Post absurd arguments that the right uses to attack same-sex marriage...

[Some Moran]

Here's my "favourite":

"Why should I be forced to accept their marriage as legitimate?"

How is that any more logical than a homosexual saying "Why should I be forced to accept a heterosexual marriage as legitimate?"

[HFishbine]

1. "Marriage

is between a man and a women."

Yeah, I know. But that's the one I hear most often.

[7th_Sephiroth]

2. one i have heard most is

because its against the will of god

[demgrrrll]

5. Lakoff wrote that for Democrats to win this issue the issue needs to be

framed in this manner, Gay men and women should have the freedom or the right to marry. He feels that the way the Republicans have the issue framed now it is tied to sex rather than a right or being free to do something in a country that supposedly prizes freedom. Fundies will never agree no mattter how the issue is framed but other people might be swayed by that logic, I really don't know but I did think it was an interesting take on the issue.

[Iris]

27. This is so true.

The Republicans claim gay marriages will "destroy the family."

[Kamika]

3. Its not natural

amongst others

[mrfrapp]

4. Without question...

...the most absurd argument is, "Leviticus 18:22". That just drives
me up the wall I'm afraid.

[HFishbine]

6. That's one of the easist to refute

If one finds Leviticus so instructive, ask:

Do they also believe it is against God's will for banks to charge interest on loans?

Do they believe it is against God's will for restaurants and grocery stores to make a profit on food?

Do they believe it is a sin to eat pork?

Do they believe it is a sin to wear clothes of mixed fibres?

Do they believe it is a sin to have a tattoo?

If they have children, ask if they sacrificed a year-old lamb sixty days after the birth of their child.

If they are an employer, ask if they pay their employees every day.

Do they love immigrants as they do themselves?

Do they condone the death penalty for adultery?

Do they condone the dealth penalty for anybody who curses his mother or father?

Do they condone the death penalty for incest?

Do they believe that John Edwards (the "medium," not the candidate) should be stoned to death?

Do they believe that the handicapped should not be allowed to be priests?

Do they ever work on the Sabbath?

Do they only eat unlevened bread from January 15th to the 21st?

Do they believe in the death penalty for anyone who curses God?

Do they believe in an eye for an eye?

Do they believe that those who kneeled before the Ten Commandments monument in Alabama violated God's will?

[Hippo_Tron]

15. Or even better...

How about that little thing in the constitution about seperation of church and state.

[HFishbine]

16. Oh, yeah

Well, there's that too. But people who quote Leviticus somehow don't seem to put much stock in the Constitution.

[mrfrapp]

19. It's easy to refute....

... but it's still a dumb argument and disturbingly prevalent.

[Clark Can WIN]

24. Thanks for the Leviticus rediculous list

We like. We keep.

[leesa]

36. Good answer. They select and choose whichever passages

support their bias.

[jag-wire]

7. Re: Absurd arguments ...

Repub: "But if you allow gay marriage, whats next? Man marries monkey? Woman marries 3 men, 2 sea anemones, and a wildebeast?"


By the way, this is my first post. Registered Democrat living DEEP in Bob Boudelang country near Pensacola, Fl.

[MasonJar]

9. Welcome

Welcome. That is a great post.

[prolesunited]

14. Welcome to DU, jag-wire!

:hi:

May you find an oasis here. How did you find us?

[HFishbine]

20. Welcome Jag

I'll bet it's in your neck of the woods where that anemone sex is a problem too, huh?

[Clark Can WIN]

25. WELCOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:grouphug: :loveya: :toast:

[neebob]

8. You hear the frightwingers talking about God a lot

but there's an underlying financial issue with companies having to extend health care and other benefits to their gay employees' partners. Then there are a lot of legal decisions that have to be financed. And in general I think it just upsets their whole fifties-based definition of how everything is supposed to be.

[diamond14]

10. reTHUGlican smear campaign against gay people....(link)

Virginia

Loudoun Supervisor Invokes Rival's Sexual Orientation

By Michael Laris
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 31, 2003; Page B06


Loudoun County Supervisor Eugene A. Delgaudio, the executive director of an anti-gay lobbying group, has sent a series of campaign letters implying that his openly gay opponent is dangerous.

The campaign letters resemble fundraising appeals Delgaudio has sent out since becoming head of the lobbying group Public Advocate of the United States in 1981. Delgaudio has spent millions of dollars on a nationwide campaign that vilifies and ridicules gays as pedophiles and deviants.

One year before his success the 1999 election, in which he faced no opponent, Delgaudio sent a letter seeking funds to fight gay adoption. You'll see men hand-in-hand skipping down to adoption centers to 'pick out' a little boy for themselves," he wrote.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44908-2003Oct30.html

[Devlzown]

11. Marriage is for procreation.

Are childless couples really married?

[Vogon_Glory]

29. I Remember a Schafly Quote

I remember reading that Phyllis Schafly once proposed denying Social Security benefits for childless HETEROSEXUAL couples.

[leesa]

37. That's a classic. So if you are not trying to conceive but you have sex,

you are breaking God's law. Lot's of guilty married lawbreakers out there...like everyone!

[lastliberalintexas]

12. That a homosexual marriage

(or civil union) can't produce children.

Huh? So my 8 year hetero marriage was also wrong because we had no intention of having children? (I say was rather than is only because we've since had an oops- that we're happy about, just wasn't intended :) )

Sadly, many of the pseudo-Christians apparently believe that procreation is the only reason for marriage (and even sex, but that's a whole different thread).

[Selwynn]

13. Homosexuality is an abomination and we should make no laws

..that support this "sin"

I try so hard to be calm and be more mature - I try to let my actions be more and more motivated by compassion instead of anger...

But when I hear stuff like that, it makes me hate this people so much.. I hate the hate they spew out, and I hate what they've done to my religion - how they've made it so I feel like I have to apologize for calling myself religious... I makes me so angry I could just scream.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

17. "It's wrong because..."

"if a married same-sex couple adopts children, the children will be 'confused' and will be ridiculed by their peers."

People who use this excuse are also the ones who continue to stigmatize homosexuality, so the idea that children will be mocked for growing up in a homosexual household is basically a self-fulfilling prophecy - they make a sort of appeal on behalf of the children, but then say "But - we don't want them to think homosexuality's normal!" That's why this is one of the excuses that bothers me most.

Furthermore, they're afraid the children will be "converted" by living in a gay household. After all, if we let them marry, it would be ACCEPTABLE, and soon all the little boys would be playing with each other's poopers and we'd bring the wrath of God upon us for allowing such a thing to happen.

:eyes:

[rucky]

18. Special Rights

Bubba doesn't think home-sexials should get any "special rights" just cuz they chooze to be gay.

[LeahMira]

21. It undermines the institution of marriage...

I don't get it, but so they say.

[Philosophy]

32. I don't get this one either

Is the implication that married heterosexual couples will be induced to divorce because they see a compelling new alternative?

[mitchum]

22. "...not Adam and Steve" is the top adsurdity because wingnuts

consider it high wit

[Clark Can WIN]

23. The stupidest one I've heard

Is that it "degrades" my heterosexual marraige and my family. My husband and I are the only ones who can DEGRADE our marriage.

As for my family, they can keep their *****&^%$# noses out of it.

[Padraig18]

26. Sorry, I'm too busy 'converting' their sons...

:evilgrin: :P

[Vogon_Glory]

28. Why Should I be forced to accept their marriage as legitimate--Remember t

Whenever right-wingers trot out their argument as to why they should accept gays' union as legitimate, they should be reminded that not so very long ago various Christian denominations not only refused to recognize marriages made by other religions as legitimate, but also refused to even see marriages made by other Christian denominations as legitimate.

Personally, I think my fellow heterosexuals could do better to shore up heterosexual marriages by working on relationship and money-management issues than to worry about gays and lesbians practicing monogamy.

[election_2004]

30. "same-sex marriage serves no productive benefit to society"

And we all know how much public good that "holy union" between Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley did for our country...

[Mz Pip]

31. The greatest threat to Western Civilization

I heard some wacko from "Concerned Women for America" come out with some such nonsense.

Sorry sweety but Global Warming is a far bigger threat to Western Civilization than if the two guys down the street get married.

MzPip
:dem:

[vernon_nackulus]

33. The Bible says Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.

LOL. That's my favorite.

:wtf:

[Festivito]

34. Can conjoined twins marry one or two people?

Amazing to me is that marriage should be about SEX to persons who rarely discuss sex, and it's NOT about LOVE to these same persons that draw their "truth" from a book about a God of love.

[Skittles]

35. HOMOS JUST WANT MARRIAGE SO

THEY CAN ADOPT CHILDREN. AND WE ALL KNOW HOMOSEXUALITY = PEDOPHILIA. :puke:

[karlschneider]

38. It's just, so...icky.

:D

I really hope I don't need the </sarcasm> disclaimer.......

[MrPrax]

39. "When the Bible is ruled unconstitutional"

then 'we have to defend our religion'...
honest rap...from a fundie
And he did mean Guns and killing folks that disagreed with him

[BiggJawn]

40. "Because Marriage means FAMILY, and that means CHILDREN...

...And Homos can't have children!" In fact, I heard that one just yesterday on Freakin' NPR, of all places (go pound sand for donations, you propaganda Ho's)

Bullshit. I know several gay men and women who either by closing their eyes real tight or getting the turkey baster out have managed to creat beautiful children for each other.

And what about us STR8 re-treads? My GF's fresh out of Estrogen and Eggs, and neither one of us want to be dealing with teenagers when we're pushing 70 anyway.

Do we not deserve to get married, either? I'd LOVE to ask one of these RW asholes that. What about our widowed parents? Don't THEY deserve ahppiness in their last years?