Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Question for my gay DU friends?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:05 PM
Original message
Question for my gay DU friends?
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 02:14 PM by Gothic_Sponge
I'm not gay, but i always found it a bit offensive when people refer to themselves as "straight." I know many people that support gay rights that use the term straight. I prefer to say i'm hetero. IMO saying straight implies that gays are somehow crooked and corrupt.

Am i being too PC?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. No, you're not being too PC. I like your thinking.
Thank you. :-)

Hetero works for me (I've been trying to get out of using "straight"). And I have no problems with "homo", since we're doing shorthand. I'd rather be referred to as "homo" than "queer".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. "Homo" Makes Me Laugh
It sounds like a word that a Bible Belt televangelist uses... with a southern drawl.

"Those 'hoe-moes' are threatening our traditional marriage!"

-- Allen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Yeah...but I still prefer it to "queer". I still can't get used to "queer"
Even after "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RodneyCK2 Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #16
24. HAHAHAHA..... You could also say the same thing about
Lesbians. "You 'Les-b'ns' get your alternative family off my lawn."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RodneyCK2 Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:10 PM
Response to Original message
2. Don't get me started...
I try not to put labels on anything, including myself. I feel we are just sexual creatures and boxing us into something means we should obey the rules. Sorry, people, being complex creatures, cross the sexual barriers. I also believe in the Kinsey Scale.

I let some people call me gay or bi, mostly for political reasons. Sometimes it benefits us by separating issues from the dumb-ed down masses, but I prefer it did not occur.

I don't know if I answered your question, just go lightly on trying to define people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
14. Kinsey Scale? What's that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KinkyDem Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Kinsey et al
were sex researchers in the 70's (maybe earlier, my Human Sexuality classes were many years ago).

The Kinsey scale is sort of a bell curve idea that says we as humans fall on the bell curve of sexuality, it ranges from Hetero to homo and all permutations between. So if someone says they fall closer to the hetero side of the kinsey scale they mean their straight and really just not into guys (or gals as the case may be) the opposit is true for the other end of the spectrum.

Personaly I find the Kinsey scale two dimensional, I see sex and sexual preferences (used for lack of a better term) as more a three or four dimensional thing. I would also include Dominant/submissive sexual preference. I think that a scale of monogamy/poly would be appropriate as well.

Do a google search for Kinsey report and or Kinsey scale for more detail.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. You'd make a much more interesting math teacher than the one I had,
KinkyDem. ;-) Imagine trying to graph that...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:12 PM
Response to Original message
3. As long as you don't call yourself "NORMAL," I've got no problem.
Straight used to mean not on drugs. Maybe it still does. But if using the word "straight" was good enough for Maya Angelou, it's good enough for me.

Besides, who ever saw a bumper sticker that said "Hetero But Not Narrow?" ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. I'm with you on this one, Kim.
It doesn't bother me.

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KinkyDem Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #3
18. I'm Normal!
And so are you and so is she and that guy over there and that chick behind the bushes with that other guy and that dude over there on the balcony ... he looks pretty normal too, I bet his boyfriend thinks he's normal.

What's not normal is people who claim to not have sex ... that AIN'T normal.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #3
26. I agree BV... for me, "straight" is like "square" ... boring...
with no interesting angles... :bounce:

Doesn't bother me at all to not be defined as boring. :evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
5. no problem here, either
I don't mind being "bent" :)

the fact is, I doubt anybody gives any literal meaning to the word "straight". As mentioned above, just don't call yourself "normal".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Oh, get bent.
signed,

Mister Normalcy. :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. just musing here...
of all the birds in the world, I think the blue-jay is the biggest, dopiest cacaheaded doodoofaced dumbwaddest stinkybutted crapfaced one. But I'm no ornithologist. :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Yes, they're quite beautiful.
In a dopey cacaheaded doodoofaced dumbwad stinkybutted crapfaced-kind of way.

They're also very passive-aggressive.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. heheh
noodlenoggin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:16 PM
Response to Original message
6. I try not to get hung up on semantics
I never cared for the word "straight" to describe myself, because it alludes that being homosexual is somehow crooked. But for convenience's sake, I use it anyway. "Hetero" just doesn't roll off the tongue. Besides, it's nicer than "breeder!" :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
8. Back in my day (*sigh*)...
...calling someone 'straight' meant something entirely different than it does now and it was quite negative. Curiously, calling African Americans 'Spades' was completely acceptable. But, I understand what you're saying and agree. Also, calling heteros 'breeders' bothers me a good deal. Though, on occasion, I'll see a family with 8 or so children terrorizing the grocery store and it seems all too appropriate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
10. I'm heterosexual...
...but I just don't understand "straights."

They are so SQUARE!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:02 PM
Response to Original message
13. you non-homosexuals
are to refer to yourselves in whatever terms you deem to be appropriate.

In my car, tho...we don't drive straight, we proceed gayly forward.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
15. I don't mind heterosexuals
I just don't want to have to witness their vile affections!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Our daughter married a heterosexual.
So far, it seems to be working out for them.
;-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Blasphemy!
We need to ban these damn heterosexuals! ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
22. when i hear "straight"
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 05:07 PM by hippiegranny
it takes me back to high school. that's what people who didn't party called themselves!

i don't really care what label or nickname people go by as long as they are accepting. i always liked the button "straight but not narrow."

also like this quote: "the only queer people are those who don't love anybody." -rita may brown
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:42 PM
Response to Original message
25. i think that's being a little too PC
with that said, though, i'm one of the few who sees a difference between "gay" and "homosexual" <-- the latter being strictly a man who desires other men sexually. gay, of course, including an entire lifestyle. i think there are lots of "homosexual" men who lived their lives "straight" -- or at least tried to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:07 PM
Response to Original message
27. I have no problems when hetero's call themselves "straight"
Hell, I can't even THINK straight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bookfreak Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 02:33 AM
Response to Original message
28. Semantics
The idea of calling heteros "straight" actually comes from the other side of the Atlantic (Great Britain or somewhere like that) where us queers are called "bent", hence the other folks are "straight".

Ironically since you are talking about terms that some gay folk find offensive, there are some gays/lesbians that take offense to being called "homosexual" as that is a technical originally term used by the American Psychiatric Association to denote a form of mental illness. Of course homosexuality was removed from the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) as a mental illness in 1976, but still, that is where the term "homosexual" originated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 12:39 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC