We need a new party for the DLC. "The Bland Whitebread Party."

[Armstead]

No Liberals allowed. No Progressives allowed. No Conservatives allowed. No Greens allowed. No open gays allowed. No labor unions allowed. No minorities allowed. No hippies allowed. No "anti-free trade" protest creeps allowed. No environmentalist whackos allowed. No peaceniks allowed. No angry feminists allowed. No reformers allowed.

Just....er,er,er. Well we'll find someone for this new party. The center. yeah, that's it. The center. People with no identity, no opinions, no views, no interests. Yeah. That's the ticket.

Our party emblem will be a wombat.

[Clete]

1. That was the old GOP in the fifties.

I think they need to go back to the mother ship.

[Armstead]

3. Yup

It sometimes seems like the dominant tussle today is between the moderate conservatibe old-style GOP who now call themselves Democrats and the radical extreme right wing GOP.

[SoCalDem]

2. The "DMW" party

"Don't Make Waves"..:(

I was very disappointed in what I saw today :(

[charlie]

9. Yeah

A smooooooth blending of the differences is electoral gold. When people get bored with Republican tuna salad, they're gonna clamor for our chicken salad!

[Cha]

14. And here comes Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich....

the "Big Wave Makers"! :kick:

[buddhamama]

4. they have interests,Armstead

money interests-moldy green bread?

[Armstead]

5. Ooops, I forgot.

No poor people allowed.

[Cha]

13. That lets me out! No wonder I don't like them.

:kick:

[poskonig]

6. Multinational corporations are allowed!

I knew you forgot something.

[xray s]

7. It's more like the Stale Whitebread Party

And getting moldier every day...

[Capn Sunshine]

8. STOP. PLEASE.

You're only making yourselves look silly with this.

PLEASE STOP.

[Cha]

11. Yeah! You would like that ...wouldn't you!?

[Capn Sunshine]

16. Yes I would. I keep thinking we're on the same team

You obviously have different ideas.
Should I stop working for Howard Dean , too? Not worthy?
Not "leftwing enough"?

[Cha]

20. You can do what you like! I don't tell other People what to

do ...

[Capn Sunshine]

23. No; you just "suggest" and "imply"

that some people just aren't as GOOD as the "true believers", huh?
Of course it's always YOU who gets to define that for us.

[Cha]

29. bullpucky.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

10. Look, if we are going to win, we HAVE to have the left, the middle,

and some of the right. It takes 51% to win. So, can we all just get along?

[ibegurpard]

15. How do you suggest I get along with someone

who derides my values, calls me an elitist, and tells me that I need to move on from the traditional democratic support of the working class?

[Cha]

12. To me the dlc stands for .....democrats/lose/constantly!

:kick:

[Clete]

21. Good one.

I like it.:-)

[Terwilliger]

36. YYYYOOOOUCHH!!!

that hurt! ;-)

[CWebster]

17. LOL!

None of that rabble allowed! Typical Republican projection charging those not in the club as "elitists".

Happened to catch part of From's stumbling, stuttering, porky pig presentation on C-Span this afternoon, to darkened, almost empty room...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. According To The Most Recent Survey Data

17% of Americans consider themselves liberal

35% of Americans consider themselves conservative

and

40% of Americans consider themselves moderate


I'm not Einstein but it sure seems easier to get to 50% from 35% than it does from 17%

Facts are stubborn things....

[Armstead]

31. I consider myself conservative

I want to conserve the things about America that I've always cherished and believed in.

I suspect most people when they call themselves "conservative" mean that.

But I consider myself liberal in that I believe certain public actions are necessary to protect those things.

Facts are stubborn things, tis true. But statements like "You can't be a liberal and win" is not a fact. It is an assertion based on a generality.

[Terwilliger]

37. according to my ass...

where is the basis for your data?

[Psychoblues99]

19. How disappointing of you, Armstead. Is this your true opinion of DLC?

Otherwise I'll take it for what it's worth and LOL.

Psychoblues

Dems Gotta Keep On Truckin'.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

[Armstead]

32. Take it for what it's worth

It's "Free and worth every penny." :)

[Psychoblues99]

34. I definitely agree with you on that, Armstead!!!!!!!!!!!!

:hippie: :smoke: :toast: PEACE

Psychoblues

Dems Gotta Keep On Truckin'.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

[Tinoire]

22. lol!

And next election we'll see all these people whining that the Greens are up to a whopping 7% with votes 'stolen' from the Democratic Party.

Well, they can't be called stolen if we give them to the Greens can they? I'm really getting sick of this center shit. People who stand in the center of the road get RUN OVER!

So be left or be right but NO STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WITH ALL THIS TRAFFIC!

[Psychoblues99]

24. And if the geens only attract 1.2% will you come crying and begging to

the Democrats? ...........I didn't think so. It's a percentage game in a two party system. I won't say this about the 2000 election but I will about this system, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!! Get real, vote responsibly and hope for the best that you can imagine. That's the American system.

Psychoblues

Dems Gotta Keep On Truckin'.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,,.,,,.,.,,.,,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,

[Tinoire]

25. Yada, yada, yada

Looks like centrists are going to have to stop thinking they're the center of the world because they're fast turning what was already obscene, a two-party system, into a ONE-PARTY system... And you know what? That dog don't hunt.

[Psychoblues99]

28. And neither does that dog named "What's the Difference".

It's all more yada, yada yada that is meant to confuse the populace while greening the pockets of the proclaimers. Some, even many, tend to believe it. I don't.

Psychoblues

Dems Gotta Keep On Truckin'.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,

[noiretextatique]

41. i think you mean "no difference"

and it's simply the inevitable outcome of "blurring the difference." it's like mixing paint...a little yellow, a little blue...eventually you get green :D

[JohnKleeb]

33. SB not angry but the democratic party achieved its pinnacle as a

liberal party
remember from the depression to the death of RFK we ruled guys.

[jonnyblitz]

26. sounds like a party lots in here would be right at home in...n/t

[KoKo]

27. A Wombat???????????? Do I need to look up their characteristics?

Yuck!

Otherwise, I don't disagree with you, Armstead! :P

[Tinoire]

30. Sign me up Armstead!

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

[Terwilliger]

35. Bland? BLAND?!

They're nothing if not mediocre...thats better than bland.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. How about the "NAB" Party

The "Not as Bad" Party

That seems to be their battle cry. Any Democrat would be "not as bad" as Bush.

Inspiring. Kind of like "Our poisen tastes better than their poisen."

[John_H]

39. Just for the record,

could you list the top five pieces of legislation the Democratic Party could endorse to earn your support?

[Armstead]

42. Okay

Universal Health Care -- Whatever the details (expanded Medicare, a public guaranteed "buy in" plan with rates pegged to income, whatever) but aggressively propose fight for and advance a clear plan to make certain that everyone has access to affordable health care. It can include private sector involvement -- but no more kowtowing to the insurance and corporate healthcare mafia.

Strong Anti-Trust Actions -- Eitehr through legislation or application of existing laws. But make as a priority to restore diversity to the economy, and challenge the excessive monopoly power of multi-national corporations

Fair Trade -- No more "free trade" that is really a giveaway to corporate interests at the expense of the real world economy and the true needs of people here and abroad. Rejection of these GATTs WTOs and other international forms of trickle down economics that are gutting the sovergnty of nations.

Livable Minimum Wage -- Our economy worked fine when the Minimum Wage was pegged to what was necessary to pay basic living expenses. That also affects all other wages too. We must restore that as a concept.

Public Services -- No more "privitization scams with electric power and otehr basic public services.

[ulysses]

40. *snarf*

A wombat indeed. :D