Morning Freeper radio -- On Bush's threat to veto anti-torture bill

[LittleClarkie]

First of all, how can we talk about Bush's wartime powers when he refuses to treat detainees as prisoners of "war".

But anyway, local freeper radio DJ brought up Vietnam and how the POWs in that war would think what has happened so far to the detainees was a walk in the park.

Hey, moron. THE BILL WAS WRITTEN BY A VIETNAM POW! HELLO!!??

Oh, my head.

[BattyDem]

1. Can someone please explain something to me?

Today, Bush* said that the United States does not torture people. So ... why does he keep threatening to veto the anti-torture bill? If the US is not torturing people, then we don't need to keep torture as an option ... right? :eyes:

[LittleClarkie]

6. Maybe "everything is on the table"

I dunno. I think he wants his options open. I don't get it either.

I'm glad to hear that the Supreme Court is taking a case re: wartime powers to conduct military tribunals. Or I hope I'm glad. I'm hoping Bush will get the smackdown again re: presidents at war having free reign. But with Roberts there, maybe not.

How can you be a president at war without POWs. If they are enemy combatants, then I guess we have to come up with a different word than "war" for what we're doing over there. "Enemy Combat" maybe? The Iraq Enemy Combat?

Nah, it doesn't "sing" does it.

[Maat]

10. I hope the Supremes state loudly, once and for all,

that your constitutional rights cannot be abrogated just because someone makes up a label ('enemy combatant') and alleges that you are in that group.

I screamed at my bar exam trainer - asking her how I was supposed to talk about habeas corpus, the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments if the Bushies had just acted as if they didn't exist. She told me not to worry about it - the policy would be struck. Too bad many have gone through, or will go through, sheer h*ll before a smackdown.

[BattyDem]

11. If the Supremes don't smack it down ...

then we can burn the constitution because the country that was using it no longer exists. :-(

[Maat]

20. Oh, I'm trying hard not to cry ...

but what you say is true.

;(

[knowbody0]

2. he calls them illegal combatives

with a grin. Truly this is the darkest time for our nation.

[Bjornsdotter]

3. Now, now

...don't be too hard on yourself, some people just can't be educated.


Cheers!

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4. bush has threatened to veto bills with anti-torture components?

really?

Blew my mind today when I heard it reported that bush declared

"we do not torture?"

[LittleClarkie]

8. The McCain anti-torture bill, the one voted on 90 to 10

I believe they said Bush was threatening to veto it.

Gee, I didn't think he knew how to veto stuff. He hardly uses that function.

[JohnnyCougar]

5. Call in

and say that when Rove is tried for treason, we can torture him to get information about Bush.

Then watch their heads explode.

Are you listening to Radio 1130? Is that still the station with Belling and Limbaugh?

God, I'm glad I can't hear that station even accidentally anymore.

[BattyDem]

7. Why wait for Rove? We've got Libby!

And if you think about it ... torturing Libby would probably be more valuable because right now, there aren't any charges against the person who leaked. Libby could provide the information and evidence necessary to bring those charges! :evilgrin:

[buzzard]

12. I posted part of an article from the Toronto Star addressing this.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename...

here is a snip of the article

"Here's an idea, and I can't believe I'm the first to come up with this modest proposal, but why doesn't the U.S. government just go ahead and torture Lewis "Scooter" Libby? And not just for that ridiculous name."


"Of course, there are some Republicans who might be worried that, under torture, Libby might say anything, or implicate anyone, to make the pain go away. Maybe even make stuff up, confess to crimes he didn't commit, just to please the folks putting in the bamboo shoots or flicking the power on or off. But surely Dick Cheney wouldn't be worried about that.
If Cheney were worried that torture can be an unreliable method for extracting the truth, he'd hardly be seeking an exemption from any laws that would ban "cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment of criminal suspects. So he'd be hard pressed to argue that torturing Libby might unfairly incriminate other White House officials. In fact, the very suggestion that Libby would offer up lies while under torture borders on un-American. Surely he's made of better stuff than that.
The only real question remains, who should do it?"
If Fitzgerald feels uncomfortable performing the torture himself, there are any number of foreign countries where Libby could be sent to have it done. He could check with the White House for a complete list.
Like I say, it's just a thought. Maybe Cheney should issue a statement: "I'm so committed to torture for extracting information, I'm willing, as a gesture of goodwill, to have it used on my former chief of staff first."
He'd make a believer out of me.

[BattyDem]

15. LOL!

This is great! Thanks for posting it :toast:

[LittleClarkie]

9. Bob and Brian in the morning. They are amusing when not talking politics

Brian thinks he's Rush Jr.

Uninformed shmuck.

Thank God for 1400 AM out of Racine/Kenosha. I can here Ed Schultz from 2 to 4pm every day!

And the Sundance Channel! Al Franken!

Like a cool drink of water in the desert.

Did you hear that 1130 AM has a liberal person on now from 5 to 8 am? The promos for it are disgusting. They have Ho Chi Minh coming out of the grave to give the new pundit an endorsement. I hope she manages to hang on anyway.

[JohnnyCougar]

16. Really?

WTF??

What happened to Belling? Please tell me he died or something.

Is that Ho Chi Minh thing supposed to be humorous? Or serious?

[LittleClarkie]

18. Belling lives. Sadly. He even subs in for Rush once in a blue moon.

They mean it to be funny, but they are also obviously calling the poor woman a Communist.

They aren't happy that in a "Pick the new morning talk show host" that the internet folks jumped in and elected her. Fair and square I might add. Even Belling said that. But since she's a liberal (also a comedian) they are giving her "the treatment" apparently. I thought it was a disgusting commercial myself. Maybe it would be funny if I were a freeper.

[upi402]

13. Hence the term, "Bushtard"

These fools really are sick.
But sick like wily serial killers.

[LittleClarkie]

14. He also said that rather than be upset to find that the CIA has secret

prisons for detainees, he was pissed that our secret prisons are being revealed, as they are needed for the CIA to get at the truth.

I'm glad he's in the minority now -- those who still approve of the war.

[JohnnyCougar]

17. Is this on Lazer 103?

If it is, I'm giving them a call tomorrow about that heinous rhetoric. Those fuckers were pissing me off a year ago!

[LittleClarkie]

19. They're called The HOG now. As in the motorcycle. But yeah that's them

I like them when they're not talking politics. Brian esp.

http://www.1029thehog.com/

I'm thinking about emailing them, myself. I don't think he realizes the anti-torture bill was the work of a Vietnam POW. Moran.

[JohnnyCougar]

21. If we both e-mail them, maybe they will listen more.

I'm doing it right now. Just say you were listening to the radio program, and you almost drove off the road when you heard them cheering for torture. :-) They'll listen then. It's not like it's an illegitimate complaint.

I'm going to e-mail them and tell them that my 8-year old kid was listening along with me, and he asked me "Daddy, why does this radio guy say that torture is good when you have always taught me that it is bad?" Then, I'll tell them I said, "It's because he is a calamitous idiot, son. He hates freedom just like Osama bin-Laden." And then I'll tell them my son said, "Why do they let him talk, then?" To which I'll respond, "I don't know, son, I just don't know...these are dolorous times, boy."

Ok...maybe I'm getting a little bit carried away, but you get the picture. :-)