National Recall Election to boot Bush out

[Submariner]

Can a recall vote be petitioned at the federal level like the Gropenator stunt? It would seem worth a try rather than put up with this asshole for another 3.2 years.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Sadly, no

the only way to get rid of Bush is by impeachment.

[havocmom]

2. The US Constitution has no provision for such action.

Recall is a local option in some states..

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Don't think so

Removal of the President is layed out in the Constitution. Our only voice on it is a) the voting booth and b) our federally elected official who are 'supposed' to represent all of us.

[ThomWV]

4. If You Can Amend The Constitution For god Why Not For Recall?

Every Republican alive has called for the amendment of the Constitution for some trivial pet stunt or another, why not call for a Constitutional Amendment for something worthwhile that could rid us of this turd?

[eyesroll]

8. Are you aware of how long it takes to ratify a Constitutional amendment?

States need to approve it, too. It's a slow process. Bush'd be long gone before that happens...and you know someone would try to use it on the next president, no matter what.

[benburch]

5. Read the Constitution, please.

A working knowledge of that document is essential if you want to call yourself a Citizen and would keep questions like this from being asked.

[eyesroll]

6. Nope. Only five ways I know of for a live president to leave office.

1. Voluntary resignation
2. Impeachment and conviction
3. Voted out
4. Term limited out
5. Deciding not to seek re-election

You can bug your member of Congress to initiate an impeachment inquiry. That's about it.

[benburch]

7. Thought of one more

Medically unfit.

[eyesroll]

9. Hm. How does that work?

I really have no idea -- is that substantially similar to an impeachment? (i.e. the Senate votes?) Or an involuntary resignation?

[benburch]

14. Amendment XXV

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.


Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.


Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

[indepat]

12. Recall would not be needed if the Congress performed its duty when

compelling reasons are present. But its politics as usual with partisan politics winning over country and its Constitution.

[bowens43]

10. No.

[noiretextatique]

11. i like the idea

even though it would only be symbolic.

[benburch]

13. Self delete

Replied to wrong post

[Walt Starr]

15. A President can be removed several ways

If s/he dies, s/he is removed from office.

If s/he is impeached and convicted, s/he is removed from office.

S/he can resign.

There are two ways to remove a sitting president in all but name:

The President notifies the President Pro-Tempore of the Senate that s/he is unable to discharge her/his duties and the Veep becomes Acting President.

If he is unable to discharge his duties, the Veep and a majority of the cabinet can notify the President Pro-Tempore of the Senate and the Veep becoems Acting President

[NNadir]

16. The only mechanism is to end one party rule in 2006, elect a congress

that will investigate the crimes of this administration, and act on them through the constitutional means of impeachment.

Just as we knew at the outbreak of the war that it was a fraud, many here know instinctively that there have been many criminal acts in the Bush administration - acts that only needed the slighest stirring to obviate themselves. The Bush administration will not stand up to independent scrutiny - not for 5 minutes.

That said, they, the Repukes, still control everything, the courts, the congress, and, IMO, they still control the media - even if the media's ability to protect the Bushies is breaking down simply from the scale of the fuck up. The media is not really reporting the real news because they have integrity - any more than Pravda did when the Soviet one party state was falling. Instead the media is merely trying to protect its own ass. It's credibility is falling as fast as Bushy boy's poll numbers.

[mzmolly]

17. This is the avenue to remove * right here. And your post is RIGHT ON.

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