The CIA-Bushco War: A pox on both their houses.

[Jackpine Radical]

In the long run, probly the best thing that could happen to the country is for the Goss/Bush2 faction and the old-line Spook dept., descended from the likes of Bill "Braindead" Casey, to kill each other off.

Right now the CIA ancien regime is our most effective weapon against the Neocons, but I spent most of my life in fear & loathing of the old CIA, who brought us everything from the Kennedy assassination to the overthrow of Allende. There are things I cannot and do not forget.

[thefloyd]

1. You really believe

Kennedy was shot by the CIA?

[Jackpine Radical]

3. CIA/mob/Batististas.

One unholy ball of strings in there, impossible to unravel who is who.

I think that Jack had been perceived as controllable through Old Joe, but after Old Joe had his stroke, Jack was off the leash & started doing things on his own, like screwing up the Bay of Pigs, so they took him out.

[shance]

2. Yes they have both had quite a hand in the abuse of power, havent they?

The anti-thesis of true Democracy and the instigators of much of the strife and pain of this nation.

What I believe is a positive is we are seeing the opportunity that we must face our own systems that create this abuse of power because at this stage of our technological and even social advancement, there is simply no margin of error left.