Who was Jack the Ripper?

[dorktv]

[Breezy du Nord]

1. Seriously?

He killed hooker's in 1888 or something...

Patricia Cornwell wrote a really good book about it.

[dorktv]

2. I know...that is one reason why I thought I would ask..

I am reading her book, but I do not know if she is correct.

[Breezy du Nord]

3. I thought it was kinda interesting

I don't remember some of it. I could only keep it for 2 weeks, so I was cramming, reading really late at nite as stuff.

[SiobhanClancy]

4. I'm going to read that book

when it's available from the library. I won't buy it. During the 2000 "selection",the Richmond,VA newspaper(Times-Dispatch?)published an editorial written by her endorsing *. That's pretty much unforgiveable in my eyes,but I'd still be interested in her conclusions about the Whitechapel murders.

[dorktv]

5. Want me to give it away?

[Lars39]

7. Eeeeewwwww.

Someone that brilliant endorsing Bush*? Kinda takes some of the "joy" out of her books.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

15. She is an uber-rich GOP psycho

owns her own jet... the whole nine yards

[dorktv]

18. you would think as a former employee of the ME's office

she would see the need for drug, welfare, and healthcare reform that actually HELPS people.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

Yes, you would think so, but she is a looooong way from

doing real work there now.

[dorktv]

24. True...but she does write about a lesbian so why be on the side

that hates homosexuals?

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

28. I suspect she is gay, and writing about one lets her live

her desired life while keeping distance.

[dorktv]

30. You know...I have always thought she was gay...simply

because the two main women in her books are so alone.

[Lars39]

22. Maybe she perfected the detatched mindset a little too well. eom

[CatWoman]

6. I like this thread

Saw a documentary about it some time ago -- so many suspects -- even the Queen's grandson (Prince Albert Victor who was said to be mildly retarded).



http://www.casebook.org/suspects/?show=all

Let's talk about this!!!!!!

[dorktv]

9. Oooh...I read a great set of books (fiction) by Robert Asprin and

Linda something or other called Ripping Time and The House that Jack Built that had the theory that James Maybrick was under the control of a hermaphodite and was the killer.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

10. My vote has always been for him... that is the only logical

explanation of why the police closed the investigation and destroyed, concealed, and denied access to information and evidence. Only an order from the Queen would be followed like that with no trace.
And they would be proud to keep that secret to the deathbed.
IMHO.

[dorktv]

11. no...There was not the need to be as stringent as they are

now with regards to records. So I think it was just stupidty that caused all the records to wander off.

[CatWoman]

14. I saw some rare photos once

of his butchered victims.

Scared the hell out of me.

[dorktv]

16. You mean the Kelly and Eddowes? They are very creepy.

[Lars39]

19. Ugh, yes. Wasn't there a made-for tv show that also featured them?

They are the stuff of nightmares.

[dorktv]

21. The worse is Kelly's body.

[AlGore-08.com]

36. There was a miniseries in 1988 starring Michael Caine

As Chief Inspestor Frederick Abberline.

http://www.imdb.com/Title?0095388

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

17. How come they can come up with records of other killings,

but not of the ripper's killings?
there is no such thing as coincidence in intelligence or police work.

[dorktv]

20. no...there are A LOT of records missing from Scotland

Yard.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

25. Yes there are, I agree. But a case of this magnatude and

interest? fuggetaboudit!

Ever consider that the other missing records were "lost" to help cover up the "loss" of the Ripper files?


And there are plenty of case files still there about very mundane occurences on the same dates, so go figure.

I don't buy it.

[dorktv]

27. Well the ripper cases were a huge embarassment, and

they were grusome and horrific...maybe someone did not want them to be kept.

[CatWoman]

12. You're making a lot of sense there, WJMS

A whole lot.

Otherwise, why did they shut the investigation down like they did: to protect the royal family.

[SiobhanClancy]

13. I agree..

I don't think any lesser personage would have merited such a cover-up.

[JackDragna]

32. It wasn't William, Duke of Clarence

William was not in London when at least two of the murders occurred.

[SiobhanClancy]

8. Sorry..ignore this

duplicated Catwoman's link...I guess I am getting tired<yawn>

[CatWoman]

23. Hey, it happens!!!

:D

meanwhile, check out this link: http://www.jacktheripper-cd.com/jacktheripper.html

[Pert_UK]

26. I'm Jack the Ripper...and so is my wife!

Have you seen "From Hell"?

It's an OK film but offers an original but plausible explanation of who he was.

You can do Jack the Ripper walking tours around the areas of London where the killings took place...if that's your thing.

P.

[dorktv]

29. It is...I like the ghosties and the goblies.

[kskiska]

35. I did the Ripper tour in London in the '80s

It was great. The area is populated by immigrants now, but it's still creepy. They even showed us the fountain where the Ripper washed the blood off his hands, and the police were so close behind they saw the blood go down the drain.

[supernova]

38. I saw From Hell

The MD aspect was unusual, as was the whole masonic thing.

The best thing about that movie was still Johnny Depp.

[pretzel4gore]

31. cornwell's book is bull!

the ripper's name was montague john druitt, he committed suicide 2 weeks after kelly murder......
cornwell isn't a writer, she's a typist... her bush support is indicative of her utter lack of anything but her cowardice, and greed..
btw the whitechappel murders did more to shame britain's ruling class into doing something about poverty and degradation then anything else....in a way jack's a (saucy) hero!

[DoctorBombay]

33. I agree that Cornwall is full of crap

I saw a Discovery Channel special on her theory, and it was based on very little evidence

I think the Ripper was the Polish immigrant named Aaron Kozminski. He was actually fingered by an eyewitness after the night of the double murder, I believe. The witness wouldn't testify for some reason. Kozminski was eventually confined to an asylum and the murders stopped.

There is a real interesting book I read that surmises that the Ripper was actually an American doctor, named Tumblety, or something similar. I wish I could remember the name of the book....

[SPQR]

34. One thing I've always found intriguing

is that Lizzie Borden's visit to England (before the murders of her father and stepmother) occurred during the Ripper murders.

[supernova]

37. Hadn't connected those two things

before. :crazy: Wow! Makes you wonder if she got ideas.....