they lied like hell about the war but we're to believe them about 9-11?

[mopaul]

they lied and lied and lied about the war and every other thing and have been caught chronically lying, yet, we're supposed to accept the official white house story on 9-11? we can agree that they are congenital liars, but we disagree about the truth surrounding 9-11.

if you can accept the fact that they lied us into war, why can't you also accept the fact that they lied about nine eleven and every thing since?

come on, they are liars through and through on virtually every subject, yet this subject gets the truth seal of approval? why?

if they told me the sun was coming up tomorrow i wouldn't believe it.

[marmar]

1. "if they told me the sun was coming up tomorrow i wouldn't believe it"

De acuerdo, mi hermano!

Everything that we've ever been told by this group is suspect.

:think:

They came into office with an agenda, and they would have done whatever to carry it out.

:scared:

[unpossibles]

2. good point

While I don't 100% buy some of the more outrageous theories/explanations, some of them are as or more credible than the official story.

At the very least, I call it LIHOP, although looking at historic links between the alleged perpetrators and the CIA/DOD I wonder sometimes if they made it happen. This is not to say that what people saw/claim is not legit - they could very well have made it happen with little more than what they claim as the official line.

How can you tell when a NeoCon is lying about something? They're breathing. I've yet to see one who is honest. Not saying all republicans or all conservatives are dishonest, just the current thugs running (ruining) the show. I was looking at the list of Republican politicians who are under investigation, and it is SERIESLY HUGH! And scary/sad - a lot of sexual assault, statutory rape, and impropriety to go along with the more common tax fraud/money laundering/lying/cheating.

[Al-CIAda]

3. In fact, their very first act was a lie. Recall the 'w's' being removed

from all the keyboards in the WH, along with the 'trashing' of the place?

Lie.

[Tuesday_Morning]

4. What haven't they lied about? n/t

[indepat]

5. Everything, absolutely their entire agenda, is a big lie for all of us to

see.

[wiggs]

6. Amazing that they are given any slack

Remember, maybe two months ago, when it was discovered that someone in Dept of Interior was caught editing scientific reports regarding grazing? A committee had concluded that grazing harms habitat (paraphrased). The fellow in question (former lobbyist of course) altered their conclusions to read that grazing DOES NOT harm habitat. Naturally, he quit and returned to work for the industry he had been regulating.

Similar altering (lying) has gone on in this government as a matter of course regarding global warming, pollution, birth control pills, logging, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, etc.

One incident should be enough to make headlines and spur investigations. Why, over and over, do we find out about these and then never hear about them again? Why doesn't the media and 35% of the public get it? THESE ARE GROSS ABUSES!

[MissWaverly]

16. I read a former federal employee say labor stats "Tainted"

There is no area where the books are not cooked in this administration and now Condi has the nerve to tell Europe we don't torture so get over it. What I find hard to believe is why so many believe that these 2000, 2002 and 2004 elections have not been a lie. There is nothing about the last 5 years that has not been a lie. Remember Jeff Gannon with access to the White House pressroom for 2 years with no credentials.

[fenderbender89]

7. Hitler lied and blamed the burning of the Reichstag on the Jews...

...and look where it took Germany. Bush blamed al Queda for September 11, and look where we have ended up. The frozen plains of the Soviet Union have been replaced by the deserts of the Middle East. Coincidence?

[Old and In the Way]

47. Hitler manufactured the causus belli to start the invasion of Poland 1939

From http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa090399.htm

After having gained both Austria and Czechoslovakia, Hitler was confident that he could again move east, this time acquiring Poland without having to fight Britain and France. (To eliminate the possibility of the Soviet Union fighting if Poland were attacked, Hitler made a pact with the Soviet Union - the Nazi-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact.)

So that Germany did not officially seem the aggressor (which it was), Hitler needed an excuse for entering/attacking Poland. It was Heinrich Himmler who came up with the idea; thus the plan was code named Operation Himmler.

On the night of August 31, 1939, Nazis took an unknown prisoner from one of their concentration camps, dressed him in a Polish uniform, took him to the town of Gleiwitz (on the border of Poland and Germany), and then shot him. The staged scene with the dead prisoner dressed in a Polish uniform was supposed to appear as a Polish attack against a German radio station.

Hitler used the staged attack as the excuse to invade Poland.

[helderheid]

8. And we're supposed to think they'll not rig elections?

They don't give a rats ass about democracy.

[Beam Me Up]

28. Oh, but they DO give a rats ass about it. They truly hate it.

Democracy, to them, means sharing power--and that is one thing they will fight, deceptively, as long as they live.

[helderheid]

30. good point

[corbett]

9. Best Tool To Spread The Truth

https://secure.reopen911.org/freedvd.php

[SeveneightyWhoa]

10. Of course they lied.

The question is, how far do the lies go, and what truth are the lies meant to hide?

[babsbunny]

11. Ck This Out!

www.reopen911.org

[Mutley]

12. It is very difficult to accept that it could be that bad in America.

We are fed the notion all throughout childhood that America is some sort of saint-like nation, superior to all others, and most swallow it. America is supposed to be salvation for the world's poor, tired, and huddled masses longing to be free. I know I used to believe that.

Never before has there been evidence that the government is THAT corrupt, that it would sacrifice the lives of thousands of innocent civilian Americans for their own money/power/prestige/wtf ever it is they want. We are taught from birth that that sort of thing goes on anywhere but here, which is a very difficult belief to let go of.

I know I'm coming to accept that, but it's been hard. Very hard. I'm positive it's much harder for those less cynical than me.

[pberq]

13. Getting the truth about 9/11 out is the #1 priority - K&R

Here is a page of videos by speakers (including Col. Bowman) from the DC Emergency Truth Convergence that happened this past July:

http://truthemergency.us/pages/VideoAudio.html

Here are some thoughts after reading David Ray Griffin's books:

The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is not supported by the facts as widely reported.

I suggest that everyone read Griffin's two books, and especially "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions".

It does not take an expert to understand that the official story is bogus and the 9/11 Commission Report is a whitewash.

Here is a small sample of what Griffin reports about the omissions and distortions of the 9/11 Commission Report:

1. Issues regarding the alleged hijackers:
a. no investigation into the reports that six of the 19 alleged hijackers turned up alive after 9/11;
b. no investigation into the reports of boozing and whoring by hijackers who were supposedly devout Muslims;
c. no investigation into the reports that clues about Atta were planted.
d. no investigation into the reports that Hani Hanjour, supposedly the pilot of AA 77, was totally inept as a pilot
e. Most importantly – there is little publicly available evidence that the 19 alleged hijackers were actually on the flights.

2. The WTC collapses – all I can say is read Griffin’s chapter on this and decide for yourself. At the very least, the official story is full of holes, especially regarding WTC7.

3. The Pentagon strike – two points:
a. What about the Pentagon’s anti-missile system? Either the aircraft that hit the Pentagon had a military transponder, or somebody disabled the system.
b. What about the videos? Why did the FBI confiscate the videos?

4. The behavior of Bush and the Secret Service on 9/11
a. no investigation into the failure of the Secret Service to protect the President while the country was under attack. Did they know he was not a target?

5. Advance warning of the attacks
a. The Commission basically ignored most reports that there was widespread and specific advance knowledge about the attacks – including insider trading, FBI reports, warning to Ashcroft to stop flying commercial planes, the many warnings from foreign governments, etc, etc.

I hope Mr. Griffin doesn’t mind me posting a few paragraphs from p. 51 of his book:

“Ashcroft and David Schippers

“This is, moreover, not the only omission about reports suggesting that the FBI had rather specific advance information about the attacks. Two days after 9/11, Attorney David Schippers publicly declared that over six weeks prior to 9/11, FBI agents had given him information about attacks planned for "lower Manhattan." This information, Schippers claimed, was highly specific, including the dates, the targets, and the funding sources of the terrorists. Schippers said further that the FBI field agents told him that their investigations had been curtailed by FBI headquarters, which threatened the agents with prosecution if they went public with their information. Finally—to get to the part of Schippers' claim that is most relevant to our present concern—he reported that six weeks prior to 9/11, he tried to warn Attorney General Ashcroft about the attacks, but that Ashcroft would not return his calls.

“One might suspect, of course, that the Attorney General's office was receiving all sorts of crank calls and that people in the office ignored the calls from Schippers because they assumed that it was one more of these. David Schippers, however, had been the Chief Investigative Counsel for the US House of Representatives' Judiciary Committee in 1998 and its chief prosecutor for the impeachment of President Clinton in 1999. He should have, accordingly, been both well known and well respected in Republican circles.

“We would assume, then, that the Commission would have asked Ashcroft about the claims publicly made by Schippers. Did Ashcroft know about his calls? If so, why did he not return them? But we find no sign in the Commissions report that these questions were asked.”

Griffin goes on to note that there is not one reference to David Schippers in the The 9/11 Commission Report.

5. What about the special relationship between the Bush administration, the Saudi royal family and the bin Laden family?
a. no investigation into the reports of OBL’s visit to the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001.
b. no investigation into the reports of Saudi advance knowledge of 9/11.
c. no investigation into the reports of Saudi funding of al-Qaeda

6. What about allegations that FBI headquarters blocked investigations that might have prevented 9/11 or, post 9/11, shed light on who carried out the attacks. Here the Commission clearly engaged in damage control, distorting or omitting important parts of this issue.

7. What about the considerable evidence pointing to involvement of Pakistan and its ISI in 9/11?
a. The report makes no mention of General Mahmoud Ahmad’s visit to Washington from Sept. 4 to several days after 9/11, or his breakfast meeting with Porter Goss and Bob Graham on the morning of 9/11. Most important is that is makes no mention of reports that Ahmad ordered one of his ISI agents to wire $100,000 to Mohamed Atta.


The above is only a small sample of some of the points raised by Griffin in his book on the 9/11 Commission. Again, it does not take an expert in engineering to see that, at the very least, there has been a large coverup of who was behind 9/11 and of what really happened that day.

[Nothing Without Hope]

31. Excellent post. Thank you.

[texpatriot2004]

14. They lied about 9-11 too nm

[TallahasseeGrannie]

15. But here's a question...

is it just Bushco that did the lying? Or is it more bipartisan? For example, just what did Sandy Berger have in his pants?

I'm not looking for an argument because I just raise the question and look forward to opinions.

It is government, in general, that is corrupt or just this government?

[90-percent]

17. OBL

What authority established that AL Quaida and OBL did this in the first place?

-85%

[suegeo]

21. What organization trained OBL in the first place?

x

[Lydia Leftcoast]

25. I remember that they had those guys identified in record time!

Not only that--the Patriot Act, hundreds of pages of legalese, was ready to go to Committee less than a month after 9/11 (10/5).

There is no way they could have had the Patriot Act ready to go by 10/5 unless they had at least had its provisions sketched out beforehand. (So said a retired law professor acquaintance who had advised state legislatures on drafting bills.)


But what first got me thinking was the Bushboy's non-reaction to the news of planes crashing into the World Trade Center.

Everyone else in the country was in utter shock.

This lack of reaction was akin to Bush Sr's professed inability to remember where he was when Kennedy was shot.

[Nothing Without Hope]

32. Not only that, but they "found" one of the "terrorist's" passports in the

rubble! Now remember, the plane passengers and the hijackers were suppposed to have perished in the powerful collision and subsequent flames, and the extent and pileup of the rubble afterwards make such a miraculous find even less possible.

And we are supposed to BELIEVE this? It speaks badly of the US people that even with the lying, compiant corporate press, this and all the other blatant lies were swallowed hook, line and sinker.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

64. Isn't that remarkably similar to the speed with which Oswald's data...

...appeared in the media? And Sirhan Sirhan's? And James Earl Ray's?

And what are we to make now of the "information" we were given before Desert Storm?

How about what we were told about GHWB's former "business partner" Norriega just prior to invading Panama?

How about the Tonkin Gulf Incident?

How about Pearl Harbor?

How about the sinking of the USS Maine?

Some rightwingers like to pretend that John Wilkes Booth acted alone, but the hanging of some of his co-conspirators says otherwise. Ultra-rightwing Secretary of War Stanton took a lot of secrets to the grave, including what he knew about Lincoln's killing.

The major constant in all of these events is the fact that they were all cooked in the same rightwing pot.

[Old and In the Way]

51. Let's not amp the RW smear of Berger......

He put handwritten notes in his pant pockets and took copies, not original documents, of memo's he authored.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200407230001

[hack89]

68. Of course planning took place during the Clinton administration..

it must have taken years to plan something of this magnitude. And don't forget that many Clinton appointees were still in administration on 9/11.

I would say it is corrupt government in general.

[Al-CIAda]

18. "This war on terrorism is bogus"

A classic piece...

This war on terrorism is bogus

The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination

Michael Meacher
Saturday September 6, 2003
The Guardian


Massive attention has now been given - and rightly so - to the reasons why Britain went to war against Iraq. But far too little attention has focused on why the US went to war, and that throws light on British motives too. The conventional explanation is that after the Twin Towers were hit, retaliation against al-Qaida bases in Afghanistan was a natural first step in launching a global war against terrorism. Then, because Saddam Hussein was alleged by the US and UK governments to retain weapons of mass destruction, the war could be extended to Iraq as well. However this theory does not fit all the facts. The truth may be a great deal murkier.

We now know that a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush's younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank, Project for the New American Century (PNAC).
The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says "while the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

Con't-
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html

[milkyway]

19. All their propaganda is so blatant that only the mentally defective (Fox

viewers) actually believe it. Yet we're supposed to believe the official story of 9/11 that was already in place that afternoon?

The corporate media looked the other way in the lead-up to the attempted conquest of Iraq; they were even more compliant in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.

The person that blows the lid off the 9/11 coverup will be the greatest American hero of the 21st century.

[MellowOne]

20. Many airline industry people say it had to be an inside job n/t

[sabra]

22. considering every speech of Bushco has the phrase: "September 11th 2001.."

Kerry thinks that 9/11 gave * the 2004 win, kind of revealing isn't it?

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. Count me as a MIHOPer! I wouldn't believe them if they told me it was

raining! I'd have to see it for myself! I swear to whatever, on the morning of 9/11, I said bush had everything to do with the attacks. It was my first thought and I have never backed down from that belief!

[Mme. Defarge]

66. Although I predicted,

after Bush & Co. took power in 2001, that there would be an event that would dramatically curtail our civil liberties, I simply couldn't get my mind around the idea that they would commit mass murder of American citizens in the twin towers.

My first clue that something was fishy was when they rather too conveniently found Mohamed Atta's suitcase with warm and fuzzy instructions to his fellow suicidal hijackers. This was just days after 9/11.

Then, looking back, I have finally come to realize that what I thought I saw on television the morning of 9/11 was what I actually DID see. When I tuned in, Peter Jennings was on Good Morning America talking about something I couldn't understand. In the background was a single skyscraper that looked like it was from a scene in the movie "Towering Inferno." I couldn't tell that it was NYC, because, by that time, there was only one tower. Then, the lone building imploded. I instantly assumed that what I saw was a planned demolition that was being televised, like others I had seen. Early on, I erased that thought from my head and accepted the official explanation. Now, it has come back to haunt me.

[leesa]

24. I know. It's amazing to me that people swallow that nonsensical story

Muslim hijackers with box cutters, miraculous finding of the alleged leader's passport in the rubble, the magical disappearance of the black boxes, the magical no-show of our air defense, etc, etc...

People STILL actually believe this nonsense of OBL and his Fantasy Team of Marauders!

Why? Just because the liars in the WH said so!

[gulfcoastliberal]

26. Hell, we can't even agree that these incompetent liars cannot manage the

troops and that if we bring them home now, alive, that Iraq will somehow get worse. Some buy the neocon "terra breeding ground" line - WTF is it now? How many more IEDs must it take to show the terrorists are already there and in full swing? Those who are against bringing the troops home somehow forget how utterly ineffective these liars are. Iraq is in civil war, we couldn't stopit and by killing innocents we're a huge recruiting boon to terrorists. I just don't get it. Murtha knows what he's talking about - chickenhawks like Lieberman and Clinton don't!!

[Clara T]

27. Many NY firemen know "something"

blew the place up. Just simple hard working knowledgeable guys who've attended numerous fires and were witness to the event.

[Me.]

36. Ads Have Been Running In NYC

calling for the re-opening of the 9-11 investigation. In the ads they address the issue of explosions and ask why Tower 7 went down as it did. I too am amazed that this thread has, so far, remained in GD.

[mirandapriestly]

29. It's CRAZY that people believe the RIDICULOUS official 9-11 story. NT

[Nothing Without Hope]

33. This is the first thread on 9/11 I've seen REMAIN in General Discussion

instead of being whisked away in the 9/11 forum closet, where nothing can be voted onto the Greatest page. (Try it and you get an error message that posts in that forum can't be voted on.)

Is the DU censorship regimen on 9/11 beginning to ease? What's next? Will we actually be able to talk about Israel?

[democraticinsurgent]

44. Hear Hear!

Kicked and nominated. And kudos to DU administrators for letting this out of the "basement". This is the BIG missing link that, if we are really lucky, will change America in the direction that we want it changed.

"Since 9/11, everything changed" will mean something really different someday.

Right?

[LunaC]

34. Preaching to the choir here

The link in my sig line describes their nefarious complicity in 911 for anyone who still has doubts.

(That link has been getting quite a few hits lately so my thanks go out to everyone digging for the Truth then passing it on!)

[Independent_Liberal]

35. 9/11 is the achilles heel of the Bush regime.

The one thing that's as deadly to BushCo as Kryptonite is to Superman is the truth of 9/11.

[Beam Me Up]

37. "High treason and conspiracy to commit murder."

"That is the BEST thing you can say about the Bush administration."

Statement by Dr. Robert Bowman, Institute of Space and Security Studies.

Edit to ad link to video.

[jackieMN]

38. Pentagon Strike Video

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php. I personally think that the real planes may have escorted the Bin Ladens out of the country - if you saw "Fahrenheit 9-11" you'll know what I mean. I guess they had to stage something to drag us into this so-called war. Just my opinion.

[rumpel]

39. administration also made EPA lie about the contaminants in air and dust

[BamaBecky]

40. Amen!

[ngGale]

41. Pathological liars...

some people just can't stretch their imagination that far.
Mind overload, the US would never lie about 9/11.:sarcasm:

[Swamp Rat]

42. Hell, with all the lies coming from the White House, I'm starting to

think they are capable of ANYTHING... like maybe even flying those planes by remote control right into the WTC and then demolishing them with high explosives. The stories of fire fighters and first hand witnesses are starting to get disseminated, so we shall know the truth someday, hopefully soon.

[Al-CIAda]

43. .

[90-percent]

45. but but but

How did they know so damn fast it was Al Quaida?

Who first announced it was Al Quaida? When was this first mentioned in any news media and who was the source?

Where did they get the info from?

And how can they recover a pristine passport so quickly and loose the black boxes, which are designed to withstand crashes?

Why don't they release the pentagon surveliance video?

-85% Jimmy

[Beam Me Up]

46. 100 %: "They" did it.

Who are "They"? A: The National Security State apparatus.

The three men we can name without doubt who would have to have known in advance and willingly participated are: Vice President Dick Cheney; Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld and then head of NORAD General Ralph E. Eberhart. No doubt others in high-level security positions would also have to have known. Many more, such as pResident George W. Bush and then National Security Advisor, Condoleeza Rice, who would have to have known at least after the fact.

I accuse all of them and unnamed accomplices of high treason against the United States of America and conspiracy to commit murder for the purposes of justifying an illegal and immoral war in the Middle East.

Though the heavens fall.

[ocean girl]

49. I agree totally - they did it

There is no doubt in my mind.

I was convinced when I saw how the WTC turned to dust BEFORE it collapsed. I'll never forget the moment I watched that video and knew the truth.

Thanks to the mods for leaving this on the greatest page. More people need to be aware of the facts of what happened on 9-11, so we can take action.

[No Exit]

48. I, too, have been asking this question

People can go on and on branding questioners as "conspiracy theorists", but asking questions is NOT a sign of "wacko-ness". It is a sign of sanity.

[Pharaoh]

50. and they would not testify under oath at 911 commission!

[Octafish]

52. 'Why Would Osama Want to Kill Dubya, His Business Partner?'

The only thing wrong with the following, besides making fun of bin Laden's flying abilities and the author's death by "suicide," is it was written in JULY 2001:

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield

Editor's note: In light of last week's horrific events and the Bush administration's reaction to them, we are reprising the following from the last column Jim Hatfield wrote for Online Journal prior to his tragic death on July 18:

July 3, 2001—There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

Why would Osama bi Laden want to kill, Dubya, his former business partner?

CONTINUED... (GOOGLE Cache, can't find anymore on original source)...

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:h7_LVL9UFCYJ:www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html+hatfield+osama+dubya&hl=en

So, yes. Absolutely. Bush never opens his mouth without lying about everything.

[Telly Savalas]

53. I once heard Cheney talking about how there were 50 states.

Since everything the Bush Administration says is a lie, it's obvious that there's a massive coverup involving the existence of a couple of states that they've been hiding from us.

[Old and In the Way]

54. "I saw the 1st plane hit the WTC and I thought "that's one bad pilot"

(1) Did he see the 1st plane hit on TV? Maybe CCTV.
(2) Did he really think it was a pilot error, know that we know they had 52 warnings of impending attacks, culminating with the 8/6/01 PDB?

[toymachines]

55. Cognitive dissonance

It is very hard to accept that your own government caused an act of terror on our own soil, killed many civilians, and then killed 2100 soldiers for profit motives. It is equally hard to refute though.

[rucky]

56. Around here, where people draw the line between plausible & tinfoil

continues to baffle me.

Mopaul: :yourock:

[Mich Otter]

57. My question: When did they start lying?

Did they suddenly decide to start lying after the attacks on the World Trade Center?
I think NOT!!
The entire bunch in the present administration have made fortunes off of destruction and death. They are predators who have no regard for human rights, any form of life, and any ethics that stand in way of them pursuing their goals.
They are born liars.
How can anyone believe that the CIA, the Israeli Mousad, and the Saudis don't know Osama bin Ladin's whereabouts?

[mopaul]

59. Lie is such a harsh word, let's use 'misled', it's less caustic

and let's don't start accusing them of lying until the aluminum tubes, up to then they were truthing. sarcasm alert

[Mich Otter]

63. I tell every Bush supporter...

Either;
1- Bush knew what the reports he was getting said and chose to lie to us,
or
2- Bush could not understand what was being said and is too incompetent to be president.

It is one or the other.

[warrior1]

58. Amen brother

Randi always says, "When they show you who they are, believe them."

[Lex]

60. Mopaul, we are on the same wave-length. My thread of July 2005:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4163827

"If they lied about Iraq & Wilson, then you *know* they lied about 9/11."

[mopaul]

61. in the not too distant future, it will all be revealed, & bushco disgraced

forever a black blot on our history

[Lex]

62. That thought is what keeps me going some days. That the truth will out.

Americans deserve to know the true story of this horrific chapter of our history.

[RBHam]

65. As long as Big Media aid and abet the cover up...

The brainwashed majority will NEVER accept it.

Like the assassinations of the 60's, the people will soon forget it as they desperately attempt to consume and acquire their way to a false peace of mind...

[earth mom]

67. They lie because they know that the good, honest people of this nation

WANT to believe their elected (make that selected) officials. Bush & Co are THE MASTERS of lying and manipulation. Which they have proven by getting so many to believe their LIES about 9/11. At this point, after all the lies stemming from 9/11 to finding NO WMDs in Iraq to the crap they pulled with Katrina-ALL of it causing so many to die for NO REASON, you would think EVERYONE would get it by now.

They are nothing more than bunch of criminals who will stop at NOTHING to achieve their goals!!!

[RBHam]

69. second page kick

where's the outrage?

isn' it "all about the lies"?

[Beam Me Up]

70. It is all about the lies. Buy buy buy our : WoT (tm)!!

You can't have a decent Democracy without it!

:argh:

[mopaul]

71. ---------

[Al-CIAda]

72. .