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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:21 AM
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Buzz in DC says serial liar Condi might jump ship
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:27 AM
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1. good move
she should've never been hired in the first place. a national security adviser whose expertise is in Soviet affairs is not needed in the 21st century, especially in a post 9/11 environment.
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The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:30 AM
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2. but she fit in so well w/ her Chevron connections
remember, she did have a boat named after her.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:33 AM
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3. She ought to resign.
She's incompetent. Her suggested replacements don't sound much better. Maybe they'll dig up Ollie North.
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LiberalLibra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:42 AM
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4. Don't count on it - until she starts singing that is - if she does.....
....defect she will pay a dear price.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:48 AM
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5. Adam blaming Eve
yep, it's all the woman's fault.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:03 PM
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8. This isn't an issue of gender bias
This person really is a liar and an incompetent boob.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:05 PM
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9. I did not know that being a woman freed you from accountability
/sarcasm
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:14 PM
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14. off topic question to loonman
who is the woman what is her significance
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:16 PM
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15. Condi Rice has shown her incompetence
..and ability to make untrue statements for the public record.

This is not because she is a woman, or for any other reason. People should be judged on their own merits...or lack thereof.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:35 PM
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17. no i mean the blonde whose picture is on all
of your posts.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:39 PM
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19. It's "Ms. Terminator"
See your movie listings for the current Ahhhh-nold flick.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:39 PM
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20. The Terminatrix?
She's a machine.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:07 PM
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25. What do you mean?
Do you think that the Bush administration might be sacrificing Rice because she is female?
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:55 AM
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6. good, she's an idiot...
So out of her depth it isn't real. A Sovietologist for crying out loud. She's so outdated in her thinking I just don't know where to start on my "data points" about her...

I think when she said "someone, probably in the bowels of the agency, maybe knew these were forgeries...Blah, Blah, Blah", I figured she'd exposed herself as a total screw up. Or maybe it was when Sandy Berger said "hey, I told Condi she had to deal with this stuff like, yesterday" but then she threw the terrorism crap in a desk drawer and said "I won't bother with this boring stuff right now."

Sheesh....
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pbeal Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:08 PM
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12. she was also one of those who were suprised when the USSR fell
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 12:09 PM by pbeal
Not only is her area of knowledge outdated it was erroneous in the first place, It is like being an expert in spontaneous generation.

I never understood why none of the paleo-cons ever pointed out her obvious lack of credibility for the job, Well them and our weak willed Democratic senators.

edited to remove a double negative
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:58 AM
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7. Just in time for her...
run for governor in California...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:11 PM
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13. Governor of Cal? Does she know it's a recall not a "traditional election"?
;-)
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:07 PM
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10. interesting link
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:07 PM
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11. She is incompetent, but no more than the rest of King George's
royal court. But I don't blame her but the boobs who gave her the position.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:18 PM
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16. Uh...*she* lies? Don't you mean
that she is a good and loyal employee who goes out and fronts for her boss when required to? These are not *her* lies, they are what the administration wants said.

Her qualifications are what the rest of 'em have: they are pathologically loyal members of the cult of personality of George Bush*. Its been said time and again that this is what he demands. As for her areas of expertise, plenty of the Nixon retreads and PNAC hounds are also old cold warriors. The damn administration is some retro festival---they want and need an enemy and don't care if its Soviets or Iraqis.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:38 PM
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18. One additional qualification (for all of them)...
...that you left out, and it's part of what drew Bush & them together:

Bush, being a decidedly uncurious man, doesn't like question, he wants answers. Solid answers, with no hemming and hawing. It's a quality that drew him toward "born again" evangelicism once he "got religion", and something that's easy to disguise as a macho "no nonsense" attitude.

Condi, Rummy, Wolfy, and the rest of the PNAC gallery make a perfect match: they know everything, they have complete confidence in their own analyses and complete contempt for differing ones, and they have a plan which they have every confidence will work.

Absolutely nothing can shatter these peoples' high opinion of themselves. Not being utterly wrong about the strength of the Soviet Union, not terrorist killing thousands and bringing down some of the largest buildings in the world, nothing.

These people are made for each other. problem is, they're not made for the rest of us...
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:40 PM
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22. Maybe this too........
a completely loyal employee who will not bring her boss any information which might conflict with his beliefs or idology.

Think so?
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:50 PM
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21. what buzz?
sources please!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:46 PM
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23. Scowcroft would be an improvement
Obviously, you can't hope for MUCH with this admisnistration. But Scowcroft did criticize the Bushies on foreign policy a while back. That means, of course, that Smirk will never pick him. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Personally, I think "Condi" MUST GO!!!

Bake
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:04 PM
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24. maybe she's tired of lying
she'd always been more of a behind-the-scenes policy wonk. she never before had to get in front of a microphone every day and lie.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:09 PM
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26. "Buzz in DC says serial liar Condi might jump ship"
Condi won't "jump ship"....it is more likely she will be
pushed over. It will not be enough to stop the talk though
and there is now a grey cloud hovering around this pResident's
head that is flashing the words "LIAR and DECEIVER"

This cloud will hover all around his re-election campaign.

"Bush Lied and Soldiers Died"
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:24 PM
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27. AWOL Will Probably Call Up His 'ol buddy JC Watts
to fill her shoes. hahahahahahahaha!!!!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:41 PM
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28. OMFG--Scowcroft
as a potential replacement? That would be absolutely incredible. An old Cold Warrior, he's no PNAC pawn.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 04:39 PM
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29. As I recall

Rice was always considered an inferior imitation of Scowcroft and it was pointed out when Bush nominated her as NSA. She went to Liar's Graduate School by becoming a university provost though, that's one thing she's got a leg up on Scowcroft on.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/vote2000/bush42.htm

Or just google their names for better sources.
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