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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:26 AM
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Republican Tim McVeigh got a trial and Husseins sons got a TOW missile?
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 09:32 AM by NNN0LHI
I don't know? But something is not right here. Not sure what? But somethings definitely wrong.

Don

Edited for spelling...as usual.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:30 AM
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1. Tim McVeigh wasn't a former BCE business partner...
...who needed to be silenced.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:33 AM
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2. These are political assassinations that have nothing to do with 'war'.
- A Bush Family Vendetta.

- No wonder the Bushies don't want to join or recognize the international criminal court. They've already broken numerous laws...from bombing civilian buildings to killing innocents in their missile attacks on 'possible' Saddam targets.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:36 AM
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3. Don't forget the 'possible' bin Laden targets we nailed too
Who were they? We never heard nothing after the DNA was sent to be checked. Nothing.

Don

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:51 AM
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7. Including a report of at least 1 US citizen in Yemen
Hellfire
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:36 AM
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4. wha?
I don't know if anyone told you yet but....If you shoot at a soldier they get this odd idea in their head that they should kill you. Yeah I know crazy right? Go figure
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:42 AM
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5. Let me tell you something
Most people I know would open up on an invading force that came into this country too. Yea, they would.

Don

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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:45 AM
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6. of course
but if they had been so intent upon surrendering, why not just come out hands up ?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:51 AM
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8. I wouldn't have
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 09:54 AM by NNN0LHI
I would rather go down standing on my feet than on my knees if this country were invaded. I would not have went easy. Would you have?

Don

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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:58 AM
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14. Then why are you complaining about them not having a trial?
They went down just as you would have wanted had you been in their shoes.

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:52 AM
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9. Some seem to have the impression...
...that we're 'defending' Saddam's sons. Nothing could be further from the truth. But please...take a closer look at what the US is doing in Iraq.

- The Bushies have completely ignored international law by launching a unilateral preemptive strike against a country that posed no threat to the US. Now they're going around the country killing...oops...civilians in their crusade to bring a few 'evildoers' to justice. How can this possibly benefit the US in the long run?

- Think about it: the Bushies have killed literally THOUSANDS of innocents in the middle east as revenge for 9-11. These thousands of unnecessary deaths will breed thousands of new terrorists seeking revenge for the Iraq invasion.
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qandnotq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:25 AM
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19. you are not 'defending' Uday/Qusay
but that sure seems to be the tone of some other posters. so, these two got shot in a combat situation. boo-fucking-hoo. we kill lots of Iraqis who shoot at us, but I don't see anyone complaining that they didn't get trials. you shoot at an American patrol, and you are begging to get killed.

i think we should have made a greater effort to get them alive in OUR interest. others seem to think we should have tried harder to capture them alive out of respect for their civil rights or something. engaging in a 4 hour gun battle with the 101st Airborne pretty much waives your right to a fair trial.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:29 AM
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21. Of course the same people who have told us the gun battle story...
...are the same ones who told us to worry about "mushroom clouds" over our cities from Iraq.

Don

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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:33 AM
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22. You know this whole "they lie" is gettting out of hand
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 10:33 AM by Blue_Chill
some peopl use it to justify any moronic claim they wish to spew in DU.

Aliens killed the Hussien boys, I mean you never know we already proved Bush lied so he could be doing it again to cover up the green men from Jupiter that have come down to destroy us all.

Please.....

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Sir Gawaine Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:48 AM
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23. I see your point, but
//against a country that posed no threat to the US. //

Why are you so sure of this? Oh, sure, now we know, but I'm not certain we did then. Why, with all we know that SH has done would you not be suspicious of their intentions?
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:00 AM
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15. Most people you know
but luckily not most people in Iraq.

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 02:20 PM
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27. Agreed, waste em
Sounds harsh, but these were slimebags so I'm not gonna rush to their defense.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:53 AM
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10. And don't forget
After 9/11, bin Laden's family gets a free chartered plane trip.

Yes, quite a difference.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:55 AM
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12. And at a time no other planes were flying but military n/t
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:54 AM
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11. Ummm, Republican Tim McVeigh got a trial and
a lethal injection.
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Dont B bush N Me Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:57 AM
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13. Further evidence of the media's disdane for American's
There still reporting they don't know if Uday committed suicide or not? Please!! Gunpowder residue should tell that shouldn't it? And why do they want it to be questionalble as to whether it was a suicide or not?
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:14 AM
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16. uhmm..
Tim McVeigh was arrested and given a trial because he committed a crime on U.S. soil. Hussein and sons haven't committed any crimes on U.S. soil so our courts have no jurisdiction over trying them. They were however leading the Iraqi forces that are killing U.S. troops in Iraq so apprehending them was necessary to protect our forces.

I don't think the Husseins were just shot down, I'm guessing they fired on the special forces. You honestly are the exact kind of liberal Sean Hannity likes, one that makes ridiculous statements. I'm not a big fan of the war in Iraq but I certainly don't want our forces handcuffed from defending themselves.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:24 AM
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18. Sean Hannity is an idiot. - U.S. plans new court system for Iraq
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/special_packages/iraq/6109815.htm

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. administrator in Iraq announced plans on Tuesday for a new Central Court that will tackle the country's serious criminal cases, as coalition military forces continued their struggle to bring civil order to Iraq.

L. Paul Bremer said the court should be "an illustration of how important we think it is to show that we are serious about going after some of the supporters of the previous regime who have committed crimes against the Iraqi people (and) against the coalition."

Iraq's future interim government will have to decide whether the court would be used to try war criminals, he said.

The absence of a functioning judicial system has hampered the U.S.-led effort to end crime, looting and attacks on U.S. forces, and helped fuel resentment of American troops who have been rounding up suspected criminals and Saddam Hussein loyalists without a court system to determine which ones are enemy combatants and which are innocent victims.

"Before the Americans, there was law," said Najah Chasip, who witnessed a gun battle between would-be carjackers and a car owner and his friends Monday afternoon. One of the suspects was shot in the leg, and a man in the crowd took a bullet to the back, Chasip said.

more

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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 01:58 PM
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24. well it's a war,...
And the Husseins were military leaders who were killed in battle. This wasn't an illegal assasination or anything like that. Why does your pacifistic heart bleed for them? It's probably not even them so stop your mourning.
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Sir Gawaine Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:29 AM
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20. I can't say that I feel sorry for the Hussein boys.
:nopity:

I can't say that I feel sorry for the Hussein boys. I think to call it a political assassination would be to overplay our hand a bit.
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:22 AM
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17. Tim McVeigh would have been shot
If he had engaged U.S. troops with grenades and automatic weapons.

But from what I remember, he offered no resistance when arrested and thus got the trial to which he was entitled.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 02:07 PM
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25. This is BUSH'S WAR...that he made for his own self-interest...
- Bush* needed this war to improve his DYING poll ratings before 9-11 and for Friends of Bush to reap a whirlwind profit.

- It looks as if the Bushies can't afford to leave alive any 'witnesses' to the Bush/Saddam/bin Laden connection. He will NEVER allow anyone with any real information to live.

- We tend to forget that the Reagan/Bush administrations supplied Saddam and his sons with weapons of mass destruction. They most desperately need to hide that connection forever.

- We're also forgetting that Bush's* war is ILLEGAL. There was no 'coalition'. Nearly the whole world was against this invasion...and for good reason. The UN inspectors were obvously doing their job and doing it well. The Bushies had to kick them out of Iraq so they could start the Big show. They bombed civilian buildings and killed innocents in each attempt against Saddam targets.

- I'll say it again. This was a political assassination and had nothing to do with 'war'.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 02:16 PM
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26. no the last I checked...
Congress authorized the war so it was legal under U.S. law. But you pacifists oppose our soldiers even defending themselves. I'm not a fan of the war but if enemy soldiers shoot at our soldiers they should be killed. It's called war.
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