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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:17 PM
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Accidental find... Cato Institute EMPLOYEE with "Anyone but Bush"button
Edited on Sun May-02-04 01:21 PM by SoCalDem
on his website..:)... He also marched in/organized a "Walk for Capitalism" march.. Even the "obvious" ones are turning against Bush :)
http://www.jerrybrito.com/archives/politics.shtml

photos from a Cato Gala event:
http://www.jerrybrito.com/photography/archives/021222D.C.%20to%20Miami%20Roadtrip.shtml
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:25 PM
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1. NO Libertarian could possibly love Bush
He is the exact opposite of Libertarianism.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:27 PM
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2. But they have been "holding their noses" and voting for repubes
up til now :)
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:32 PM
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3. I have a real problem with libertarians
the vast majority of them are hypocrites.

They try to argue that liberals and conservatives are the same, in that one wants to take your economic freedom and the other your social freedom, but more often than not, they will attack liberals and side with conservatives, which to me proves, they care more about economics than social freedoms.

In other words, its all about the money.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:36 PM
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5. In a sense you're right but
As a former registered Libertarian they still have many ideas that I sympathize with such as doing away with corporate welfare, drug laws, price ceilings and floors, and of course their social stance on the issues is virtually identical to what most liberals believes (pro-choice, pro gay marriage ect)

My biggest problem with them is the fact that they believe privatizing is the key and taxes should be replaced with user fees.

After careful study of the effects of such a system I can't say that is a viable option given our nation's history and irresponsibility of what happens when important decisions are left up to a few individuals whose decisions can make a massive negative impact on society.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:51 PM
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9. Sincere question
I am not familiar with the Libertarian platform. Can you tell me how user fees work in lieu of taxes? Does this mean parents pay all the education taxes, fishermen pay for all the hatcheries, commuters for all the highway maintenance?
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:38 PM
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11. Essentially yes
From what I understand people pay user fees for use of roads ect instead of having to pay taxes. It's complete faith in the market system. Taxes are only paid to fund entities such as military and police/fire protection and that's it.

Now please don't quote me on this it's just what I personally have gotten from reading the platform.

And before I get flamed, I left the LP party after I matured a little bit and realized that such dependency on the market would prove utter failure.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:42 PM
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14. Thanks, I didn't know that
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:36 PM
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6. Agree.. They hate regulations & taxes, BUT
Edited on Sun May-02-04 01:37 PM by SoCalDem
they have no problem accessing student loans, using highways, bridges,hospitals, small business loans, etc.

I guess they think that these things just magically appear:(
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:38 PM
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8. Not all Libertarians are alike
As a former registered Libertarian they still have many ideas that I sympathize with such as doing away with corporate welfare, drug laws, price ceilings and floors, and of course their social stance on the issues is virtually identical to what most liberals believes (pro-choice, pro gay marriage ect)

My biggest problem with them is the fact that they believe privatizing is the key and taxes should be replaced with user fees.

After careful study of the effects of such a system I can't say that is a viable option given our nation's history and irresponsibility of what happens when important decisions are left up to a few individuals whose decisions can make a massive negative impact on society.

Many people don't know this but the Libertarian Party website had the headline "NOW THAT THE GOP IS IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS HOLD ONTO YOUR WALLET" After congressional elections.

They were the first ones to call and predict the mess we were going to be in today economically I think.
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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:32 PM
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4. My libertarian boss HATES Bush -
But he voted for the SOB. He took great pleasure in pointing out that he had cancelled out my Gore vote :)

I guess Bush is right - he IS a uniter in some respects. He united my Libertarian boss and me against Bush.

It's too early to tell if he would consider voting Kerry or not. At this point - it doesn't seem likely, but we never know. Neither of us has spent much time researching Kerry - I was following Kucinich most closely because he was who I wanted to vote for. Interestingly enough - my boss really liked a lot about Kucinich.

At any rate - he WILL NOT be voting for Bush, and if I can't help talk him into a Kerry vote he will at least be voting for some Libertarian candidate no one's heard of.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 01:38 PM
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7. Cato is reasonably forthright
their opinions are libertarian, for the most part - ideological. Heritage, OTOH, is partisan. Whatever Bush does is OK by them
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:00 PM
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10. People are just spontaniously talking
about how they hate Bush! Yesterday, my husband and I went for ice cream in Ozark MO (not far from Springfield MO, home of Ashcroft!), and the lady behind the counter just spontaniously started talking about how bad EVERYTHING is and that it is Bush's fault! She didn't know us from Adam (did she decide it was ok because of my husband's long hair and beard? I really don't know!), and just blurted it out! Amazing!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:40 PM
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12. Well there's nothing *capitalist* about Bush
He excludes natural competition (giving Haliburton the contract in Iraq), promotes monopolies, and increases deficit spending.

Clinton was the most Capitalist president we've had in a long time. Should be up there with Teddy R in terms of capitalist presidents.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:27 PM
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13. CATO Institute was against Iraq war
The CATO Institute did some really great pieces on why not to invade Iraq. One of the studies even addressed the concept of even if Saddam had WMD, there was no way he would turn them over to a terrorist. It was an extremely well written piece of analysis.
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