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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:57 AM
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"Some critics think 'Revenge of the Sith' is Lucas' best yet..."
For all of you who have seen it, what do you think of this?

I know you are all people very capable of critical thinking. That's just a very tall order that I saw on AOL just now. I'm not asking whether or not you necessarily agree with the assessment, but is it at least fair?

It is that good?
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 03:08 AM
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1. Just came back from seeing it

It's not awful, but it's pretty uneven.

Most of the dialogue is flat. Painfully flat. As in "we spent all our budget on CGI lizards so we couldn't afford to hire real actors" flat.

But there are exceptions.

The scenes with Palpatine are great, and the guy who plays Obi Wan Kenobi actually pulls it off quite well. As a younger version of the original, he makes it work.

As expected, there's WAY too much special effects (uselessly so). No more needs be said on that, really, because anyone who doesn't expect this really hasn't been paying attention.

The high points are the scenes involving Palpatine and Anakin/Vader. When it gets away from the fx-fest and goes back to characters and story, it's still got something going for it.

But overall, I'd only see it as a matinee. And I'd bring a book.


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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 03:10 AM
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2. It sounds like it's worth seeing just for a couple/few scenes.
I actually like some movies like that- I know what you mean.

Sometimes it's worth sitting through a bunch of garbage to get to something really intense. Would you describe it like that?
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:08 AM
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3. Oh... Its worth seeing
Palpatine does a great job, as does Obi Wan.

Anakin actually is very hit or miss... In some places you can really buy into it, in others its flat or even corny. Natlie Portman was wasted as an actress in the film :(.

The SFX and fights are phenomenal, and for a two hour movie it moves quickly. I admit I'm a star wars geek, but this film was definately better than I & II, and is worth seeing at the theater for the big screen effect.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:15 AM
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4. As a visual experience its good, although
part of the problem with having so many special effects is that there isn't much scope for really good camerawork - you know, shots at weird angles that startle you and stuff like that. And a lot of the imagery was really really crude, but then its a Star Wars film. So visually ok to good, but the script was truly aweful. Not quite as bad as the Phantom Menace, but close. If I'd seen this film 10 years ago I would have loved it, as it is I think it was a piss poor way to end an epic, and I was left really wishing Lucas hadn't bothered making the three 'prequels'.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:55 AM
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5. Star Wars fans would never be honest about this movie....
Let's face it the first two sucked really badly and they've all been pinning their hopes on this one. For them to admit that it sucked they would have to admit that they've wasted a good chunk of their lives in slavish devotion to a cinematic charlatan. We all know that's not going to happen, so instead we'll get lots of claptrap about how it's "the best of the prequels". Yeah, that's some high praise right there.

I loved the original movies. When I was 7, 8, 9, and 10 years old or whenever it was they came out. But after the first two prequels and how bad they were you couldn't pay me enough to sit through this one.
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:28 AM
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6. I loved it...
When I go to see Star Wars, I don't expect to see a Robert Altman movie.

I expect special effects, simple dialogue, good vs. evil storyline and great action.

That's what I got, and I was very pleased with it. SW will never win awards for acting or scriptwriting, but this is the kind of movie that is not supposed to do that anyway. This is a pure popcorn popping movie, one that is purely entertainment.

It is not meant to stimulate your brain cells, only to tickle your adrenaline. It's classic matinee-type fare.

Those who are looking for intellectual meaning, great acting and great scripts probably should stay away.

I saw the movie last night and both my husband and I agreed that it was the best of the prequels and, in our opinion, only second to The Empire Strikes Back. We also felt this was the kind of movie where there is so much going on that a second (or third or fourth :) ) viewing is needed (we are seeing it again tomorrow).

We actually thought that Hayden Christensen (Anakin) did a good job, especially compared to Attack of the Clones. Ewan McGregor (Obi-Wan) and Ian McDiarmid (Palpatine) stole the show, with a honorable mention to Yoda, who is 100% CGI and looks phenomenal. I would kill to be able to work at a job where I create special effects.

The cringe-inducing love scenes were very few, short and, frankly, not as cringe-inducing as we were led to believe. Sure, some of the script during the scenes was crappy, but even the initial trilogy's dialogue was not all that good (it seems people have forgotten how many cheesy lines there were in A New Hope, Empire and Return of the Jedi). Natalie Portman's scenes are limited and I really don't think her talents were wasted. It's just that the story was focusing on Anakin's descent to the Dark Side.

It's hard not to feel a bit sympathetic towards the Anakin character as he is being 'seduced' to the Dark Side and how Darth Sidious/Palpatine plays with his emotions, fears and anger.

Despite 2 hrs and 26 minutes in length, I felt the movie went by so fast that I could barely believe it had taken that long (although I love the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I did feel the weight of the 3 hours plus of the movie).

Again, we went in expecting to see action and special effects, not Oscar-winning scripts and acting; that's exactly what we got and, in fact, we were pleasantly surprised that our lofty expectations, shattered with Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, were surpassed greatly with Revenge of the Sith.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:33 AM
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7. NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo!!!
Those who've seen it know what I'm talking about.

It was really, really good in some parts and just awful in a few others.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:36 AM
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8. I saw him inhale, and I knew it was coming.
When I realized what he was about to do, I almost went "Noooooo!" myself.

Other than that, I was completely satisfied.

It bugged the hell out of me that Greivous was coughing until I saw the flesh around his eyes.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:50 AM
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9. co-rect'ah-mundo...
"we're in the atmosphere" well DOI! do'ya think? your ship is freaking falling apart and glowing fucking red by way of re-entry!?!?

why not, "we've entered the atmosphere!" heard where lucas had tom stoppard, of all people, consult on the script = thee most wordy, superfluous writer on 'the seen' methinks from time to time.

and every time i heard sam jackson say, "mas-ter..." i couldn't stop thinking about "foot mas-ter" in pulp fiction :shrug:

fighter craft performing barrel rolls in 0-g? the little homage to frankenstein = whatever. and with all that jedi can-do know-how sitting in one room and they couldn't reckon a ripple in 'the force' when anakin walked in :shrug:

i'm just glad it's over now maybe lucas will release us, grow some grapes on his ranch, do a few high tech something-or-others, pack a shit pile of lunches into his franchise lunch boxes and leave the rest of us alone for awhile.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:59 AM
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10. That Frankenstein shamble was pretty funny too
The only thing is, I wasn't laughing. I was more shocked and angry because so much of the rest of the movie was pretty good and involving, and I can't believe they would spoil it all with that.
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