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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:36 PM
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i just saw the replay of alan colmes on the 700 club....
...and i don't think he did such a bad job. normally i can't stand listening to alan but he seemed pretty well prepared for this. pat robertson is such a prick tho....despite colmes being kind to pat, he still had to say things like "liberal nonsense", etc.

the one place where i cringed was when colmes said that fox is fair and balanced. i guess he wants to keep his job there. but he should have at least hammered robertson when he called the media the "liberal media".
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:47 PM
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1. I've got no use for colmes

No self-respecting progressive,liberal or moderate would debase himself like he does on "HANNITY and colmes"...
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ogminlo Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:54 PM
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2. Or...
No self-respecting liberal or progressive would lower himself to speak to filth like Robertson.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:54 PM
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3. i agree
nt
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:07 PM
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4. I disagree
I think you should go on Robertson show, because it is not a news show per se.

I think being on the 700 club is more respectable than being on any fox news show.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:10 PM
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5. what?
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 11:11 PM by thebigidea
he advocates the nuclear annihilation of the state department.

robertson is complete trash



but to put Pat and FNC on a scale, its almost impossible to determine who is far greater filth.

I'm joking, of course. To think that would mean that I hate freedom. Anyway, I love Pat Robertson and wish him well as he smears sick God-deprived denizens of the left... oh, those babykillers!

But sweet Alan Colmes... he's the exception - embraced to the Robertsonian bosom.

an image for your nightmares and mine. enjoy.
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E Pluribus Unum Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:11 PM
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6. I agree. The more we get our message out the better.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:12 PM
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7. Alan Colmes works for Rupert Murdoch. he is not "our message"
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 11:18 PM by thebigidea
unless FNC is the message you're promoting.



why the hell is Alan Colmes so goddamn popular around here all the sudden? I hope it wasn't my stupid joking around!
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Sesquipedalian Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:16 PM
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8. he did a piss poor job
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 11:22 PM by Sesquipedalian
Pat hits him at the end with something about Muslim clerics and "Jews descended from monkeys and apes" and Colmes just backed off and blamed "Wahabbi's" for saying these mean things and Pat smirks and says "Their leader Mohammed said that, they were just repeating him". There actually was a context to these comments that dwarfed anything you could find in the Christian dialogue.

I'd love to know what he thought of some of the things his "leader" Martin Luther had to say about Jews. I'd love to know what he had to say about various obvious anti-semitic portions of the new testament and how that squared with him, but Alan just sits there with his thumb up his ass nodding at Pat.

Why is he even there in the first place? What serious leftist would even enter CBC studios? He's a damn joke and he doesn't deserve any sympathy.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:02 AM
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10. great point about the end of the interview.....
...you're right, colmes had nothing to say about that. i agree that colmes is lame...i can't stand to see him on hannity and colmes and i hate the way he sucks up to the fox network. i just actually thought he came off as rational and intelligent in his interview by robertson and that robertson came off looking like the moronic, bigoted, uncompassionate, partisan prick that he is.
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Sesquipedalian Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:19 AM
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11. I'm not saying he doesn't
I'm just saying that when it comes to making a real point and trying to be the "voice of reason" to conservatives he makes an unfortunate choice.

He spent half the interview being an advocate of "smaller government" and lambasting the republican record on these subjects. This is something various libertarian's would be on safe ground doing. Why is the "liberal" trying to gain ground on this?
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:48 AM
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16. Who's not for smaller government?
Frankly, I think the government should stop wasting my money, and while I support most of the liberal social programs, we need to kill dead the idea that the government can solve all your problems.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 01:04 AM
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21. we need to kill dead the idea that the sick should be treated
what would Franken's Supply Side Jesus do?

he'd walk hand in hand with Alan Colmes and kick every last retarded individual out of the hospitals and get them WORKING...

with us or against us, oh Amen.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:59 PM
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9. Colmes is like the woman who seeks out men who will beat her
I've known a few of those.

They need serious therapy.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:34 AM
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12. Colmes has admitted he is no Liberal or Democrat- links included
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 12:36 AM by Dr Fate
When USA Today asked about his political ideology, the "liberal" co-host of Hannity and Colmes – Fox's answer to CNN's Crossfire – replied, "I'm quite moderate." This, in contrast, to co-host Sean Hannity, a self-proclaimed "staunch-conservative," a protégé of Newt Gingrich and the host of his own conservative radio talk show.

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12924


" he isn't a party-animal; he voted for Giuliani."

http://www.leisuresuit.net/Webzine/articles/alan_colmes.shtml

His own admission as well as his vote proves he is no Liberal, or even a good party DEM...

This is how the pro-Bush media works- they have a moderate debating with a Republican- instead of a Liberal or a Democrat-

...a real debate does not pit a "moderate" who often agrees with republicans against an outright republican...but who said that the pro-Bush media was ever concerned with real debate anyway?

oh well- thats the "Liberal Media" that I've heard so much about...

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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:41 AM
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13. I like Alan,
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 12:51 AM by lib4life
but he does have the tendency to be a bit too passive (I'm the same way but I'm not a pundit), and his support of the Fox party line is regrettable (but understandable considering how he'd be fired in a heartbeat if he dared to speak out.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:44 AM
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14. and what would be so horrible about being fired from fox?
he could wear it like a badge of honor and hit the top 10 with a tell all book on how fox works from the inside.

come into the light, colmes.

repent!
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:54 AM
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17. It'd be more effective to work from the inside
Alan is the only liberal voice on that network, except for maybe Geraldo, who is a joke and a half. Perhaps he's trying to remain as the one liberal voice that keeps Fox from sinking totally into the abyss..

Or hell, they're already there. Maybe he is just a tool.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 01:01 AM
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19. of course he's a tool
the strings on this one could snap in a stiff breeze.



he's no liberal, it would be naive and/or hasty to judge him so.

Fox isn't in the abyss?

are you saying that Saint Alan is the only thing that keeps FOX pure, a shining beacon of integrity?



as the Prophet Colmes put it:
"uhhh... err... over to you, Sean."



Glory, Glory Alan Colmes...
his truth keeps whining on.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 01:02 AM
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20. You are mistaken- Colmes insists he is not a Liberal or a Democrat
...please read my other post on this thread that includes links...

He is by no means our "man on the inside"- he is an admitted "Moderate" who has no trouble voting GOP (and thus strengthening their influence)and has the GALL to say that the pro-Bush,pro War FOX news is "Fair & Balanced" with a straight face...

Just what kind of "work" do you think he is doing from the "inside", besides getting pistol whipped by Hannity everynight? His only response to Sean's abuse is to cover his bruises with blush!!!

As you said, Sean is "passsive" and therefore useless as an advocate for LIBERAL (yes Alan, many of us party-voting DEMS are still not ashamed of that word like you "moderates" are)issues...

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:48 AM
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15. In other words, he is useless...
...we dont need a "journalist" on our side who is more worried about keeping his job at Fox than reporting the truth...he has zero personality and being Hannity's punching bag is the only gig he could ever hope for...

"passive" and "avocate" are two concepts that could not be more opposite- therfore Colmes is absolutly useless...

...read my other post on this thread- he admits he is not even a real Liberal or a Democrat!!!
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 12:56 AM
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18. I didn't see that, but I did catch
the last couple minutes of Colmes on The Factor. O'Really asked him who he supported for President, and after he kissed some major ass by suggesting he'd vote for O'Really if he ran, he said he liked Clark (I think) and Gephardt but basically refused to pick a candidate. Then he said "we" are not engaged or ready to think about it yet. He's a total schmuck.
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