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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:39 PM
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DNC Fact Check: President Bush Said We Can't Win (Caught in another lie)
Fact Check: President Bush Said We Can't Win
December 8, 2005
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Washington, DC - The RNC got it wrong. Today, they falsely claimed that President Bush has always predicted victory in the War on Terror, and argued in a release that "President Bush Never Said We Couldn't Win." In fact, last summer, on the first day of his convention, President Bush told Matt Lauer on NBC's "Today Show" that he didn't think "we can win it."


NBC, "The Today Show", 8/30/04
MATT LAUER: You said to me a second ago, one of the things you'll lay out in your vision for the next four years is how to go about winning the war on terror. That phrase strikes me a little bit. Do you really think we can win this war of ter--on terror? For example, in the next four years?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I have never said we can win it in four years.

MATT LAUER: No, I'm just saying, can we win it? Do you say that?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I don't--I don't think we can win it.



New York Times Headline:"Bush Cites Doubt America Can Win War on Terror." "President Bush, in an interview broadcast on Monday, said he did not think America could win the war on terror but that it could make terrorism less acceptable around the world, a departure from his previous optimistic statements that the United States would eventually prevail."

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/12/fact_check_pres.php
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:43 PM
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1. mega KICK
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:46 PM
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2. and another....
:kick:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:48 PM
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3. Recommended
and kicked
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:49 PM
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4. I remember him saying it but not from the MSM...from DU I imagine.
:eyes:
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:50 PM
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5. Incredible..

"I don't think we can win it, because that's the template we'll use for the next 50 years to justify interventions all over the place!"

:eyes:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:21 PM
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6. Video: Bush, ``I don't think you can win it' (3:40 into video)
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 08:28 PM by ProSense
"I think I'm gonna win Ohio" (2:20) `I don't think you can win it' (3:40)


VIDEO:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5865710


FLIP FLOP one day later:

Bush clarifies view on war against terrorism
'We will win,' just not in conventional way, he says

NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 11:52 a.m. ET Aug. 31, 2004
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Seeking to quell controversy and Democratic criticism over his earlier remark that victory against terrorism may not be possible, President Bush said Tuesday “we will win” the war.

In a speech to the national convention of the American Legion, Bush said, “We meet today in a time of war for our country, a war we did not start yet one that we will win.

“In this different kind of war, we may never sit down at a peace table,” Bush said. “But make no mistake about it, we are winning and we will win.”

Those statements differed from Bush’s earlier comment to NBC News that “I don’t think you can win” the war on terror. "But I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world.”

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:57 PM
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7. Bush: guessing his way through another stolen term. n/t
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:15 PM
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10. After getting that pointer, clipped just that part- VIDEO
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:03 PM
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8. Kick and so nominated n/t
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:15 PM
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9. Where is that media list we used to have around here at DU, anyway?
This should be sent to ALL of the media. I already sent it to KO, with suggestions on the delightful montage that could be made. :)

Does anyone know where that list has gone?

Recommended.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:06 PM
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11. Those fools constantly lie on tape. If the Corporate Media were
to run all the lies in a way that highlighted the discrepancies it would hands down prove that the crooks in the WH are nothing but liars.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:16 PM
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12. So will this get equal time with Dean's statement? We need to make sure
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 10:17 PM by cantstandbush
it does. At least Dean should give it equal time and chide those who rebuked him.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:39 PM
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13. Love Lauer's Freudian slip: "this war of ter...on terror"
He had it right the first time.
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