If the "institution of marriage" is so fucking sacred,

[RevCheesehead]

how long until asshole decides to outlaw divorce, and outlaw heteros living together unless they're married?

God, this asshole makes me sick, sick, sick.
And them damned announcers on TV, saying he represents the views of evangelicals. Apparently, evangelicals are worried about immigration, too.

Oh, and one more thing: I am so fucking sick of hearing the words "activist judges." How about a fucking activist president? One who decides he doesn't have to follow laws which are inconvenient to him?

I am seething with rage over this asshole, and his "Divider" agenda.

[Bunny]

1. Preach it, Rev!!!

:thumbsup:

I agree with you completely.

[azmouse]

2. RWers don't mind 'activist judges' when

those judges are selecting the pResident or interfering in what should be a family's private grief over a health care issue in Florida.

[auntAgonist]

3. in total agreement Rev.

:hug: :loveya:

aA
kesha

[miss_american_pie]

4. Of course

you know full well they're not about to suggest stoning for adulterers.

:hug:

[mikeytherat]

5. Testify!

Can I get an Amen?

mikey_the_rat

[ThomCat]

6. Amen, Rev.

[realisticphish]

7. Hey!

You! Stop trying to make laws conform to the Constitution! That's activism!

[LaraMN]

8. Take a deep breath and remember; he's digging his own grave.

And hopefully that of all the Repubs that run for office, for a looong time!
:mad: :hug:

[Deep13]

11. I don't think so.

Whatever reason there is to oppose gay marriage bans or promote gay marriage, this issue resonates with the rank and file, especially in the fly-over states. In Ohio roughly 1/2 of the Kerry voters also voted for the gay marriage ban.

[LaraMN]

23. Most disgusting.

I'd love to say, "Thank goodness I'm in Minnesota," but we've got a gay-marriage ban issue percolating here, too. I will never understand why so many people care so freaking much about how other people live their own lives, when it is truly of no consequence to anyone but those directly involved. If people would just loosen the hell up about sexual issues in general, we could turn our attention to the issues that actually warrant some form of action.

[Deep13]

30. You're right factually and rationally, BUT...

...like all hot-button issues, this is about gut reaction, not reason. People have cultural assumptions and one of those is that the main purpose of marriage is procreation. Another is that rugrats need two parents of opposite gender. Even people who generally support gay rights in workplace discrimination or partner benefits are often offended by gay marriage because it implicitly means that their world view is not as absolutely correct as they thought. It is the same as people who are generally for racial equality who are offended by interracial marriage. Somehow it interfers with an assumed divine plan. In particular, it challenges the strong-father-figure family and societal model that conservatives in particular seem to favor. I'm not agreeing with this view, mind you, only explaining how it comes about.

[LaraMN]

42. I'm sure you're right.

I just don't understand where the fear comes from that causes people to be so inflexible in their thinking. I wasn't raised in a home where I was indoctrinated with the kind of religious beliefs or the black-and-white thinking patterns so many conservatives have; so it's difficult for me to empathize with their mindset. I often have gut reactions to things as well, but given a bit of time to consider a situation, I generally develop a more balanced perspective. Sometimes I wonder if these people are beyond help.

[Deep13]

9. "outlaw heteros living together unless they're married"

Some states do outlaw that. Here in Ohio, the gay marriage ban Const. amendment outlaws legal recognition of any relationship that approximates marriage.

[havocmom]

10. A-friggin-MEN!

Testify against their hypocrisy!

[Oeditpus Rex]

12. You think it's ethical

to post transcripts of your sermons here?

:rofl:

:hug: :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

14. If only....

Actually, I'm revving up for Annual Conference. Statewide meeting of all United Methodist Clergy & laity reps. Something tells me this may be an issue brought before us. Fortunately, our conference is rather liberal.

Thanks for the :hug: I needed that. :loveya:

[Oeditpus Rex]

18. Somethin' tells me

it ain't that fuckin' liberal. :rofl:

But, oh, what fun you could have pushin' the envelope. :evilgrin:

[RevCheesehead]

20. Hmmm....

Do you offer a course? "Envelope Pushing 101" or somethin' like that?

[Oeditpus Rex]

25. I don't teach any frosh courses

I go straight to the graduate curriculum: "Occupational Suicide 1A."

[RevCheesehead]

28. You know that I'm already in advanced studies, don't ya?

[Oeditpus Rex]

31. I wasn't sure

But your Phi Beta Lib'rul key was a clue.

[RevCheesehead]

34. Here I thought it was my precocious nature.

But that key is on a necklace that's long enough for it to rest between the girls.
Hey! How'd you notice that? :spank:

[Oeditpus Rex]

36. It was the preferable alternative

to looking for strange women laying in moldy ponds.

[RevCheesehead]

39. That's understandable.

And you certainly should know by now that you won't find any woman stranger than me. :D

[Oeditpus Rex]

43. Wanna bet?

Every woman does something to invite a guy's eyes to her cleavage, then gets mad when they go there. Nothin' strange about that. :eyes:



'Course, the "fucks" and the "assholes" from the pulpit are kinda different. :thumbsup:

[RevCheesehead]

45. Really?

Maybe I know more preachers than you do; but trust me. Some of them are assholes, and some of them are the dumbest fucks you'll ever meet.

[no name no slogan]

54. hooo boy

One of my best friend's dad is a minister/administrator in the UMC. Just hearing his war stories is enough to make me get the heebie-jeebies.

Best of luck with the conference.

[RevCheesehead]

55. Thanks.

Like I said, this is a fairly liberal conference. But it was hell when I was in the Western NC Conference.

[Fox Mulder]

13. Amen!

:applause: :yourock:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

15. You have said it perfectly, my dear Rev!

AMEN to all of it!

:yourock:

[MissMillie]

16. I say call them on it

Because I doubt that this is about protecting marriage. This is about discrimination, pure and simple. If they wanted to really protect marriage, they would pass all those things, but they'll NEVER pass all those things, because most of them would be guilty of a crime if they DID try to pass those things.

[RevCheesehead]

22. You're right.

If they wanna get all biblical and legalistic, then they have to:

* kill all adulterers
* forbid divorce... or at the very least, forbid remarriage after divorce, provided the ex is still alive.
* remove "annulment" as an abomination (really, saying a marriage "never existed?" Like they were in a time-warp?)
* refer to all children born out of wedlock as "bastards."

[anarch]

33. uhhh...let's not give them any ideas

I wouldn't put anything past these people.

[RevCheesehead]

35. Bring back the Stocks!

And when we use a scarlet letter A, forget sewing. We'll use branding!

Salem was just misunderstood. They were true patriots!

[Scruffbunny]

17. Such language!

I am agog! No, TWO gogs!

Hehe. :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

19. Scruffy!!

Are you home now??

Oh, and gogs usually come in pairs. That's why they're called goggles.

[Scruffbunny]

21. Not home.

Not yet, but in a month or so.

Aaaah...it all makes sense now! The gogs are conspiring against us! (they're getting married, too, ya know.)

[Call Me Wesley]

24. Yes,

why aren't you married yet? Hmm?

[RevCheesehead]

26. Because Heidi got you first?

Hi, Sugar Plum! :hug:

[Call Me Wesley]

27. Oh my. *blushing*

But you really don't want to be married to an 'infidel.'

:hug:

[RevCheesehead]

29. OK, then....

I'll let you arrange my marriage.
Whom will you choose?

[Call Me Wesley]

37. You mean like: Match made in heaven?

Easy:

[RevCheesehead]

40. :huge sigh:

You have won me over for life. :loveya:

(Will Keith be calling me, or do you have his #?)

[Call Me Wesley]

41. Hey!

Sure I let you have my competitors phone number. I'm compassionate, but not this compassionate! :rofl: I'll find out!

:loveya:

[wildhorses]

32. Amen sister

preach it to the rooftops!!!
and the balcony
and the choir

[NewWaveChick1981]

38. You said it all, Rev!

There's an asshole idiot named Vernon Robinson running for NC state office in the neighboring district, and his ads are homophobic and insane. He claims his opponent, incumbent Brad Miller, is gay, but Brad is not. Robinson spouts off about Miller being gay while playing mariachi music in the background. I'm sure he'll get a lot of mileage out of W's inane statements. :grr:

[libnnc]

44. Love you, Rev

All to pieces!! :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[ZombieNixon]

46. Preach it, Reverend!

:D

:yourock:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

47. They get too many divorces to outlaw divorce.

[WCGreen]

48. I love you Rev......

You are so passionate....

[RevCheesehead]

51. I dunno about that....

but I am really pissed right now.

(and thanx, sweetie! :*)

[Dangerously Amused]

49. Good Lord but I love to see your powerful fiery spirit

...rise up in the name of justice!


Go it, Rev!


:applause:


:patriot:

[RevCheesehead]

50. It's in moments like this, I can understand Jesus better.

And how he got so pissed off, he turned over the money-changer's tables in the Temple.

Some things ARE worth getting angry about - and this is one of them.

[Deja Q]

52. Let them - Britney Spears is a prime example of a far worse problem.

[RevCheesehead]

53. Did you know that Britney's name is an anagram?

Britney Spears = Presbyterian. :scared:

[jane_pippin]

56. You're fantastic

I hope you know that.

:yourock:

I find it particularly insulting that he is encouraging people to be civil/polite/respectful to each other over the issue. Oh yeah. That's real noble of you.

Now David, Jim, I know you two have been together--what is it, 30 some years? (Heckuva job there fellas, byduhway. Heh heh heh. I appreciate that.) But see, here's the thing, see: Marriage is between A Man and A Woman. See. And we need to protect it. We need tuh...tuh...strenghen families, see. We need to folluh the Constitution and stand up to Acktivist Judges who are trying to leg-is-late from the bench. I'm sure you boys understand."

Fucking hypocritical, disingenuous, lying, hollow, shallow, selfish fuck.

[LostinVA]

57. Hell has no fury like female Wesleyite clergy!

You go, girl!

[u4ic]

58. Rev for president!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Strong Atheist]

59. K&R. nt.

[khashka]

60. Go for it Rev!

Jesus didn't have a problem except for the hypocritical and the self-righteous, really. And people like this asshole give Christianity a bad name - which hurts people who did get Christ's message of love.

Rock on, Rev!

Khash.

[SeattleGirl]

61. Sing it, sistah!

That's exactly how I feel! This country is going to hell in a handbasket, and Bush is driving the bus right over the cliff. And what's worse, the people who are supposed to represent us don't seem to give a shit.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Orsino]

62. This is not about outlawing divorce...

...or otherwise barring rich old men from trading in their trophy wives. That's not going to happen.

It's about our "representatives" running out the clock on their epic failure to govern. They are not trying to legislate--they are doing their best to avoid such aberrant behavior--they are only hoping to galvanize the ignorant, thereby minimizing the rebuke they face in November.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

63. If it's sacred

it has no place in government, unless we disregard separation of Church and State.