BREAKING: ROVE'S LAWYER MAY HAVE SCREWED UP BIGTIME!

[Halliburton]

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/11/loose-lipped-luskin-and-sinking-ship.html

:popcorn:

[MaineDem]

1. Sounds good but can you give us a little more?

Before I click on an unknown website.

Thanks, Hal.

[MADem]

5. CLICK! It's GOOD, I posted a few paras below! n/t

[mr_hat]

8. Make firedoglake your friend.

[dalaigh lllama]

10. This is an excellent site

Jane Hamsher was first brought to my attention right before Fitzmas. She and the others do some great analyses and hypotheses. And don't skip the comments after each entry. They've got some pretty sharp cookies over there. I've been going there almost daily.

[bunny planet]

31. Firedoglake is THE website for Plamaholics (like moi).

:-)

[femrap]

34. firedoglake.....that's a great source of info...nt

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

2. This is getting really interesting again. I think Rove is definitely

screwed now. And they say it is being presented to the grand jury this week. But any theory on when they could return the indictment? Would it be this week too or could it drag on a while again

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. Rove couldn't be screwed enough...

...to satisfy me.

There's a lot of people out their operating under misconceived notions, thanks to him. How do you educate the half of this country that drank the Kool-Aid?

[SofaKingLiberal]

17. I don't know about that, if they were able to bring back a

Tyrannosaurus like they did in Jurassic Park......

[trekbiker]

40. I think 10% have upchucked thier koolaid... 30% are hopeless goners

[Joanne98]

3. Isn't Luskin a Dem! Maybe he's LIHOP! Lol!

[Fla Dem]

9. Yes he's a real lefty. MSM made quite a bit about Rove hiring

a lefty, but evidently he's a top lawyer in Washington and Rove wanted the best.

[MADem]

4. WOW, FANTASTIC LINK!

The whole thing is deliciously JUICY, but of course, my favorite paragraphs tend towards the snark:

And let's remember that Matt Cooper might be sitting in jail right now if it hadn't been for Luskin's comment to the press that "If Matt Cooper is going to jail to protect a source, it's not Karl he's protecting." Cooper and his lawyer lunged on that statement like Jonah Goldberg on a box of Ding-Dongs and the rest is history.

...Is Luskin a sloppy media hound and a moron, or is he simply acting as Rover's battlebot? Is Viveca Novak's upcoming quality time with Patrick Fitzgerald just one more example of Turd Blossom's arrogance in thinking he can outsmart everyone and using his lawyer as an overpriced spin machine? Oh there is some cosmic justice at hand in this one.

[Toots]

12. I wonder if Rove is so arrogant as to LIE to his own lawyer

No lawyer would make a statement like that knowing it to be false. They don't get their law degree from a crackerjack box.

[MADem]

13. No, his lawyer KNOWS

It is not a crime to lie to, or mislead, the press. The only one you can't lie to is the Special Prosecutor, the FBI, or any officer of the Court!!!

[H2O Man]

14. Nixon.

Look at his entire administration.

[ashling]

32. One of the first things I learned as

an attorney: your client will lie to you.

[AX10]

6. KICK, KICK, KICK!

:rofl:

This is good. Maybe we'll get Fitzmas to coincide with Christmas this year. :D

[madrchsod]

7. what a dumb ass

ole` karl is screwed!

[benburch]

15. How does anything his lawyer says screw Rove?

If it was not said under oath or in court, how does it effect his legal status?

[TahitiNut]

18. It doesn't - except in the "court of public opinion."

:shrug:

[HereSince1628]

19. Good question, I wondered that myself.

I reread V.Novaks articles from 2004 and they basically revealled nothing that isn't already very well know.

I am guessing but it seems Fitzgerald believes that Rove's attorney has communicated to V.Novak a different story from what Fitz' was told.

Since Fitz' can't get Rove's attorney to testify against Rove, I am guessing the TIME reported represents the alternate story.

I wonder what it was and I wonder if V.Novak got more of the truth than Fitz' did the first time around.

[H2O Man]

20. One can only speculate,

at this point. But there is reason to believe that Mr. Fitzgerald is building an obstruction of justice charge for Mr. Rove. And there is a possibility that he is examining the discussions between Rove's attorney and the journalist in question as part of that. It doesn't have to mean the attorney violated the law per say; he may have been trying to find out what she or even Cooper was prepared to say about Rove.

[Just Me]

26. If his lawyer made representations that deviated from Karl's testimony,...

,...there would certainly be a problem.

OR, if his lawyer, ACTING ON KARL'S BEHALF, engaged in certain communications with potential witnesses,...that would certainly be a problem.

OR, if Karl engaged in communications which he failed to reveal to his attorney,...that would certainly be a problem.

OR, if Karl told "stories" that varied among witnesses AND his attorney,...that would certainly be a problem.

All of the above could have been reflected via his attorney's voluntary communications to the court, the feds, the media and the public court.

[TahitiNut]

16. The analysis is sadly deficient. Way.

The analysis doesn't even begin to consider the fact that Karl Rove is the client!! Anyone not born yesterday or vacationing under a rock for the last five years has gotta know that Rove would be an impossible client. I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Rove has instructed Luskin to make certain remarks. Rove is an arrogant, venomous, power-mad sociopath. Luskin (a registered Democrat) has almost no choice but to accommodate Rove's instructions. The seeming "screw-ups" have to be the result of Rove not keeping his yap shut - attempting to speak through Luskin like he speaks through Junior.

[H2O Man]

21. One possibility

might be found when Time decided to turn their notes over to Fitzgerald, before Matt Cooper folded. One might wonder if there could be a note by Ms. Novak, that indicated she had a conversation with Luskin, in which he was trying to determine what Time might be turning over and what Cooper etc might be inclined to say to the grand jury if Rove gave permission to Cooper to break their confidentiality agreement. This would not be Luskin's violating the law, but it may hold a key to obstruction on Rove's part.

If I were a betting man, I'd think that Fitzgerald is sending a clear message to his old friend: Rove will make a deal very soon. He will plead to a small charge, and turn evidence against a mysterious figure in the VP's office.

Hadley is likewise being pressured.

[Justice Is Comin]

22. I have the funniest suspicion

that Fitzgerald already wanted the other grand jury to hand up the indictment on Rove also when he closed his argument. And they were reticent to do it.

This grand jury may be a whole different mind set. Remember that envelope that was attached to the indictment? I think this very well could be that unfinished little bit of business.

[bear425]

23. I'm sorry. What envelope? I must have missed that. tia.

[hang a left]

28. There was an envelope handed up to the judge from the GJ

with their indictment of Libby. There were a few comments made on live TV regarding the envelopes inclusion with the indictment. There was also alot of speculation on what it was. I will go back and check for you and see if I can find you a thread or two that discussed it.

[bear425]

29. thanks hang a left. I've been a bit out of the loop for the last

couple of weeks. ty again.

[EFerrari]

38. Agree. He would be an impossible client. And this analysis

is less than ambitious.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. This is for sure getting good!

:popcorn:

[Catherine Vincent]

25. I hope he did on purpose!

He is a Dem after all. :)

[femrap]

36. I was hoping that as well! nt

[Independent_Liberal]

27. Kickety kick kick!

Like Chicago1 of America's Work Stories, I'm waiting for the impeachment while those scandals just keep unraveling.

:)

[Uncle Roy]

30. It's a 4-month-old article. Am I missing something?

The blog entry is today, but the New Republic article on which it is based is dated mid-July.

I join with everyone else here in looking forward to the day when Mr Rove is frog-marched out of the White House along with all the other reptiles and slithery creatures in that swamp. But I don't think an old article about the vaporings of a defense lawyer is much to get excited about. I wish someone could convince me otherwise...

[Festivito]

33. Or, did Rove have him screw up to hide something else...

Hey, look over here at the reporters... while the aides go unwatched for a while. Who knows.

Patrick has quite a job to do. I fear for him and envy him. What a case of cases!

[fearnobush]

35. Time Reporter Called a Key to Rove's Defense In Leak Probe - sound familar

Time Reporter Called a Key to Rove's Defense In Leak Probe
Luskin said Cooper's email would prove Rove innocent, now he saying his friend, Novak from Time will do the same - Well Lusky, Cooper's email nailed your pig as a target for indictment the last time you said that.


By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 29, 2005; Page A01

The reporter for Time magazine who recently agreed to testify in the CIA leak case is central to White House senior adviser Karl Rove's effort to fend off an indictment in the two-year-old investigation, according to two people familiar with the situation.
....
"This is what caused to hold off on charging" Rove, the source said. But another person familiar with the conversations said they did not appear to significantly alter the case.
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/28/AR2005112801683.html?sub=AR>

Oh and the money quote:

In the course of one interview with the Los Angeles Times, Luskin both refused to confirm or deny the authenticity of Cooper's e-mail to his editor and used its contents as evidence of Rove's innocence.

[C_U_L8R]

37. Seems like Rove Standard Operating Procedure

When the going gets ruff, create as much confusion as possible.

In the cloud of chaos, Rove hopes to wiggle his fat ass out of trouble.
Don't think anyone is buying it.. and hopefully no jury will buy it either.

We will see.

[King Coal]

39. The more confusion Luskin can stir up, the harder it is to prove intent.

[goforit]

41. Luskin is a dumb ass!!...When it is all put together.... it's a mess.

LOL!!!!

Let us not say another word so he won't see how
dumb he really is.

[AuntiBush]

42. Forgot about that Great Site!

And WOW! What a story! Love the title: "Loose Lipped Luskin and the Sinking Ship Rove."

Says it all. We can only hope. Fingers & toes crossed for Frog-Marching. Tired of crossed-eyes from *&co!