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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 05:54 PM
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Doo doo doo, looking out my back door, part two.
http://www.arizona.edu/home/tucson-history.php

Tucson is one of the oldest continuously inhabited areas in America with
rcheological discoveries dating back to 800 BC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucson

Tucson was probably first visited by Paleo-Indians, known to have been in
southern Arizona by about 12,000 years ago. Recent archaeological excavations
near the Santa Cruz River have located a village site dating back 4,000 years ago.
The floodplain of the Santa Cruz River was extensively farmed by people during the
Early Agricultural period, circa 1200 B.C. to A.D. 150. These people constructed
irrigation canals and grew corn, beans, and other crops while gathering wild plants
and hunting animals. The Early Ceramic period occupation of Tucson saw the first
extensive use of pottery vessels for cooking and storage. The groups designated by
archaeologists as the Hohokam lived in the area from A.D. 600-1450 and are known
for their red-on-brown pottery.

Close to home is a dig that has uncovered a Hohokam site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohokam


Please take a short stroll with me. From my back door.


Here's over the fence.


Across the street


A tree and asphalt


Pave paradise.





A look back at my apartment


The fence


Some scientific markings


A foundation?


Could be.


A cistern?


Hmm.












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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:03 PM
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1. they took all the trees, and put 'em in a tree museum
and they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em

L., I like the way you observe things.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:13 PM
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2. Ptree museum


:hug:

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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:13 PM
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3. Nice pictures...
...:hi: Ptah!
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:43 AM
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8. Thanks, Toledo
:hi: :hug:

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UofAWildcatJoanne Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:23 PM
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4. I live in Tucson, also!!!
I never knew that Tucson is one of the oldest continuously inhabited areas in America with
archeological discoveries dating back to 800 BC! That's neat! But I don't see many archeological digs going on near my area (Foothills area)...
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:46 AM
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9. I'm continually surprised what is found around here.
Old graves keep public from new court site
GARRY DUFFY
Tucson Citizen

Prying eyes won't be welcome for at least a year at the downtown
site of a future joint Justice Court/City Court complex on Stone Avenue.

Certainly not when archaeologists are uncovering graves in the former
city cemetery where the new court complex will sit..

Out of respect for the deceased and their relatives who may still live
in the Old Pueblo, access to the 4.1-acre site will be restricted to
official business until after workers exhume the bodies, store them,
learn their identities and rebury them in another cemetery.

American Indian remains will be given to Tohono O'odham officials
for appropriate disposition.



http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/31388.php
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:32 PM
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5. Just got home from Illinois...
Amazing.

Methinks Leonard Peltier had some in-depth comments about archeology that could turn a physical anthropologist around. It did in my case.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:06 PM
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6. Am not surprised re: Hohokam site
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 11:07 PM by Whoa_Nelly
Bet there's so much more under so much of Tucson!
Definitely something new to check out next time am Tucson way! :hi:

Hi Cutie Patootie Ptah! :loveya:
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:50 AM
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10. Hi sweetheart.
This is right next door to me.

Meanwhile, downtown:

Old graves keep public from new court site
GARRY DUFFY
Tucson Citizen

Prying eyes won't be welcome for at least a year at the downtown site of a future joint Justice Court/City Court complex on Stone Avenue.

Certainly not when archaeologists are uncovering graves in the former city cemetery where the new court complex will sit..

Out of respect for the deceased and their relatives who may still live in the Old Pueblo, access to the 4.1-acre site will be restricted to official business until after workers exhume the bodies, store them, learn their identities and rebury them in another cemetery.

American Indian remains will be given to Tohono O'odham officials for appropriate disposition.

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/31388.php

:hi: :pals: :loveya:
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:12 PM
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7. Nice site pics, Ptah!
You have a nice little habitaion site next door! I would guess the smaller round holes are excavated postmolds (soil stains left by posts when they decayed), and the larger semi-circular one is a partially excavated pit feature of some kind, most likely for storage of food supplies. The straight lines and right angles are all just the remains of the archaeologists testing and excavation grid and wouldn't represent any original structure - that would be the postmolds. Were you able to observe or visit the site while it was being dug. Looks very recent, possibly on a hiatus while they interpret their data so far.

I'm always impressed by those who actually think about the land they inhabit and its story. Good work!
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:52 AM
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11. They were getting ready to leave when I talked with them.
They'll be back in the morning to continue their work.
I'm going to get a tour.

:hi:

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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 02:38 AM
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12. Cool questions for archaeologists
Try some of these during your tour (with some anticipated responses):

Do you own a fedora?
Did you go to college to learn how to
be a ditch digger? (Yes)
Does your family know you dress like this?
Are you paid to do this? (Poorly)
Did the indians live in these square holes? (My favorite!)
Have you found any gold today?
Have you found any Leaverite?
Have you found anything interesting?
Do you get to keep what you find? (No)
Do you know there is a better site over there? (Yes)
Did you want to be an archaeologist
when you grew up? (Who doesn't?)
Is this the coolest profession? (Yes)

They never get old!

And never, ever, feed the archaeologists!


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