The Official Conservative Christians are Puppets Thread

[ck4829]

"The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees ... Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them."

Who said this?

Some Godless Liberal?

No...

It was former DeLay Aide and Abramoff Friend, Michael Scanlon.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5259739
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html

[ComerPerro]

1. LMAO

[nickyt]

2. Holy Cow!! I have emailed Pat Roberts, Jim Bakker, Jessie Helms,

The American Evangelistic Association, "Omega Letter", "Prophecy Update", and 20 xian radio stations - there are a brazillion of them, so I haven't even started yet!...can't find a contact for Jimmy Swaggert or Oral Roberts?
Too fun. The TRUTH will set us all FREE!
Back to werk for me!!
Thank you DU for all you do -
(a special thanks to BigBearJohn & JohnnyCougar!)

[ck4829]

3. Be sure to tell them about Ralph Reed's involvement w/ Abramoff and Gang.

[leftofthedial]

4. have been ever since the first caveman invented "religion"

and used it to control the other cavemen.

[SmokingJacket]

5. Jimmy Carter called himself a conservative Christian this morning

He ain't no puppet.

[ck4829]

6. Republican Conservative Christians

Seriously, I don't have enough space in the bar to post it.

SKINNER!!!! I need more space to type things.

:D

(PS - Maybe I do)

[SmokingJacket]

7. Carter was **great** on NPR this morning.

I quit listening to NPR as much as I used to, but I'm glad I caught him this morning. He differentiates between being a conservative christian and a fundamentalist. He believes that God created the universe, but he acknowledges that it's his religion and has no place in schools -- that he was in fact trained as a nuclear physicist (which I'd forgotten).

He also had a very succinct description of the fundamentalist mindset that I'm not going to attempt to rehash here -- but it was along the lines of that they see everything as a threat to their faith, and therefore their identity.

Anyway, sorry to distract from your main point about DeLay. I hope the DNC puts those quotes on fricking BILLBOARDS so that the religious right can see how they've been USED.

[ducque]

8. Right Wing Wackos -- LTE

I just sent this letter to the 700 names on my media mailing list
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I always wondered if the people in the Bush administration and their
lackeys really believed all that Christian stuff. Now we actually know for sure.

Yesterday, a 318 page document was posted on the US Senate website
(publicly posted at
http://indian.senate.gov/2005hrgs/110205hrg/110205exhibits.pdf). This document contains a huge number of documentary emails sent among Abramoff, (indicted) DeLay aide Mike Scanlon, Ralph Reed, the White House, and others.

On page 117 of that document set, there's a memo from Scanlon. I quote exactly:

"We plan to use three forms of communications to mobilize and win these battles Phones, mail, and Christian radio. We believe that if you are on TV you are generally losing battles like this. Our mission is to get specifically selected groups of individuals to the polls to speak out AGAINST something.

"To that end, your money is best spent finding them and communicating with them on using the modes they are most likely to respond to. Simply put we want to bring out the wackos to vote AGAINST something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them. The wackos get their information from the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees.

"MAIL
"We will communicate with our targeted voters 3 times with Christian alert mail pieces.
...

"CHRISTIAN RADIO
"Most likely we will need to create a broad buzz among our supporters, and a quick way to do this is by advertising on Christian Radio. We will produce and air at least two radio ads that give biblical reasons why Pinnacle should be blocked and the tracks shut down. These will run at the appropriate times and exclusively on Christian radio."



So now we actually see: This is the source code, in black and white, of recent Republican electoral victories: Target religious conservatives, distract everyone else, and then railroad through complex initiatives.

Do Christian conservatives know that the Administration thinks they are "wackos?" What would they think about this memo?

Maybe one shouldn't write down one's plays in a playbook.

[Gregorian]

9. REASON, NOT REVELATION.

This really is big. This is it. Our door has opened. Democrats now have the lead.

Separation of church and state is so that the country functions out of reason, not revelation.

Anyone who wants America to be America, whether conservative or not, must stand away from those who use revelation to run the country. It's not just talk, it's the constitution. It IS American.


I see this as the turning point for us.