Bill Clinton's long history of sexual violence against women

[Walt Starr]

All the President's victims: Bill Clinton's long history of sexual violence against women


By Daniel J. Harris
& Teresa Hampton
Capitol Hill Blue

Although the White House has successfully intimidated NBC News into deep sixing an explosive interview with an Arkansas woman who says Bill Clinton raped her 20 years ago, Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that the charge is but one of many allegations of sexual assault by the President.

A five month investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas woman who worked on Bill Clinton's campaign when he was attorney general, told NBC's Lisa Meyers two weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC, under intense pressure by the White House, shelved the interview. The White House also threatened Fox News Tuesday after it reported the story.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Feb1999/020399/clintonrape020399.htm

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Be careful of what you cite as a source on DU.

[Jim Sagle]

1. VERY timely reminder. The enemy of your enemy isn't ALWAYS your friend.

[ewagner]

2. Just out of curiousity

Are those same two authors with Capitolhillblue now?

[Walt Starr]

5. From 2004

How Big Brother Is Watching, Listening and Misusing Information About You
By TERESA HAMPTON & DOUG THOMPSON
Jun 8, 2004, 08:19
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You’re on your way to work in the morning and place a call on your wireless phone. As your call is relayed by the wireless tower, it is also relayed by another series of towers to a microwave antenna on top of Mount Weather between Leesburg and Winchester, Virginia and then beamed to another antenna on top of an office building in Arlington where it is recorded on a computer hard drive.
The computer also records you phone digital serial number, which is used to identify you through your wireless company phone bill that the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency already has on record as part of your permanent file.

A series of sophisticated computer programs listens to your phone conversation and looks for “keywords” that suggest suspicious activity. If it picks up those words, an investigative file is opened and sent to the Department of Homeland Security.

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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=4656

[Walt Starr]

6. And the one last year everybody raves about on DU

New Information Suggests Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional
By TERESA HAMPTON
Editor, Capitol Hill Blue
Jun 17, 2004, 08:47
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The carefully-crafted image of George W. Bush as a bold, decisive leader is questioned by new revelations that the President is indecisive, moody, paranoid and delusional.
A new book by Dr. Justin Frank, director of psychiatry at George Washington University, raises many questions about the President’s mental stability.

"George W. Bush is a case study in contradiction," Dr. Frank writes in Bush On The Couch: Inside the Mind of the President. "Bush is an untreated ex-alcoholic with paranoid and megalomaniac tendencies."

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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=4704

[patrice]

3. NOT that it is okay, but the number of American men whose

"sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''" is VAST. Let's call ALL of them into scrutiny if we're going to do this with Clinton.

[Walt Starr]

8. Now, associate the story

with the source.

[patrice]

37. Okay.

. . . and Wymyn are still responsible for saying No, no matter how bad some men are.

[BiggJawn]

68. Yeah, like me, f'instance.

Frankly, I don't think it matters how "little room" you have for "no!", as long as you *DO* have room for it.

More of that "Bill Clinton is a fuck-dawg" bullshit...

[USA_1]

4. Bush's Violence Against Women

... in Abu Ghraib:


http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm

[Domitan]

9. Ah, the infamous Aztlan

run by the Hispanic supremacists! Some may call them the Hispanic answer to the NeoNazis.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. This article is from February, 1999??????

[Walt Starr]

10. Yes, demonstrating the modus operandi of CHB

:evilgrin:

They're yellow journalists.

[Blue_Roses]

11. Isn't this old news?

wasn't this woman spouting this during monica-gate?
She was one of Lucianne Goldberg's "friends". That speaks volumes about validity:eyes:

When all else fails--blame Clinton (rw motto)

[Walt Starr]

12. Yes, it is

just demonstrating the veracity of the source is all.

Capitol Hill blue is NOT a reliable source. In fact, it is a MOST unreliable source.

[Marie26]

52. This is ancient

And they didn't shelve the story, I remember NBC News doing an interview w/Juanita Broddrick in 1999(?). Anyway, during the Clinton presidency. For what it's worth, I believed her. She hasn't written a book about this, she didn't go to the right-wing groups, & didn't go to the media w/this story. This woman could well be a victim. Just cause Clinton was a good President doesn't mean he was a good husband, or even a good man.

[peacetalksforall]

13. Feb 1999 - Yeah, the 1990's - Decade of character assassination.

2000's - half decade of untold death and real assassinations against the people of Iraq (and some famous and leading bio-chemists).

[Walt Starr]

15. And yellow journalism from Capitol Hill Blue in both decades. n/t

[acmejack]

17. Point nicely made, Mr. Starr.

nt

[Frances]

14. I don't believe Elvis, the Beatles, or Clinton

ever attacked a woman.

I think they didn't have the chance. They couldn't get past the women who were throwing themselves at them.

[Walt Starr]

16. And now the REAL question

Do you believe Bush is throwing temper tantrums all over the White House with his list of 10,000 enemies in hand, and the special one for Doug Thompson?

[walldude]

21. I never trusted CHB either

All they ever post is speculation that they claim is backed up by White House Insiders.. What really amazes me is I've seen places that I consider credible use CHB as a source. We will never win our country back with asinine speculation. There are enough facts out there to hang the whole administration, lets keep pushing those and lay off the National Enquirer type shit.
Good post Walt... as usual ;)

[Blue_Roses]

26. the temper tantrums

I do believe. He just seems so damn spoiled and stubborn that if he doesn't get his way he would throw a fit. He did run his car through the garage when Laura disapproved of one of his speeches when he was running for offices years ago. (however, he probably was drunk if the truth be known)

Yep, after watching him during the debates with Kerry...yep, he throws fits:D

[Walt Starr]

29. Same guy that wrote stories about Clinton being a rapist

is now writing stories about Bush being a psycho temper tantrum thrower.

You believe what you want to believe.

[Blue_Roses]

30. well, I don't necessarily believe CHB

in fact I think their stuff is crap, but after watching Bush for many years as a governor and now, he has a temper. The debate with Kerry where he got so mad showed how he handles stress--not good.

As for CHB, I think they just like to stir the shit and if I know something is written by them I don't even read it.

[Zen Democrat]

43. But the Bush tantrum stuff was also written by Evan Thomas in Newsweek.

I say, just because it's in CHB doesn't mean it's true, but it also doesn't mean it's not true.

I'm sure CHB did get that Clinton stuff from an insider -- somebody like Linda Tripp.

[Walt Starr]

47. Apples and oranges

Compare the two stories and the pictures they paint. One reports, the other embellishes to pringt what those who opose Bush WANT TO HEAR!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

54. In your opinion, right?

[Walt Starr]

57. No, in fact

Read the two stories. They are not even related.

[Marie26]

64. re-posted below (eom)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

61. CHB wasn't the originator of those stories, was he? I seem to recall.....

...the people behind the Arkansas Project as the originators of that false storyline about Clinton, along with dozens of other false stories they planted in the media.

IMHO, it appears to me that you don't like the messenger, and you want us to join your lynch mob. Count me out.

[Walt Starr]

65. CHB did a series of stories alleging Clinton raped 30 different women

They take rumors and innuendo, make shit up, and put it out there for people who WANT to believe it.

[Marie26]

67. What if you believe both?

:7 I'd have to consider Capitol Hill Blue a pretty reliable source! No, honestly, it seems like a gossip column to me, w/a combination of real & speculative info. But I don't understand why people dislike this particular site so much? The Enquirer has been posted as a source, why not this?

[Walt Starr]

71. The Enquirer being used as a source

is just as bad, IMO.

We should avoid the rags.

[Marie26]

74. And what about all the speculative posts?

It's not just tabloids or websites being posted, people post their own theories on how Bush will be impeached, the stolen election will be discovered, Fitzgerald will indict 50+ people. Aren't these threads also just speculation? Isn't this also just posting what Democrats may want to believe? Isn't everything on this site biased towards the Democratic point of view? I like that "Latest Breaking News" is limited to reputable sources, but as far as the rest, it seems like anything goes. Which could be a good thing - it means there's no censoring of different points of view, from blogs to alternative news media. This means people can shift through all this information to find the truth. I've learned a whole lot here that isn't in the mainstream media - a lot of it from "liberal" blogs that are undoubtably biased; but still dig for info about Bush that we wouldn't find otherwise. If we banned people or sources for being biased or speculative, we'd probably all be banned. :)

[Quixote1818]

75. Great Post! Well said! nt

[Walt Starr]

78. Then it should be noted in the post that is is merely speculation

I can go along with that.

[JJackFlash]

18. Yeah, I know

CHB's Doug Thompson is an ass who was fully on board with every Clinton conspiracy.

Their current articles on *'s behavior are fully believable to me, however, and I enjoy reading them.

DU should not be about BANNING.

[Walt Starr]

20. The articles in the 90's about Clinton's behaviour were fully believable

to Freepers.

So there ya go. Yellow journalism always tells somebody precisely what they WANT TO HEAR.

[Marie26]

70. Wouldn't Freepers want to believe that

Bush is in control, strong, knowledgable & being persecuted by the left? Why wouldn't they post that if they're only doing what people want to hear?

[Walt Starr]

79. A site dedicated to D.C. gossip will always post crap against the status

quo.

In the 90s, Clinton was the status quo, so they went after Clinton with bullshit claims. Now Bush is the status quo, so they go after Bush with bullshit claims.

[LA lady]

19. Clinton museum

Juanita Brodrick and Kathleen Wiley were in Arkansas about 2 weeks ago to tour the Clinton museum. They are writing a "book" with another woman about their supposed experiences.

[Walt Starr]

22. In ten years there could be 10,000 different books

about experiences of being on chimpy's enemies list.

[Cleita]

23. There has never been anything credible out there

that indicated Clinton was violent towards women. All his encounters appeared to be consensual if adulterous. Even tramp Paula Jones testified that when he realized she didn't want to have sex with him, he apologized for the mistake.

Clinton's bimbo list is much longer than the ones he was famous for, but none of them ever said that they were raped or made to perform sex acts against their will. If there were any of those claims they seem to have been discredited early on.

[Walt Starr]

25. Just like there is nothing credible about Bush throwing temperr tantrums

:shrug:

Go figure. People will hear what they want to hear, unfortunately.

Not saying it about you, but I started this thread to demonstrate the veracity of CHB as a source.

[Cleita]

27. I was wondering why you were using it. n/t

[ShrewdLiberal]

24. Why do you post this shit?

If Clinton actually committed the crimes he was accused of, they would've certainly nailed him on every one. He's the most investigated man in the history of the world, i.e., mankind. They never had the goods on him. Ken Starr investigated every lead and came up with nothing, dry holes--no pun intended.

In the United States of America you are innocent until proven guilty. Bill Clinton was cleared on every charge that has ever been leveled against him. Period.

This is the same old garbage.

[Walt Starr]

28. To show that CHB puts out nothing but shit

Shit about Clinton raping women and shit about Bush throwing temper tantrums with enemy lists 10,000 names long.

[ShrewdLiberal]

35. I see your point, but my point is...

that whenever it is brought up we get false concepts. The image of Clinton becomes smeared; that's what the Repukes wanted. David Brinkley, as I'm sure you're well aware, recently wrote that Bill Clinton would've been a great president had it not been for the Lewinsky scandal.

The Pukes sexualized Clinton's image presicely to bring his legacy down a knotch to near-greatness. They knew he'd succeed with flying colors. Bob Barr wanted to impeach him before he became president! Reminding us over and over about what we already know is just to give us trepidation and doubt about him as a man. Look at Hillary, look at Chelsea, look at how he protected his mother when she was being beaten and abused by his stepfather. Look at his policies when he was governnor and president in regards to women, look at the many women--black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Arab--who were in his administration, The Family and Medical Leave Act, protecting a woman's right to choose, etc. Bill Clinton has a history of treating women--with the exception of his adultry--better than most men. Hell, most men commit adultry themselves! That's one of the reasons why the divorce rate is so high.

Anyway, I understand your point. I just think we shouldn't give those assholes the time of day. They are still in Clinton's pants--five years later! They should just give him the BJ they so long for, if that's what it takes to cure them. LOL.

[Walt Starr]

36. This story was from 1999

and was pandering to those who opposed the status quo of its time.

Today, CHB panders to those who oppose Bush with unsubstantiated stories of temper tantrums and enemy lists 10,000 names long, with a super special double secret probation file for CHB's own Doug Thomson.

[aquart]

31. Point taken.

[MamaBear]

32. Point Taken

I'll wait for a better source. Thanks.

But damn.

[milkyway]

33. Thanks, Walt. Posting unsubstantiated gossip from unreliable sources

just dilutes our real arguments against bush, and it gives the wingnuts a strawman to attack.

[jim3775]

34. I agree with you 100% Walt

I've gotten into a couple of flamewars pointing out CHB is bullshit.

[Quixote1818]

38. Looks like Capital Hill Blue's source was NBC's Lisa Meyers

I guess we shouldn't cite NBC as a source either?

This hardly makes your point Walt.

[Walt Starr]

42. They did an entire series on Clinton rape stories

check their archive.

[Quixote1818]

63. Exactly my point

nt

[AzDar]

39. Yep....Well George W. Bush has raped me, and I've never even met him.

[dpbrown]

40. Muckrakers are muckrakers

The difference is that I never see the grocery store rags going after Bush.

[UTUSN]

41. I Get the Point, But Am Alerting for Divisiveness & Flamebait

I get the point the O.P. is making, that CHB has a bad history as a source, that we like it when it attacks Shrub but dislike it when it attacked CLINTON, but this sexual crap about CLINTON just dredges up bad memories, is divisive and flamebait. I'm going to post this to the thread and say I Alerted on it. It's your call, Mods, needless to say.

[Walt Starr]

44. IF this gets locked then every post that cites CHB must also be locked

I posted it to demonstrate they are a bogus source.

[UTUSN]

45. Well, You Know, I Have a Favorite Example of Racism

a graphic of a mock California drivers' license with a picture of the Mexican bandit in Treasure of the Sierra Madre. I posted it some 20 times. Then one somebody complained about it and demonstrated complete un-understanding of my point, yet if I post it my post will be deleted. You're doing the same thing.

[Walt Starr]

46. No, I'm not

simply because of the sentence of commentary I placed after my citation.

[UTUSN]

49. My Post of the CA driver's license Had Explicit Commentary with It.

Why would I give an example if I knew it was not apropos?

[Walt Starr]

58. This headline is every bit as legitimate as

BUSH THROWS TEMPER TANTRUM!!!

[UTUSN]

50. & I Didn't Convey My Gut Reaction

Reliving those old, horrible headlines turned my stomach as soon as I opened up the GD and saw them.

[WilliamPitt]

48. Thank you, Walt

[Walt Starr]

59. Not a problem, Will

I don't mind Freepers being duped by the likes of CHB, but I want to show DUers what they are really all about.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

51. How about linking a CHB column where CHB has demonstrably....

...presented false information over the last 2-3 years? CHB has not been the only media source to comment on Herr Busch's mood swings over the past year or so.

What's the relevance in linking an article about a subject that EVERYONE was discussing back in 1999?

[UTUSN]

55. Or How About Addressing the Real Topic - CHB - Forthrightly Instead

of doing it "artistically" with a headline referencing the CLINTON sex angle? It's bad enough that LETTERMAN and LENO are *STILL* making CLINTON sex jokes.

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Thanks for making this point for the DUers, Walt.

But I sure wish the thread title wasn't your typical freeper title against Clinton.

[Walt Starr]

60. Sadly, I used the title of the actual article

It shows how legitimate titles like "BUSH THROWS TEMPER TANTRUMS" are.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

62. That's CHB's decision to entitle his columns anyway he wants....

...we don't have to repeat that rather inflammatory mistake on DU.

[Walt Starr]

66. If we reporduce the Bush Temper Tantrum headlines

we have to understand the history of the site putting out that bullshit.

[Marie26]

56. Are you posting this to discredit Capitol Hill Blue?

This article is incredibly old - are you trying to show that this site isn't credible cause it also posted allegations about Clinton? Just wondering - I can't see any other reason for posting this.

[goodboy]

69. Chimpy should sent Clinton a thank you note for bailing him out this time.

timing is questionable no?

[Marie26]

72. Not really - the article & link are from 1999 (n/t)

[mia]

73. GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline

"Be careful of what you cite as a source on DU."

This thread and the replies to the thread below were an education for me. Thanks.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Douglas Carpenter]

76. thanks for making this point

I must admit that it is awfully tempting just to believe the worst and be convinced because it fits into ones idea of what that person is.
CNB is a eye-candy for the gullible.

[trumad]

77. If it walks like a duck

[Moderator]

80. Locking

The thread starter's point has been made.