Would you get in a 2seater prop-driven aircraft with Bush at the controls

[DS1]

Poll question: Would you get in a 2seater prop-driven aircraft with Bush at the controls

Remember, he's not suicidal, and for the first time in your life you and the President have the same best interests and goals- it's not like he's going to try and kill just one of you.

[trotsky]

1. Sure, why not?

Only planes with Bush enemies in them go down unexpectedly.

[DS1]

3. Yes

but they have been known to bite off more than they can chew - so to speak

MIHOP 2?

[fertilizeonarbusto]

2. I have all the faith in the world in his instinct of

self-preservation. in this case is his across-the-board incompetence that would worry me.

[underpants]

4. Given the fairly recent family history of flying and passengers/crew

I'll pass thanks.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Sure.

But that's only because I know how to fly one, and it would be kind of fun to watch him try to just get it started, let alone fly it. On the other hand, those things are pretty small, and the idea of being shoulder-to-shoulder with that guy in a vehicle smaller than a Geo Metro is just .. eww. I bet he smells funny.

[Lisa]

20. I'll get you a set of noseplugs!

And a fast-acting tranquilizer dart so you can subdue him and take control of the plane if he starts messing around.

[MichiganVote]

6. Sure, no mo' mandate, no mo' goin' anywhere anyway

[leftofthedial]

7. how many parachutes?

[DS1]

8. None

just you, Bush, a runway, and a full tank of gas.

You don't even have to be going anywhere, you could just go flying for a bit and land where you started.

[leftofthedial]

22. if there was ONE parachute, I'd do it for sure

I guess I could take on for the team and do it without a 'chute.

[Left Is Write]

9. Not only no, but HELL NO.

But then again, I wouldn't get into that aircraft with anyone.

Flying does not make me happy. Tiny plane make me even less happy.

[DS1]

10. Tiny planes are FUN

:bounce:

Especially when you're cruising over a lake with the wingtips below the treeline

*zooooom*

[Left Is Write]

11. Fun for some people. Not fun for those with a fear of flying.

I'm getting palpitations and the start of an anxiety attack just thinking about it.

[Ready4Change]

19. Flying small planes can be quite serene.

Think about it.

Many small planes don't fly much faster than a car.

Yet, in a car, you are mere feet away from stationary objects at most times, often surrounded by unknown people of unknown talents in their own cars. Statistically, some of them may be inebriated or on drugs, and some certainly are driving distracted by cell phones or dealing with passengers, etc. And you are all navigating solo, with no outside assistance at all.

In comparison, in a small plane, there is nothing to hit for thousands of feet around. Maybe MILES around. Contrary to rumours, pilots are almost never under the influence, and usually deeply involved with the flying process. You are all also connected by a communications web with other pilots and ground controllers, all working to ease what few conflicts there might be.

Really, in cruise, flying can be serene. Even boring. It can also be inspiring, or, if you're in the mood for it, invigorating.

Once I developed the ability to take off and land securely, I;ve alwasy felt safer in the air than while in a car on public highways.

[Left Is Write]

24. You are trying to apply rational thought and logic to a phobia.

Phobias are not logical or rational.

I don't WANT to be afraid of flying, but it is what it is. I will fly if I have to, but that's about it. I'm not about to seek it out for recreational purposes.

[Ready4Change]

28. Yah, sorry.

I'm highly rational about lots of stuff, and personally love flying.

Oddly, though I'm a pilot, I have issues with heights. Ladders and stuff bother me. I can use them ok, but a bit nervously. I hear this is fairly common for pilots.

But, getting in a small plane with myself or someone else I trust at the controls? Heaven.

[hobbit709]

12. I wouldn't trust

his abilities in a two-seater outhouse.

[Ready4Change]

13. I'm a Private Pilot. No.

In my opinion, there are two types of confident pilots. Those who have carefully prepared for their flights, and those who assume the preparations have been done for them.

Bush appears to be the latter type, and I won't fly with them at the controls.

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. Any one of us would be safer in a small plane WITH Bush than without him

Assuming that you are a pilot of course. I have yet to see any evidence that he's ever actually flown a plane.

But we all know how many enemies of the Bush Criminal Empire (and even some supposed friends) have died in small plane crashes. Having the Idiot in the plane with you is great insurance.

[MamaBear]

15. Only if I had decided that today was a good day to die.

;)

[NoPasaran]

16. You bet!

Mr President, do you like gladiator movies?

[Double T]

17. Sure, As Long As I Could Communicate Over The Two-Way Radio....

.... to Red Baron Bush what I really think of him and his policies and I had an ejection seat with a parachute

[Lisa]

18. based on his previous actions in the air, no

I did fly around quite a bit in small planes, when I was doing research up north -- so I'm not nervous about flying in general, or little planes in particular. George W. comes across as a goof-off, who cuts corners and seems to freeze up in crisis situations -- but has a high opinion of himself regardless. Not a great combination, and my co-workers (a scuba instructor and a firefighter, who have a big thing about trust) say they don't want to fly with him either!

My worry is not that he would try to kill me -- but rather, through arrogance and incompetence, he would kill both of us by accident.


http://www.seanet.com/~johnco/bush102.htm


"The day of the ride, Bush asked his sixteen-year-old brother, Marvin, to come along. One of the PULL kids started popping off, making noise, once they were up in the air. Bush stalled the engine for a second, and the passengers, scared to death, grew quiet." Minutaglio, Bill. First Son, George W. Bush and the Bush Family Dynasty, Random House, NY, 1999 Pg. 151,

"After more seemingly endless moments, he somehow got control of the plane again. He aimed the aircraft down, and the landing was as shaky and brutal as the takeoff. The plane careened off the runway and onto the desert. Evans sighed in relief. Then an unbelieving Evans braced himself as Bush suddenly and unexpectedly spun the plane and bounced back along the runway. Evans stared at Bush. He could see the fear and panic flooding his face."
Minutaglio pg 175&176

p.s. actually these are two different incidents -- Bush doesn't seem to have learned about horsing around in the plane, the first time.

[DS1]

23. That doesn't surprise me in the slightest

He probably did ONE stall recovery in AF flight school, and so many years thought he could do it again after not flying props for a while, and with a bunch more people inside. Weight is highly important for these things, unlike the jet's we're assuming he was used to.

I did a lot of stalls with my friend when we went up, snap-spins or something named similar, it was a blast - but only because I knew he could fly.

He let me land. We almost crashed. :D

[Lisa]

26. also the fact that he didn't bother checking out the plane

Even when he knew he'd be responsible for a friend's life.

He just assumed that he could fly it, since a) he'd flown a prop plane in training, and b) he had qualified as a jet pilot, and figured that this would actually be way easier. (My friends who fly prop planes and gliders say that he must have really swaggered around and lorded it over everyone else when he was in the TANG ...)

I haven't owned a car for years, and when I do use a vehicle, I take it off to a quiet place and make sure I know where all the controls are -- headlights, windshield wipers, etc. -- especially if I'm going to be driving someone else. Call me paranoid, but I'd rather be stuck with that than mess up the way Dubya did!

p.s. Word is that George W. is so dangerous at the helm of a sailboat that his own sister doesn't want to go out with him -- says Neil has more control of the boat. It looks like Bush's careless driving habits (running into things when he's distracted, trying to operate that Segway one-handed, and driving impaired on more than one occasion with his younger siblings in the car) also seem to apply to other forms of transportation. Not that he necessarily drank while flying or sailing, but his belief that he could handle things no matter what seems to diverge from the reality ...

[Kingshakabobo]

21. As long as there is an ejection seat....

and HIS parachute is packed with dirty laundry.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

25. Sure, on the following preconditions:

1) I was recently diagnosed with an incurable disease; and

2) I have a $100,000,000 life insurance that doesn't cover death by disease.

[Zuni]

27. Yeah, as long as he has been re-trained as a pilot

I like small planes. I would like to ask him some questions when we are up there, with no one to feed him the answers either

[jmowreader]

29. The question:

Would he BECOME suicidal after one of us talked to him for a half-tank of gas or so?

[baldguy]

30. I'd want to see urine test & breathalyzer results first.