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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:51 AM
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Let's pitch caucuses and primaries: National Primary Day
With states cutting each others throats to have the first primary and with the candidates being pretty much selected by the end of February, we should just pitch them all. Several states are not getting in the rat race by canceling or not funding thier primaries.
Florida is debating holding a straw poll again but that is a big waste of campaign funds.

My proposal is that we pick a date in June (say Flag day) as a National Primary Day where all states hold thier primaries and make it a National holiday. We should also make the General Election a holiday. That way, states can save money and all races will be of equal importance and there is plenty of time to campaign.

Just, MHO.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:52 AM
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1. No argument from me
I vote in the MAY primary.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:54 AM
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2. The candidate will most likely
be picked by then, so it's like you really have no say in who is picked.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:13 AM
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9. The only chance I have
is if the convention goes to a second or third vote. NC gives proportional delegates, so...
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:56 AM
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3. Plus
It would increase turnout because people would have the day off to vote.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:01 AM
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4. Small states
will never see candidates then. Only large urban centers with lots of votes.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:03 AM
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5. You forget
The red states had 50 million voters in the 2000 election. They will be represented.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:09 AM
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7. I don't live in a red state
Gore won here. And we have a population of 3 million people. Why would you come here in a national primary, when you could spend all of your time in NY and LA?

Don't assume rural=red
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:13 AM
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8. Candidates campaign nationwide
and buy TV spots nationwide for the general election. I didn't say it didn't have its faults. Its just a better way to pick our candidates. States could thoeretically hold straw polls before Primary Day, and the candidates that are behind would gravitate to those states.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:22 AM
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12. I just wish
it was more spread out. As for getting to know a candidate from TV spots - not interested.

However I do greatly understand the frustration of people who don't live in IA or NH. Regional primaries are a better idea than national.

Would John Edwards support a ban on meat packers owning hogs if he didn't have to campaign here? Nope. He's a tool of the hog industry in NC. And let's not forget ethanol, and on and on.

Just keep in mind here in Iowa we have very little of national importance except every 4 years someone pays attention to us. Big states always have media there to spotlight issues going on in their state.

This is a fundamental issue our nation has struggled with since it's birth. Big vs Small state power, and how to make sure everyone is represented.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:27 AM
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14. Regional Primaries
Spread out over 2 weekends is an idea. Northeast and Southwest one day and Southeast and Northwest another.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:32 AM
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15. being a midwesterner
I'd like to ammend that idea to include the midwest as a separate region. I think my state shares more in common with states like Minnesota and Michigan and South Dakota than California or New York.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:36 AM
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16. A farm state, yes.
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 11:24 AM by camero
But the key would be for one state or region not to have too much influence. If that idea takes hold, I think 4 regions instead of 5 would be best. Then we would have more diverse areas.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:07 AM
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6. That benefits us actually
Since Gore got most of the urban vote in 2000.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:57 AM
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27. kick
kick
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:15 AM
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10. I like Ross Perot's advice for getting middle class Americans to the polls
At least two days of voting, let's say a Friday and a Saturday, so people who work for a living have a realistic opportunity to get to the polls. Sure, you're boss is required to give you time off, but then again your boss isn't supposed to fire you for supporting a union, so how likely is it really.

Two days of voting, at a minimum.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:18 AM
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11. That's a good idea
It would also require an increase in funding for elections. And more poll workers watching polling places for irregularties.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:23 AM
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13. many countries
do that. Or make election day a holiday.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:41 AM
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17. rather shorten the race
and have complete federal funding. which would mean goerge would not be pimping for money day after day after day.
george is either ON VACATION or RAISING MONEY FOR RETARDICANS.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:44 AM
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19. I agree with public financing
It's just a seperate issue and I would have to start another thread.. Haha. But we will eventually have to have public financing of all campaigns.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:47 AM
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20. Someone tell that
to HoHo. The money race is a race we'll lose.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:42 AM
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18. Another thing
Candidates would stay in for the whole race and maybe limit the influence of money in poltics. How many times have you thought you picked a good candidate but his or her money ran out before all the primaries were done?
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:59 AM
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21. well...
I'm a Dennis K. supporter. So yes.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:09 AM
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22. Most likely
DK would have just as much a chance to win under this system. If public financing of all campaigns was included, he would have a much better chance of winning. Ideas would trump special interests.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:12 AM
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23. Why our party is SO screwed up
we're seen as a conglomeration of special interests, rather than a party of working class people.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:16 AM
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24. How true
Special Interests have way too much pull in both parties, mostly because of the money race. Which like you said, we won't win.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:36 AM
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25. kick
kick
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:55 AM
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26. kick
kick
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