believes that God has directed them to reproduce as much as they can until, I guess, it kills this woman. Her older daughters are not just "taking on extra chores" but raising their younger siblings. The food is unhealthy bc when you have to feed 18 people (soon to be 19), healthy good quality food gets pretty out of reach pretty fast. The clothes are just another part of their whacko fundie-ism, so fair game if not the #1 important thing here.

I'd be all for a large family (though maybe not quite this large) if the parents were doing the vast majority of the work, spending quality time with each individual child, letting the children experience life, taking care of their children's health and wellness, and not raising their daughters to be obedient little breeder-slaves, which is the message they're getting in their current situation.

[misanthrope]

178. That's repulsive**nm

**

[Strawman]

183. The photo looks like a Bizzare Records album cover

Is that mean to say?

Meh. Too fucking bad. I feel pissy.

Hey, Little House! Holly Hobbie just called and she wants her clothes back!

[Raine]

187. I've seen them on TLC

they give me the creeps. x(

[Caoimhe]

190. My god

Soon she will have to wear a sling to hold her cervix up. I just find this very, very disgusting in this day and age. I'm sure they get plenty of donations from fundies who practically worship them. My mom thinks they are "such a neat" family. I call it complete dysfunction and child abuse. I wonder how many WASP fundies would be all excited about a black or hispanic family having 17 kids? What if they were on welfare? Methinks they wouldn't be so adoring.