OFFICIAL HOUSE THREAD #10 - Final ?

[LSK]

Thread 9 here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5401562&mesg_id=5401562

Im getting tired. ;)

[Nitrogenica]

1. The most C-Span I've ever watched on a Friday night.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Same here

this is gonna be amazing, the begining of the end is now, we have finally started having the debate we should have had BEFORE the war started

[Bill McBlueState]

5. exactly

Whatever people read into the vote, the fact that the war was debated for two hours on the floor of the House signals a new era.

[autorank]

11. And the debate is over for the people and the military...it's just the *

crew that hasn't gotten the message. Shame on them!

[rzemanfl]

4. Most C-Span I have watched ever, my wife is ready to kill me. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

24. I watched a ton of it last night too - Budget farce. My husband

mocks me for my C-span viewing.

I mock him back for his Cartoon Network viewing.

I'd say we are even.

[rzemanfl]

51. My wife watches all the home remodeling stuff. Trading Spaces,

Sell this House and such. My home decorating issues are: is there a shower, a toilet and a bed?

[Stand and Fight]

8. I'm with you on that one!

:hug:

[liveoaktx]

55. Plus I watched the action last night on the budget

I'm almost Cspanned out.

[LSK]

2. the Nays are winning in a landslide 400-5

[goclark]

7. I'm so tired what does that mean?

I think I should be glad but the Rethugs have twisted this up so much I think up is down now.

[LSK]

12. it means the bill will not pass

All this was for nothing. Except it brought a lot of good debate and news to the House regarding getting out of Iraq.

[Roy]

It means more talking points for the repubs.

Such as dems shouldn't bad mouth the war cause after all, they just voted for it AGAIN.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. you know what this means right?

They can try, but they were cornered into having the discusion... I am sure hastert will kick himself in the morning when he wakes up

[bilgewaterbill]

62. Who watched the discussion? Us?

The sheeple will see the headlines tomorrow and think the party just endorsed the war again.

[Mass]

6. Why did they accept to vote at all - Present would have been fine

[AuntPatsy]

17. I have to agree with you, present would have been the right

thing to do but then again, I am not a political student well informed enough to know all the rules of the game and sadly it is all a game...tonight proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt..

These same idiots went on and on about MM saying he was nothing more than a film maker playing with the facts, well news flash, it is exactly how the political spectrum is run, you have your directors, producers and actors etc, all set and ready to take the stage...and all are compensated...

the same rules apply, just different labels.

[gristy]

9. let the thread fill up a bit more

the posts are so short. Or maybe I feel that way 'cause I finally got cable this week! :)

[LSK]

21. i think i will, nothing left now except the final #s

[Stand and Fight]

13. Democrats should NOT have voted as a solid block.

They should have simply registered as present. At least six of them have some sense though...

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Au contraire, this is the same as

begging to join an enemies list... takes all the thunder out of it...

[mirror wall]

19. Yea, really. Why didn't they just register as present?

I honestly can't think of a GOOD reason for doing so. I can think of reasons, surely, but none of them are "good" per se.

[sallyseven]

Because if they did they wouldn't

be able to set in motion a new vote giving a time table to get out. They did not want to be seen as cutting an running they wanted a thoughtful withdrawal. Measured so as not to scare the real republicans,

[buddysmellgood]

14. Many thanks

:toast:

[Nitrogenica]

16. This would never be happening without the outpouring

of public support for a change of course. We need to have more of a plan than the dumbed down "We'll stand down when the Iraqis stand up". It's looking like despite the elections etc that they are not going to "stand up" as that term is defined by the Administration.

Their plan really is to win. How?...By winning. How do we win? By staying the course. So how do we know when we've won? Well, when we win, we'll tell you we've won.


*sigh*

[AuntPatsy]

26. Excellent summary, Im sighing along with you,

[AntiFascist]

43. Um, based on the statistics quoted by Murtha it would seem...

the Iraqies are standing up alright, they taking a stand against us. This is now a full-on war against Iraq.

[johnaries]

18. 3 Dems voted yes? Which 3, I wonder?

I would have been tempted to vote yes, too!

[goclark]

25. Am I silly to believe that the debate needed to be aired

If Muerta had not made his statement, we would not be as far along as we are now -right?

[AuntPatsy]

33. No, not silly at all, this was a very important platform never before

given, yet it doesn't exactly leave one feeling better for it.

[johnaries]

57. I'm just as silly, then, because I agree with you. n/t

[buddysmellgood]

20. They can bring up another resolution when they get back.

[bucknaked]

22. lol! RNC goons sent out at the last minute (both R nays rescinded)

The 2 Republicans switched their votes in the final tally.

[AntiFascist]

23. Que'lle d'homage (sp)

I wonder how the MSM will be reporting this?

[CTD]

28. Hmmm...

[AntiFascist]

34. she was a newbie, and not too bright nt

[Gold Metal Flake]

35. Would you trust your small dog with that Congresscritter?

:scared:

[Gold Metal Flake]

29. They will report it as they are ordered to report it.

I expect no changes there.

[raysr]

31. I'll bet they're having a

good laugh over at "freeper" central. Rove set us up and sprung the trap.

[buddysmellgood]

27. The real problem is that the press will spin it for the pukes.

[Writer]

38. How do you know that?

In what smoky room will "the press" meet in order to agree to "spin this for the pukes?"

Wait and see before you judge - and not every member of the press is the same.

[buddysmellgood]

40. That's the tendency of the MSM

[LSK]

30. remember, this is the Republicans resolution

The vote for it so they could vote against it. No dems voted for it to make it this far.

Flippity floppity flippity flop.

[spanone]

32. Who are the 3 YEAS??

[ROH]

58. They are:

McKinney
Serrano
Wexler

[RepublicanElephant]

36. repubs are awfully quiet, considering they've just "won" a vote. n/t

?

[Bill McBlueState]

39. good point! n/t

[kath]

37. Too bad the dems didn't just walk out...

should have said that the whole thing was a farce and walked out of the chamber.

[The2ndWheel]

41. Wow

The Democrats actually won a Republican sponsored vote. They actually beat the Republicans!! Woohoo!! The tide has finally turned!! The final drip has dropped! When the Democrats start winning in Congress, justice can only be around the corner! Doesn't that beat all!

[erinlough]

42. Huh? really I'm confused

[LSK]

44. all this was a REPUBLICAN resolution

Which was rejected.

[erinlough]

48. Thanks LSK, I've been here all along, I just didn't catch on to the poster

[The2ndWheel]

45. I was being sarcastic

Duncan Hunter wrote the bill specifically to lose it. Sure enough...

[erinlough]

46. It's late and I missed the sarcasm. Thanks for the clarification.

[AuntPatsy]

47. Shut up Trent Franks and get your sorry ass over to iraq and be

the patriot you claim to be and let another come home that has yet to be able to be free of this illegal war you and yours led them into.l..


In other words, shit or get off the pot and put actions where your false words flow from....

Otherwise, shut up...

[erinlough]

50. I have to say, and I love the posters who are on DU from AZ

you have elected some sorry assed Republicans.

[AuntPatsy]

53. Havnet we all, that vermin needs to be exterminated, where is Arnie

when you need him to do the job he once embraced so passionately.

[erinlough]

54. You got that right,

even blue states have some of the biggest asses in the GOP. My own state, MI spawned the likes of Upton and Miller. Truly amazing!

[Acryliccalico]

49. 9/11 AGAIN !!! please /:(

[RepublicanElephant]

52. ..and clinton. not so much his name, as the years of terror attacks.

geez.

bill NEVER gets credit for the attacks he stopped!

[LSK]

56. FINAL ROLL CALL VOTE 403 - 3

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll608.xml

[RepublicanElephant]

59. that's all folks!

congress is out for 2 weeks.

[Sydnie]

60. Thank you LSK for your new threads tonight.

You did a great job keeping the discussion moving.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. thank you LSK

and good night

[LSK]

63. thanks to all for sharing this with me

:hi: