realpolitik! How do you know such things? You seem to have great insight

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realpolitik! How do you know such things? You seem to have great insight

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realpolitik (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-22-03 12:03 PM
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20. The Grover is going down

Because he backed the PNAC group in their little coup d'etat.
And the coup is failing, partially because not all republicans have the balls or desire to take the next goose step along with Ashcroft's brownshirts.

There was also s'posed to be a point where Rove got to stop the
spin machine's defensive spinning, and concentrate again on the offensive 'peace for oil' program. That won't happen now unless some big ass WMD get popped in the USA. Preferably by the Saudis.

So now the PNAC boyz are left hanging, without justice being able to deliver on social control, like they promised. Seems there were more libertarians on the right than they thought, and the center started getting more afraid of John than Osama/Saddam. The left is noisily sharpening knives, and smiling enigmatically.

Cheney was supposed to have the intel under control, and does not, or we would have already 'found' WMD in Iraq. L'Affaire Plame has really set the whole intel community against Bush, they bent over and took it for him once over 911, they were not in a mood to do it again, and then the WH outed Plame to threaten Wilson. The PNAC boys in a moment of monumental ego took on State, and the CIA in one stroke.

Rummy was supposed to have Iraq and Afghanistan Stablilized, and Powell was to keep the UN in line. They have both failed miserably.
Alienating the Pentagon and the U.N. with the same gusto that Cheney and Rove have pissed off the CIA. Apperently the only one who is getting the job done is Rice, because she is not in the news.

It is an open secret that the world regards the US/British axis as a threat to world peace. What Rove is no longer able to hide is the fact that the rest of the world is mobilizing to do to us what we did to the Soviet Union-- make us spend our way into oblivion. Bush, because it makes his handlers happy, is a conspiritor to the plot to drown the American Government/Economy in the bathtub. Of course, in the process he and his will get rich as Crassus.

When you are that arrogant and aggressive, people tend to, well... bushwhack you...they eschew direct confrontation, but sniple from the flanks. Our flank, in case no one is paying attention, is the economy.
An additional tax break for the rich is a bridge too far for America. BAD THINGS(tm) will happen, such as the loss of ALL foreign investment in our economy, out of fear of a crash, which will of course deepen the crash. Grover's boyz do not want a crash. Because they remember the last crash, and what came from it.

Grover does not actually want Bush to drown the government in the bathtub, me merely wants it to stay weak enough that it will not fight back when he molests it. Bush will succeed in doing what Grover does not want. Why? Because the Bush administration is full of whores. In our great white father's brothel, there are many johns.

I do not believe that Bush's vast league of enemies (and by no means are the majority of these Democrats) will allow him to sink it much farther before he is impeached, and many of of his followers fall hard from a high place. I wonder if DeLay will be smart enough to save himself by turning on the administration. DeLay is trying to hold the line on Westar, and cannot take it on the chin for the Party, or anyone else.

The whole pantheon against Bush are in rising right now, at the point of greatest infighting among the admin. Politically, George is a dead man walking, and Arnold did not help the admin's popularity any with the true believers. Like the Kata Strophe in a Greek tragedy, hubris has reached the point where the Gods avenge themselves on the Protagonist. Generally, it is greater than the offense, so I would not hang around Dubya without wearing rubber overshoes, even indoors.

Oh, it will look like an accident, but Grover is on Zeus's list too.

Vote Dennis in 04!- It is the best way out of the mess.