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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:06 AM
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Hey there, Lounge friends. Bad news.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=20423

It's been real and fun and real fun. I'll miss you. You know where to reach me.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:15 AM
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1. Will
Jesus H., man, you're the best goddamn person on this site. The whole lot of "them" are worthless, but your posts are absolute gold. PM me so I'll know how to reach you, man.

Yours is the independent voice on this site, which, much to many a DUers dismay, is becoming increasingly hostile to criticism and inquiry in regards to candidates. It will be sorely missed.

I hope this is only a temporary hiatus.

Neil
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:15 AM
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2. We'll miss you, Will.

And let me be the first (at least here in the Lounge) to say that this situation totally blows! To attempt to fuck with your income because they disagree with some of your opinions is lower than low--particularly when the "fucker" in question comes from a Web forum that is supposed to be for progessives!

Whoever did this to you, Will, "douche bag" is too nice a term to describe them. It's assholes like that who make people anti-liberal! :grr: :nuke:
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:18 AM
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3. You know Will
As a Dean supporter, I have read many of your posts, and although I know you are a Kerry man, but we share the same politics and belief, and I am ashamed of whoever silenced you, but I can assure you that it was not me, because I still have respect for you. As a matter of fact, I was at the bookstore today, and I was looking for either one of your books so I can buy on my flight home. I guess tomorrow will have to be another day to look for that book, and I'm hoping Strand's will have a copy. Virgin Megastore certainly didn't have it.

Good luck and godspeed. Hopefully by the time the primaries are over or at least the nominee is a lock, you'll be back and posting praises of the new nominee, whoever that may be.

Hawkeye-X
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:21 AM
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5. So sad
Will, I've only been posting for a little while, but I've been lurking for a long time. Losing your voice really diminishes this place. I'm sad to see you go.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:21 AM
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4. BULLSHIT WILL!!! Do NOT let another have ANY control over your life
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 01:22 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
Tell Marc to tell you how much that person contributes...we will make up the difference and unless that PERSON is in charge of a major organization, Marc should tell them to shove their donation up their fucking tyrant ass!

What kind of organization would seek to silence it's writers over a couple bucks...tell us how much we need to come up with and we'll make it up.

Fuck the asshole who had the fucking nerve to silence you simply because they are such a weak fuck they didn't have the guts to rebut you.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:25 AM
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11. Excellent idea, NSMA.
As usual! :toast: :loveya:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:48 AM
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15. Seriously, -
why do we need Will Pitt to ask Marc to tell him how much that donor would withhold? Why can't we write him and ask him ourselves, and offer a more attractive amount?

Unless this donor is totally underwriting Truthout, I feel confident we can put together a team of contributors who've no taste for economic bullying, threats and censorship.

I can't decide which is more reprehensible: that an individual amoung us could be this controlling and repressive, or that TruthOut could be in such straights as to have to give a such an individual voice.

I'm not blowing air, I know some people who know some people. Help me find Marc's e-mail address. I'm already composing mail.

Dammit, Will. Get your lips back here and fight. Don't make me kick your ass.


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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:53 AM
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16. Hold off
until I talk with him. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this, but let me deal with it before it gets too complicated.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:56 AM
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17. Will, report her to Skinner.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 02:01 AM by BurtWorm
It's against DU rules to take arguments outside into the "real world." See IndianaGreen's post in your thread in GD2004P.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=20423&mesg_id=20526&page=

According to DU rules:

Do not post messages that advocate harm or death to anyone, threaten the livelihood of anyone, or otherwise harass anyone. Do not send email, snail mail, phone, fax, or other messages to anyone if your intent is to threaten or harass, and do not encourage others to do the same. Do not take your disagreements off the message board and into the "real world," and do not do anything to try to harm or harass any member of this message board in the "real world."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html#civility
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:57 AM
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18. Okay, - but I'm still writing.
I'm fierce when I'm peeved.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:22 AM
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6. That sucks
I'm a Dean supporter but that really was out of line. There was no call for whoever to do that. Jeeze I'll be so glad when this nomination process is over.

A suggestion if you are concerned for your seperation of personal and professional. Maybe you could come back with some kind of name obvious to us but not to the outside world? Something clever like WillP.

Anyway, will understand if you don;t want to continue posting, but I hope you'll reconsider and stick around DU.



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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:22 AM
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7. Youre gone?
Sigh
Dude, thats just sad, you were expressing your opinion, you werent on no vendetta as far as I was concerned. Oh well good luck with whatever you plan to do. As I said I do plan to visit Boston, and it would be a delight to meet you. Sorry this had to happen.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:23 AM
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8. This is dreadful news, Will
You will be missed. You are one of the reasons I came to DU.

If you come around our way again, let's all get together once more at Tommy's Joynt in San Francisco.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:23 AM
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9. Will, don't go!
Don't let one bad Deanie deprive us of you! :cry:

At least hang in the lounge. :toast:

What can we do (Dean people and DUers in general) to make you change your mind?
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:25 AM
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10. How very petty and vindictive
I'm very sorry some lowly creature has done this to you. Tell your boss I'll donate if he'll disregard the pathetic little nitwit. What a lowlife.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:28 AM
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12. Here we go. The reason we (dems) will lose next year...
We have to destroy ourselves at the amusement of the GOP every time. I am so sick of it all.
And, this is the reason I have had to change my username as well. You cannot trust people. They will use what they can how they think it will work.

And the worst thing is:

Most of the time it does work. Case in point.


See ya all in GITMO, save me a cot, my back is not so good to sleep on rocks anymore.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:42 AM
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13. Don't you go!
Your boss knows you better and has better sense than to think you would wage a vendetta against Dean, here or anywhere. However, PM me (and, I'm betting, everybody else on this thread) with an email address and we can reassure him/her that the rogue Dean supporter was just talking out of an orifice.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:45 AM
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14. someone complained
about what you said and isn`t going to contrib. to truthout. ok that`s pretty much blackmail. for one thing indianagreen is right,second- a boss that would cave to this isn`t worth any respect what so ever and certainly isn`t the place where anyone should work. ya can`t work for someone who would throw you under the bus. just my opinion after working for alot of different foremans in my life...
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:09 AM
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19. It's also a hell of a good COINTELPRO trick, too...
Though I'm not saying it couldn't have been a wacked/no-forest-for-the-trees Deanie (and I say this as someone currently supporting Dean).

But if this one gambit succeeds in stopping you from posting on DU, Will, getting people pissed at Truthout *and* Dean -- well, isn't that just handing the other side a little undeserved "trifecta" of their own?

Or is this all really just "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" redux, as far as Dems doing themselves in -- as others on this thread have suggested...

Hang tough Will, and don't wander too far away...
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:10 AM
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20. Good luck, sir. Come back anytime!!
:toast:
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:11 AM
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21. This is a duplicate
You can discuss at the link provided in the original message.
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