Who are the best dub artists?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

:shrug:

[dolo amber]

1. Uhhh....Lee Perry...

Duh...:eyes:


:P

[Wat_Tyler]

2. Mad Professor, Augustus Pablo, Lee (obviously), King Tubby.

[Zensea]

3. Lee Perry for starters, but you already know that.

:)

Augustus Pablo

[truthpusher]

4. Lee Perry is the one and only...

...Dub artist that is touched with genius - nothing is brighter and more brilliant than what he produced during the Black Ark years.

[htuttle]

5. Some of my favorite 'dub' albums actually have few lyrics

One dub album that I can listen to over and over again is Aswad's 'A New Chapter of Dub'. It is almost all instrumental, however. The horn line on 'Tuffist' is a major earworm. Another is Black Uhuru's 'Dub Factor'.

Neither are 'dance hall style' -- more like 'reverb heaven'.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

6. I have both and thanks for the earworm! Burning Spear has many dub

albums.

[sundog]

7. I don't know what the f*ck the people at amazon.com are smoking...

but they have Kruder & Dorfmeister and Koop listed under dub :wtf:

anyway, I dig Mad Professor, pretty groovy stuff imo

[chenGOD]

8. The obvious ones already stated....

plus

Alpha & Omega
Aswad (listen to the track "dubbling" and tell me it doesn't tickle your fancy)
Dillinger
Ernest Ranglin
Prince Far I


and special bonus see if you can find anything by Leroy "horsemouth" Wallace (the star of the movie "Rockers"). That's an amazing record...

oh yeah and for modern stuff Pole and The Orb

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

9. You listen to Cedric IM Brooks?

[chenGOD]

11. That's a new one to me...

just did a quick web search and he seems quite interesting...

You might want to check out Ernest Ranglin then, it's an interesting mix of jazz/reggae/"ethnic" music and so on...

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

12. His album "In Search of the Lost Riddim" is in heavy rotation at the CSthT

residence!

[chenGOD]

15. tis a classic..

I love Below the Bassline though, I have to admit, especially the "King Tubby meets the Rockers" track...

I just had a listen to that Cedric Brooks guy, sounds pretty interesting, any album recommendations?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

16. Yeah - this one. His band, Light of Saba, mixes awesome roots reggae with

afro-beat. But its pure reggaelicious stuff.



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009W0MA/qid%3D1097256547/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-2267606-5906321

[chenGOD]

22. Will give it a try...thanks :)

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

38. Please report back once you've heard it!

[JimmyJazz]

10. the Clash

DUde, I had to come back here - I'm getting slammed in a "real" conversation - they're taking me seriously (I hate when that happens) and it's on an issue where I sound a bit conservative!

Seriously - listen to Sandinista - it's got some great Jamaican Dub

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

13. They collabed with Lee Perry

Awesome stuff!

[miss_kitty]

14. They hung and studied with Lee Perry

Black market Clash 10" 33....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm clash dub
"safe European Home" was a song about Jamaica, the trip they took there to seek out the master....

"I went to the place where every white face is an invitation to robbery"

On Edit: spell bad

[JimmyJazz]

18. they got the weed and they got the taxis....

:7

One of my favorites!

[Wat_Tyler]

17. Oh, come off it.

I know you love The Clash, but we're talking about real dub here.

[JimmyJazz]

19. I beg to differ - Sandinista is loaded with genuine Jamaican dub

see above posts - I am not the only one who thinks so (and, I don't count Guns of Brixton - that is a silly song which I believe appears everywhere in order to give Paul some royalties!

[Wat_Tyler]

21. The Clash were a great rock group.

It's admirable they attempted dub, but that doesn't make it any better.

[Zensea]

23. Mikey Dread is all over Sandinista

I've got a Mikey Dread album from around the same time and it's got a very similar sound.

[JimmyJazz]

24. It actually wasn't "their" dub.

"How messed up is it to have the whole thing produced and dubbed-out by the inimitable Mikey Dread, the Jonathan Richman of dub? Way messed up - but brilliant"

http://www.inkblotmagazine.com/rev-archive/Clash_Sandinista.htm

Now say you're sorry :7

(just kidding)

[Wat_Tyler]

25. It's still rock music, that's what I'm getting at.

You can get all the dub musicians you like but you're still just grafting it on to a white-boy rock chassis.

[Zensea]

26. um, reggae is rock music also

Why do you think they call it "rockers"?

& Perry and Marley didn't seem too worried about it, they co-wrote a song called Punky Reggae Party after all.

[Wat_Tyler]

28. Then the term Rock Music is essentially meaningless.

[Zensea]

31. Break down the barricades!!

:)

[Wat_Tyler]

33. Keep those barricades where they are!

Otherwise, literally dozens of music journalists will be unemployed!

[Zensea]

37. & that's a bad thing?

I see you're catching on.

[JimmyJazz]

27. I know that and so did they - please don't beat up on me.

I'm taking a beating on another thread right now, so I need to feel some love right now. I put that up there to be a smart-ass. Now, don't take me so seriously. You'll drive yourself nuts, if you do. :)

[Wat_Tyler]

29. Where's the other thread?

[JimmyJazz]

32. Why? Do you enjoy seeing me get beat up?

GD2004 - An answer to the tort reform question.

Please don't be too hard on me!

[Wat_Tyler]

34. Well, I was going to help you out....

but if you're going to take that attitude, m'dear... :evilgrin:

[JimmyJazz]

36. C'mon in! I'mjust afraid you might

not like what I have to say either! I can't defend myself with Clash lyrics on this one!

[miss_kitty]

39. the Clash is the only band that matters

feel the love 101er:loveya:...

Lee Perry was with them from the beginning, producing on The Clash and credited with writng duties on Police and Thieves...

It boils down to poe-tay-toe, poe-tah-toe and you can stick a fork in me-I think everyone in this discussion has pretty much made up their mind, and it's okay by me what ever y'all think...

[JimmyJazz]

41. I'm feelin' the love - Didn't Joe say

about Police and Thieves - "they had every right to say, 'you're ruinin' the works of Jah mon.'" -

say it with me now - streeTah

[chenGOD]

43. The Clash's cover of "Police and Thieves" is not very good...

in my opinion. Of course, I'm not a particularly big fan of the Clash myself (just sick and tired of hearing them get labeled, "the best punk band ever!!!") but I can appreciate some of their tunes, and can understand that hey had some influence. But that cover of "police and thieves" just irritates me.

Listen to the original by Junior Murvin and be amazed...

*oh yeah and the reason "Scratch" is crdited with writing duties on Police and Thieves is cause he did write it, but not for the Clash...

[JimmyJazz]

44. I don't think they were the best punk band ever. They were

wonderfully political, but in some respects, I think Joe was a beat poet who put his lyrics to some punk riffs.

I never thought Police and Thieves as anything but a cover tune. I find it humorous because on the CD, you can really hear Joe punching out the "t" in streeTah which is not something that is heard on vinyl. I have to laugh every time I hear it. You also hear that hard enunciation on "Career Opportunities."

BTW: Police and Thieves isn't nearly as irritating as "Lost in the Supermarket."

Chavez: Your thread has been officially high jacked.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

45. For Max Romeo

[miss_kitty]

46. But he did produce on that album-so I guess you could say he was there

that is a funny thing to call them, since only the first album was 'punk' per se...i just think they're the best (no adjective here) band ever....

[JimmyJazz]

20. Besides - I think Mickey Dread is waaaaay coool

[Lautremont]

30. Bottlehead

For no one has mentioned Bottlehead. So: Bottlehead.

[chenGOD]

35. And if you want to have some fun with dub...

http://www.infinitewheel.com/dubselector.html

Go give it a try...unfortunately, if you work in a cube farm, your manager might not appreciate this, not that it's lewd, but it's you having fun....

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

40. That is singularly the coolest thing I've ever seen on the internet.

wow

[chenGOD]

42. Yeah it's amazing isn't it?

Stuff like that shows me that there is a use to the internet beyond providing a forum for the inane ramblings of people like me...

:)