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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:21 PM
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California:How many electronic voting machine were allowed in after Arnold
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 09:43 PM by Zinfandel
appointed a republican Secretary of State, to count our votes, (After elected Democrat, Shelley was forced out).

What counties were the machines put in? Were the machines Diebold or some other republican controlled machine company?

What effect, if any, will there be by tomorrow morning.

In the early morning hours, when we're all asleep, is when the machines seem to do their republican dirty work?

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:23 PM
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1. our riverside precinct had machines:
had some kinda county seal on them where the seal would be broken if opened.

I asked for and got a paper ballot.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/chinamart.htm
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:27 PM
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3. But isn't it the software? They don't have to physically go into the
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machines...

And that's the problem...they can tap into the machines from anywhere, and with no paper trail, were screwed....
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:26 PM
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2. Good question.
There are tricky things in LA County, which can easily swing the election any way it wants.
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:30 PM
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4. I'm in LA County and in my district we had those ink paper ballots nt
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:32 PM
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7. I am, too, and we had the same. That's a switch from punch cards.
That means electronic tabulators for sure, right?
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:06 PM
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11. Yes and I'm so paranoid I double checked each and every ink dot and made
sure they corresponded with the NO (and the last 2 yes) votes to make sure there wasn't some misprint. There were NO ERRORS in my district. I like them better than the punch card ... no 'chads'
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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5. I don't think they are used on a large scale
I know my precinct in SD county was with paper and ink ballots, I think that both the Dem SoS we had and the pubbie we have now decerted the Diebold machines.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:35 PM
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9. But if a proposition or election is close, that's when the machines can
do their magic and send the republican issue and/or candidate to victory, in close elections!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:32 PM
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6. We need to find a way to dump these ursurpers
and get our properly elected officials back in honest elections. I wouldn't be surprised if all of Arnold's initiatives conveniently pass. Have you noticed that there has been no exit polling?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:33 PM
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8. 90 Minutes Left
We'll have the results by bedtime tonight.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:45 PM
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10. San Bernardino - electronic voting with a paper trail
Before you push the "button" that registers your ballot, a cashier's receipt prints out a summary of your votes. It's behind a window, and the instruction is that if it's wrong you can clear it and re-vote. I thought it was a pretty good system, and I felt better about my vote than in 2004, when the machines had no paper trail.
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