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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:07 AM
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Do The Candidates Use Stools To Even Out Height?
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Ain't that just the cutest thing?
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:12 AM
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1. about your signature, the one you had 5 minutes ago?
who was running as an outsider?
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:15 AM
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2. From the camera perspective Kerry looks 8 feet tall.
*NM*
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:21 AM
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5. I don't think that it was Kerry
He isn't abrasive, nasty or rude enough to call a "fellow Democrat" a cockroach.

My candidate(Kucinich) probably is enough of a boat rocker to say something like that but the person described in his signature gave the impression that they are not part of the House or Senate.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:18 AM
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4. It Was A Passing Whim
But I decided (wisely, I hope) there's enough negativity on this board without me contributing everytime I post. But if you'd like a follow up, here's the source:

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I realize that Howard Dean is running as an outsider, taking on "Washington politicians," and promising to "shake things up" in DC. That being said, Dean has also surrounded himself with key Washington insiders such as Joe Trippi and Steve Grossman, and all the while, has been reaching out to Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill for support and endorsements. It's a fine line to walk. This week, it's a line Dean stumbled over clumsily.

In Iowa on Tuesday, a potential voter asked Dean how he would handle entrenched Beltway bureaucracy. As the New York Times reported, the Iowan "mentioned Republicans and Democrats alike, and Dr. Dean made no distinction." Dean responded that if he won the presidency, lawmakers in Congress were "going to be scurrying for shelter, just like a giant flashlight on a bunch of cockroaches."

Cockroaches? Running as an outsider is one thing, comparing members of Congress -- including his fellow Democrats -- to cockroaches is something else entirely.

Apparently, the comment wasn't well received by congressional Dems. Roll Call reported yesterday that the cockroach comparison has "caused reverberations on Capitol Hill." Rep. David Obey (D-Wis.), the ranking member of the Appropriations Committee and a Gephardt supporter, said, "Governor Dean has had some very big things wrong for a long time."

A Democratic leadership aide added that "in Howard Dean's world there has been no one fighting against the Republicans until he opposed the Iraq resolution." Another Dem aide said the comment may ultimately hurt his congressional outreach. "No self-respecting member of the minority can read Howard Dean's comments about a 'go along and get along' attitude and not be pissed off," the aide said.

As he's done before, Dean was apparently embarrassed by his own words and began to backpedal. The New York Times reported Wednesday that Dean later described the cockroach remark as "a bad line" that he shouldn't have used.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/000763.html
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:29 AM
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8. he is an outsider?????
Now that is funny:D

The DLC staged a fake tug of war with him and made a lot of noise. Too bad, it was nothing but a lot of noise. There was nothing of any substance or any value in it.
Kerry is way way outclassed in the slimyness department by that piece of work.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 04:06 AM
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17. On the DLC vs. Dean
Dean Statement in Response to DLC's Charge that Public Servants are "Fringe Activists"

“Once again, the DLC has chosen to put their own political agenda ahead of the progress needed to unite the Democratic Party. This election has barely begun, and the DLC has repeatedly dismissed people who attend caucuses, who get out the vote, and now the 1.3 million members of AFSCME as ‘fringe activists’ who do not reflect ‘the mainstream values, national pride and the economic aspirations of middle-class and working people.’

“The DLC staff can say what they want about me, but they owe an apology to the 1.3 million members of AFSCME. Our teachers, our health care workers, and our state and local public servants don't need a lesson from Washington insiders about the needs and concerns of middle- and working-class families. What they need is a Democratic Party that will stand up for them.”

Posted by Mathew Gross at 04:27 PM
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000206.html

Tell From and Reed of the DLC What You Think
Click here to sign a letter to the Democratic Leadership Council telling them that you're an active Democrat who supports Howard Dean. You can tell your friends about the link, too: www.deanforamerica.com/DLC

Posted by Mathew Gross at 01:29 AM
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000240.html

Fineman on the DLC Memo
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000213.html

Former DNC-Chief Steve Grossman to DLC: "Creating Conflict is Not Leadership."
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000225.html

Liberal Oasis on Howard Dean and the DLC
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000226.html

Will the Real DLC Please Stand Up?
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000228.html

Congressional Members Call on DLC to Stop Divisive Tactics
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000238.html

Activists Are Out of Step
By Al From and Bruce Reed
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251866&kaid=85&subid=65

The Real Soul of the Democratic Party
By Al From and Bruce Reed
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251690&kaid=127&subid=900056
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:16 AM
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3. I would assume they use raised platforms
much like Dukakis used in the '88 debates against Bush.

Sheesh, I had no idea Kerry was that tall. He may not win the nomination, but I want him on my basketball team.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:30 AM
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9. :D
LoL
Platform shoes would be cool.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:32 AM
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11. Nah...
Kerry is a hockey man. :)
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:22 AM
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6. Is she really holding a marble-cover notebook?!
Carol, now I totally love you!

Are she and Joe the only ones with paper notes?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:24 AM
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7. Candidate Heights (in case anyone was wondering)
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 01:26 AM by elperromagico
Kerry: 6'4"
Gephardt: 6'1"
Edwards: 6'0" (approx)
Sharpton: 5'11" (approx)
Clark 5’10
Dean: 5´9" (approx)
Lieberman 5'8"
Kucinich 5'7"
Moseley Braun 5'4" (approx)

Apparently these are rough estimates. It doesn't seem to me that the photos bear these estimates out.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:30 AM
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10. 7 Inches Between Kerry And Dean
Now there's a title for a post!

I'd like to know the difference between Kerry and Bush. I could just imagine Bush having to stand next to Kerry for photos!!!

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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:33 AM
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12. Bush is 5'11"
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 01:37 AM by elperromagico
Another site claims he's 6 feet even. Still another claims he's 6'2"...

I'm stickin' with 5'11"
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:35 AM
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13. So He Sees Eye To Eye With Sharpton
I knew it!
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:39 AM
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14. Don't be silly
Bush would never look Al Sharpton in the eye.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 02:16 AM
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15. He can't even tell the truth about his height
What a putz.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:38 AM
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16. It looks like Kerry's 2 feet taller than everyone else LOL
ROTFL. You really didn't photoshop those?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:03 PM
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18. He looks completely out of place
with all those "shorties," like he had a growth spurt over the summer.
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