Rush's comments on soldiers dying... (UFB!)

[chiburb]

Recapped at mahablog:

Even today, after news of the demise of Saddam's sons, I encountered a cognitively challenged person who assumed "lefties" would be saddened by the loss of the Hussein boys. Against the war? You must be pro-Saddam!

Well, folks, let's look at how that great patriot Rush Limbaugh supports our troops.

"Folks, we're getting a daily death update out of Iraq, and we're hearing slogans like, "One a day," and "Our troops are being slaughtered," from the Democrats, as their willing accomplices in the press try to concoct this notion that the casualty rate over there is outrageous and intolerable.

The following statistics come from the Centers for Disease Control website: On a daily basis, on average, 10 Americans die by drowning, and nine Americans die by fire in their homes. 14 Americans die by pedestrian accidents. 27 Americans die in falls. On average, 50 Americans a day are murdered. 118 die in auto accidents, and 25 people die from A.I.D.S. every day, on average. Yesterday, two Americans died in battle in Iraq."

Heart-warming, huh? Rush, who didn't serve in Vietnam because he had a cyst on his butt, is awfully sanguine about other people dying in Iraq.

If you know anyone in the military, be sure to send them a link to Rush's words of support for our troops. People should know who their real friends are.

http://www.mahablog.com/

[barbaraann]

1. Americans are just numbers to the BFEE, not people.

n/t

[liberalhistorian]

3. Not just numbers, but numbers to be

plundered and exploited and then cast off when there's nothing left to plunder and exploit. I'm convinced that they would have been laboring mightily on England's behalf during the American Revolution!

[blondeatlast]

2. UFB is right. He is so easy to discredit.

Let's see, there are approximately 230 MILLION people in the US according to latest census figures. There are approximately 140, 000 in Iraq. Seems like, without doing to much math, that is still too many casualties.

The first casualty for this effing invasion (whether it was civilian or military doesn't matter to me) was way, way too many.

[cjbuchanan]

24. let's look at the odds.

Using Rush's own figures lets look at the numbers.
230 million Americans in US
140,000 Soldiers in Iraq

For these odds I assumed 1 American killed per day (even though 5 have died in the last 2 days).

A soldier is 13.9 times more likely to die in Iraq than an American dieing due to a car accident.
A soldier is 33.8 times more likely to die in Iraq than an American dieing due to murder.
A soldier is 60.7 times more likely to die in Iraq than an American dieing due to a fall.
A soldier is 65.7 times more likely to die in Iraq than an American dieing due to AIDS.
A soldier is 118 times more likely to die in Iraq than an American dieing due to a pedestrian accident.
A soldier is 165.1 times more likely to die in Iraq than an American dieing due to drowning.

I think these numbers speak volumes.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

27. Bravo

Great number crunching! Send that to Rush.

[maha]

28. May I use your numbers?

That's wonderful! May I use your numbers in the next update of The Mahablog? (http://www.mahablog.com)

I am math challenged myself and could never have come up with that.

Maha

[chiburb]

32. Well... Since I used your site...

To start this thread, I'm sure there would be no problem in using anything posted in it. Do the Mods (or anyone else) see a problem?

[cjbuchanan]

35. Use away

Feel free to get the word out, just correct my spelling errors.

Just some other facts. If people in America were being murdered at the same rate that they are in Iraq, one American would be killed every 45 seconds. That is the same as 1920 people murdered every day.

If 1920 people were getting murdered every day, it would be huge news.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

39. Damn that is great analysis

2000 people killed everyday would be over 4 9/11's per week!

[WilliamPitt]

41. I am stealing this for my article

Thank you so much for putting this together.

[Pale Blue Dot]

4. Cystboy obviously flunked math

He never learned something called "proportions". 10 Americans out of the entire population of the US vs. 2 soldiers out of the active troops in Iraq. hmmm. Once again he has proven that statistics can be used any way you want.

[BOSSHOG]

5. limbaugh and the rest of the right wing cabal

care not about the deaths of american servicemembers because they are dying for the honorable man of integrity george bush. limbaugh and his kind are cowards who hide behind microphones. limbaugh and his kind must stay up late at night to get the fax from karl rove who tells them how to spin the news. The deaths of our servicemembers are not important to george bush who has yet to attend a funeral, although this is another rove calculation. The last thing the gop wants is a picture of bush next to a flag draped coffin. THE LIMBAUGHS AND BUSHS OF THE WORLD HAVE NO DECENCY, HAVE NO COMPASSION, HAVE NO INTEGRITY. I'm a 24 year Navy vet and I dread picking up the paper every day. Conservatives could care less about our dead kids. And its alright with conservatives if we slaughter and destroy innocent iraqis just as long as there ain't any aborting going on. I know there are conservatives on this site. And I know you don't like my assertions about conservatives. Tough fucking shit. Work to get our kids out of iraq. Work to get bush out of the white house. Work to get the truth out of limbaugh. That's what you conservatives don't do.

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[Pale Blue Dot]

8. Uh-huh

Thanks for explaining that. It all makes sense now. Go home folks! Nothing to see here!

[mac56]

9. Try telling that to the family members.

And welcome to DU.

[blondeatlast]

12. He is implying that we are being political opportunists.

Nobody on DUs position has changed that I'm aware of. It is the RW who have tried to minimalize the damage (bushit declared the combat essentially over in May, if you will recall). We were in combat in Normandy, friend--we (supposedly) aren't in combat in Baghdad and Fellujah.

Welcome to DU--I think.

[BOSSHOG]

15. Gotta disagree my fellow american

Conservatives definitely think that dead american servicemembers are "unimportant." They are just pawns in the rich republicans chess game. They are dying for the great moron who deserted his military unit. And just what the fuck does "severity of the numbers is being exaggerated" mean? Please, if you have never served in the military, hustle down to the army recruiter and tell them you want to go to iraq as soon as you complete basic training. Then you can get killed and we will not exaggerate the severity of your death. limbaugh and bush are morons with a moron agenda. Why do you support the idiots?

[blondeatlast]

7. Sheesh--who really is pro-troops here?

3 months ago, I was protesting the war, which meant I wasn't "supporting the troops (bushit)." At the same time, I was e-mailing like crazy to try to prevent vets benefits from being cut.

Now I want them out; I'm concerned that they are sitting ducks, and it seems to me that my position hasn't changed one iota.

Tell me, who are the real political opportunists?

[ima_sinnic]

10. and I heard Neal Boortz making that absurd claim also

. . . that "liberals" were "upset" by the deaths of Q&U because "it makes the Republicans look good" (or something to that effect).

as far as I am concerned, this country is in outright civil war. I feel that remarks like that serve no purpose other than to inflame people against someoe like me, an avowed "liberal," with false propaganda.

[MUAD_DIB]

11. Died in battle...not

These deaths are not accidental.

Our troops are being picked off by snipers, RPGs and bombs.


Q: How many AM radio BS personalities die per day because of sniper attacks?

A: None, but if it was 1 per day then I can bet you my bottom dollar that this AH, on the low-brow end of the dial, would be screaming for investigations and protection for himself and his puckering anal cyst from the security of his high-priced his hidy-hole.

Chingasso!

[LeftHander]

13. Accidents and Disease is not WAR dumbass.

Deaths in Iraq are a result of violence of a person aiming a weapon at another person's head and pulling the trigger....something that was optional.

What a boob.

[Gman]

14. All of those things have absolutely nothing to do with soldiers dying

Of course, Rush doesn't like to be confused with logic and reason.

[Yavin4]

16. Rush Didn't Mind It When

the media kept a daily tally of how many days the hostages were being held in Iran under Jimmy Carter.

[usual_suspect]

17. The numbers

If you can believe Rush’s numbers (and you can’t) there must be more deaths a day in the States. So lets assume that there are 500 deaths per day. If you can believe my numbers( and you can’t) that comes out to 1.8 to the –6 percent. Two dead in Iraq comes out to 1.4 to the –5 percent. Not very good, is it.

[Oilwellian]

18. Let's also not forget...

the number of wounded, some quite severely, coming out of Iraq. Then the picture gets a little uglier. Sure, they may survive but many will live a lifetime with debilitating injuries and at the same time see their veteran benefits cut. The military is also attempting to hide the number of soldiers who are experiencing symptoms of exposure to depleted uranium. That is truly the quiet killer that gets very little attention. The reports I've read state the military used twice as many of those weapons in this war as they did in the Gulf War. According to the veterans administration, over 10,000 have died from being poisoned by these weapons and over 100,000 are disabled from it. I'd like to stick those stats up Rush' cystic ass and see him rotate for a while.

[kaybea]

19. Yeah, and exactly ZERO Americans die

on an average DAILY basis from terrorist attacks, and yet that doesn't stop cornholers like Rush and his audience of feebs from gobble-gobbling like turkeys about terroists.

Notice that the majority of these Chicken Littles call in to C-span from West Buttcrack, Kansas (sorry, no offense to Kansas DUers) scared liquid-shit out of their minds that some dark Middle-Easterner is planning to bomb their one grain silo, one blinking-traffic-light "town". As if.

Does the fact that more Americans on average die slipping in the shower than will ever be killed from terroist attacks faze these fear-mongers??

Of course not.

[blondeatlast]

45. Welcome to DU! I like your thinking!

:toast:

[kaybea]

48. Thank you, Blondeatlast!

Nothing on this planet pisses me off more than a blowhard. The rightwing is full of them, with Bu$h as their figurehead--and twice as useless.

[underpants]

20. Perspective:Only 1 British whistleblowing scientist dies per war

Only 1 Democratic Senate hopefull dies every four years.

[underpants]

21. I thought Repubes wanted to save EVERY LIFE

right? Isn;t that why they want to tell people what to do with their own bodies and their own lives?

Rush can eat my filth.

[Kolesar]

22. 100/day die of respiratory illness due to pollution, smog and particulate

Actually, it is probably more like 300/day.

[catmandu57]

23. These comments ought to be sent

on to espn, disney, and abc. Let see how they spin hiring the vulgar pigboy now.

[The Night Owl]

25. Just statistics...

I have said it before and I will say it again... to people like Rush, soldiers are not people, they are statistics. Rush's kind spewed the same kind talk during the Vietnam war.

[Mari333]

26. That fat f*ck

Chickenhawk, AWOL Boil on his ass bastard.
Never served, never served, never served, got out of Vietnam with an anal cyst...

[CafeToad]

29. Wonder why he didn't include accidental gun deaths

in his list of ways American die every day?

There's 55 to 70 of those (note, this number includes suicides, but not homicides or murders).

[Redleg]

30. Sorry fucking slob.

He's a real piece of work. I would like about 2 minutes alone with him in a dark alley...

[Aristus]

33. Better make that three minutes, redleg. All that flab can absorb a

lot of damage. But hey! Go ahead! I'll even hold him down for ya. :thumbsup:

[phillybri]

31. Disgusting piece of shit.....

:grr:

[patdem]

34. Rush sits on that cyst filled butt daily...seems foot pounding

would be better than sitting? But then again it would require you to be subject to being killed? Better to sit on the cysts than to heal them? Maybe the cysts have migrated and now reside in his BRAIN? :shrug:

[Jacobin]

36. They used the exact same methodology to justify Vietnam

"Hey, this ain't so bad....we only lost 50,000 killed and 300,000 maimed. In a year we lose 50,000 on the highways! We are in Vietnam for a good reason (um, wait, I'll think of it in a minute)"

Just wait. Next they will say we need to keep troops in Iraq and spend more on the military because it would hurt the economy if we withdrew.

THAT was an actual story in Newsweek in the early 1970's to try to justify the continuation of the genocide in Vietnam.

It's only just begun and it will boggle your mind how bad these assholes are and how ghastly the thinking in this country will become.

Hanging up dead bodies like cow carcasses on TV is just the fucking beginning.

This nation is completely and absolutely craven.

[opihimoimoi]

37. The PUBs and their minions are the Craven Ones

Many are Caring/Sharing Human Beings who happen to be Concerned Americans.

Rush is a fat Whore who makes oodles of money saying the things he sez.

He is compelled by the profits/bennies to be the front man in the assualt on America to grab control for the rich guys plan.

He is a TOOL, never mind the boils on his ass.

[opihimoimoi]

The PUBs are Phoney

More power to the PEOPLE, Its Opportunity not Destiny

[opihimoimoi]

38. The PUBs and their minions are the Ones Killing America by way

of PysOps, bull shit disguised as cake

"Let them Eat Cake" M.A., just before the Blade.

[chiburb]

40. For those that don't know Maha,

From her articles at DU, please visit her blog. She often provides an historical perspective to the current, sad state of affairs. For example, her pre-invasion comparison to our adventures in the Phillipines was especially good. Younger DUers in particular will enjoy her archives which spell out the ENTIRE history of the BFEE.

http://www.mahablog.com/

[Warren Stuart]

42. "One death is a tragedy"

"a million deaths are a statistic" Josef Stalin

Rush and Stalin have a lot in common.

[devinsgram]

43. Rush is a robot

Rush has got to be an robot, cause humans have hearts. At least those "average Americans" died in their own country, not in a strange and foreign land after being told a lie about why they are there.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

44. Who cares what Rush says?

Only doo-dah brains listen to him.

[jmowreader]

46. It was a back problem that kept Limbaugh out of Vietnam

I really wish y'all would quit saying Mr. Christie's "pilonidal cyst" kept him out of Vietnam. It was his back problem.

Y'see, when there's a yellow stripe a foot wide runnin' right down the middle of it, fightin's out of the question.

[absolutezero]

47. hey Rush

say that the losses aren't too high to all the families you piece of filth

[midnitemoleman]

49. We need a march on ESPN to get this guy gone! (calling Tony Saprano)

Or Pually Walnut's, Little Chris, or Silvio!
"The more I try to get out..., the more they pull me back in".