Ex-CIA Ray Mc Govern tellin' it like it is on C-SPAN

[oasis]

He says George Tenet was the worst CIA director ever because he allowed the Bush administration to corrupt intel.

[acmejack]

1. Thanx for the heads up

Ray is a true patriot, this is the kind of thing that is really hard on * and gang.

[oasis]

3. McGovern exposes Sen. Roberts of the Intelligence Committee of being a

WH shill because he refused to investigate the source of the forged Niger documents.

BTW, you're welcome :hi:

[DemonFighterLives]

2. Sen. Roberts says it wouldn't be appropriate for the FBI to

check on intel. Roberts seems to be the big stonewaller.

[oasis]

7. Roberts has shone his true colors as a Bush shill.

[DemonFighterLives]

9. oh yeah and then some

He is one of the leaders of coverup central.

[oasis]

4. "Cooking Intelligence for the White House" and "Neo-conned Again".

[babylonsister]

5. This is the same man who was front and center on the DSM

hearing, right? He's a joy to listen to, as painful as that might be, because of is honesty.

[oasis]

6. He's not letting anyone off of the hook. Refreshing.

[DemonFighterLives]

8. Freeper caller going off now

trying to bash McGovern and not being conservative. Where were you before the war started, you horses ass? clip
The war was bad to begin with, and the orange band he is wearing that the freep asked about says "stop torture now".

[oasis]

11. Freep out of control because ex-CIA wears "Stop Tortur Now" wristband.

[madokie]

10. thnks

[Corgigal]

12. first time I've heard him live

what a reasonable intelligent person. Refreshing.

[madokie]

13. Listening to him, I realize that Dem's have intelligent compassionate

people who can stay on subject, speak the truth and scare the hell out of the repuke's
Proud to be a Democrat

[oasis]

14. The anti-McGovern callers-in have been out of contol.

[DemonFighterLives]

16. Amazing how they can attack a moderate intelligent man

The freepers very much hate the truth. It is all Sandy Berger and Clinton to them. And Ray never did anything about torture while in the cia. Well Torture has made this big comeback under dubco.

[oasis]

17. The truth to Freeps is like cryptonite is to Superman.

[oasis]

15. Applauds Col. Larry Wilkerson, former Powell aide, for coming forward on

Iraq intel manipulation. Wilkerson, btw, was scheduled to be on Wolf's CNN show yesterday but Wolfie conveniently ran out of time.

[stanwyck]

18. I am so glad you posted this

because when I left for work there was another one of those rightwing authors with a new book out who was still blaming Clinton for the CIA's failure AND, of course, 9-11. Can't tell you the guy's name. I was getting ready for work and listening to this hack spout his Bush cheerleading.
He was an unabashed Bush lover with a hatchet to grind against his former employer, The Washington Post.
So. I'm so satisfied that you're pointing out there was someone to balance this fount of misinformation.
Washington Journal really stooped low with this guy.

[Catherine Vincent]

20. I heard the guy too as I was getting ready for work.

He appeared to have a beef with the Washington Post. Isn't it amazing you can always tell the right wing guests that shill for the Bush admin?

[stanwyck]

21. he was totally biased

wanted Clinton to take the blame for 9-11...left out that Bush appointed Cheney as head of the terrorism task force, prior to 9-11, and Cheney's group met....zero times. Or that during the month of the most terroristic "chatter" Bush was on his ranch. Or that Condi, our National Security Advisor, said "who would ever have thought terrorists would fly planes into buildings"...despite being brief on that scenario at least twice.
Plus...What's the name of that report you were given, Condi, by the Clinton administration?
Oh, yeah. "Bin Laden to Attack Within the United States."
I'm so sick of these guys who come out of the woodwork to make a buck with a bunch of lies.
Washington Journal should never have had this hustler as a guest. He's below their standards.

[oasis]

24. Kessler was the right wing shill pretending to be unbiased. Not CIA but

claimed he had "sources" and "connections" for his book "Inside the CIA".

[Octafish]

19. When it comes to Politicized Intel...

McGovern's named names. From a column of his:

The War for Intel Independence

by Ray McGovern
April 26, 2005

President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are framing the trials of John Bolton, their nominee for ambassador to the United Nations, as a partisan political squabble. It is much more than that. It is rather a matter of life and death for the endangered species of intelligence analysts determined to "tell it like it is," no matter what the administration's policies may be. For them, the stakes are very high indeed.

The Bush administration strongly resists the notion that the intelligence on Iraq, for example, was cooked to the White House recipe. And with the president's party controlling both houses of Congress and the president appointing his own "independent" commission to investigate, Bush and Cheney have until now been able to prevent any meaningful look into the issue of politicization of intelligence.

SNIP...

For many, the term "politicization" is as difficult to understand as it is to pronounce. Indeed, it is impossible to understand, when one assumes – as most do – that all institutions in Washington, D.C., have a political agenda. Suffice it to say here that, in order to do their job properly, intelligence analysts must at one and the same time be aware of what is going on at the policy level but be insulated from political pressure to conform intelligence to policy. That way, intelligence analysis can be based on fact (as in "We have no good evidence that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction"), rather than fiction (as in, "Iraq's weapons of mass destruction pose a grave threat requiring immediate action"). Helpful insight into politicization can be found in John Prados' article of last Thursday, "Boltonized Intelligence."

L'Affaire Bolton

SNIP...

For those wondering if this constitutes politicization, a recently declassified e-mail message made available to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and The New York Times should dispel any doubt. On Feb. 12, 2002, after a run-in with Westermann, Bolton's principal aide, Frederick Fleitz, sent Bolton this e-mail:

"I explained to Christian that it was a political judgment as to how to interpret this data and the I.C. should do as we asked."

CONTINUED...

http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=5732

[Karenina]

22. Kick!

:kick:

[oasis]

25. Thanks for the McGovern link Octafish. An informed DU community is

indeed a wonderful goal to pursue. :thumbsup:

[mandyky]

23. He was great!!

He set those wingnut callers straight too!