Anyone else having "fundie" flashbacks with all this red?

[Tesibria]

Ok -- i'm not sure about anyone else -- but I'm having flashbacks here.

I grew up in the sterotypical "red-state, holy roller fundamentalist" home (in blue Pennsylvania -- but our county has always been ... well .... blood red).

So -- I keep seeing these maps with all the red -- and keep flashing back to all the "blood songs" we used to sing.

..there is power in the blood...
..what can wash away my sins, nothing but the blood of Jesus.. oh precious is the flow...
..the blood will never lose its power

... and many more.

Anyone else (a) remember these songs; (b) having flashbacks when you see the red state maps??

Just wondering ....

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[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. No,

but that's because I grew up in a liberal Christian church that realized Jesus was NOT God but the Son of God (I've sinced moved on from that concept as well), a slight but important difference, imho.

But I had fundie relatives. What's funny is what I remember was the anti-Catholic bias they had then (had something to do with Kennedy running for President). Has this really dissopated? Or is it there under the surface?

[Tesibria]

2. No -- it is ABSOLUTELY still there...

... HUGE bias against the Catholics because (allegedly) ...

... they worship idols
... they equate Mary with God
... they refuse to accept the literal Bible.

There are many fundies who consider the Pope an anti-christ figure.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. Same junk I heard as a kid

Once one of my relatives gave my mother anti-Catholic literature. When we left the house, we went to a rest area. Back then, they had outhouses-and my mother firmly let me know that that was where that sort of hate junk should go. My grandmother said that she was glad-she'd hate to have had a wreck and had that garbage found in the car. Both of these ladies were Methodists, btw.

[kitchen girl]

3. God yes...the blood songs...

"Are you washed
in the blood
in the soul-cleansing blood of the lamb?
Are your garments spotless?
Are they white as snow?
Are you washed in the blood of the lamb?"


:puke:


Recently, my husband and I were working on one of my favorite old spirituals, "Poor Wayfaring Stranger". We only knew the first verse, so did a little digging, and sure enough, there was a "blood verse" in there. We're peaceful people. We don't sing about blood.

[Tesibria]

4. ACK!!! you remember TOO!!!

Yes yes yes.....

there are SOOOO many "blood" songs -- it's .. queasymaking...

and we sang 'em all.

I brought a boyfriend home once, and there was a "nondemonational" community service that weekend, so we went with my family.

B/c I grew up with it -- it only phased me a little bit. He walked out of the (open air/tent!) service in the middle, and wandered around. At the end of the service, he could only say "what's with all the blood????"

[Tesibria]

5. and -- just HOW illogical is that song

... lessee -- washing yourself in blood turns you white as snow.

i rest my case ....

[kitchen girl]

8. In the midst of my flashback...

as I was typing those lyrics, I thought the same thing. Um, no...my garments aren't spotless...they're all rust colored from all that damn lamb blood... :crazy:

[Tesibria]

13. :::giggle::::

yeah ... too ... funny (in a sick sorta way!)

[bloodyjack]

10. I believe that is called a 'paradox'

Maybe it's my non-Christian upbringing talking here, but those are nice verses.

Perhaps if I had been raised a fundie Christian whooptydoo, I mightn't be able to appreciate them.

[Tesibria]

6. There is a fountain...

There is a fountain filled with blood drawn from Emmanuel’s veins;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.
Lose all their guilty stains, lose all their guilty stains;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.

=== really ! i still can't believe we sang these songs ... as young children. this explains why I cannot stand "slasher"/horror movies to this day. All that blood ... traumatized me, I'm sure of it. (Yes, I pass out at the sight of blood ... )

[kitchen girl]

9. Yup, me too.

And I think you remembered the goriest one of them all.

[Tesibria]

14. riffing from "mahayasmellbad" ...

... this song might explain "cutters" -- those who find a temporary cleansing from releasing the blood.

(i know i KNOW, many do it to FEEL ... but they also talk of experiencing a HUGE relief... the feeling described thru the verses of this particular song...)

[Metatron]

7. Yes, I've been having pentecostal flashbacks.

The "blood songs," the horrible paintings of bloody Jesus on the cross, and the most violent images from the missionaries who would come to speak in the church - basically, gory and graphic stories of torture around the world. That stuff scarred me for life.

[Tesibria]

12. when it truly becomes a scar ..

... we are "ok" ... I count my scars ... as badges now.

Yes, they're there. They're scars. But the fact that they're scars means that they're healed over -- no more bleeding. (no pun intended).

I know exACTLY what you're talking about. We didn't have missionaries telling us about torture -- but from when I was a VERY young child, we were read Fox's Book of Martyers -- and told that that was what would happen to us if we were "Left Behind" in the "Rapture."

I STILL have nightmares about that ...

And -- i STILL believe that it was child abuse -- in every sense of the word.

[riverwalker]

11. even The Passion was a blood fest

Someone once told me the reason the Aztecs turned to human sacrifice and became so bloody was because they started to take their religious teachings literally, instead of symbolically as they were meant to be understood. During the peak of their civilization, the teachings were taken as metaphor, then during the decline, they became dumber, and took it literally. (i.e sacrificing for the community once meant to do good and care for others, then during decline, they thought it meant actually sacrificing people). The tali-born-agains are following the same road.

[Tesibria]

15. yeah ...

... well, more like the Catholics ... the whole transfiguration thing that I'm not yet quite sure I understand...

[Nicole]

17. Nothin but the blood of Jesus!

What can wash away my sins?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.