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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:50 PM
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YELLOWCAKE.... FORGING A CASE FOR WAR must read
http://amconmag.com/2005/2005_11_07/feature.html




Forging the Case for War


Who was behind the Niger uranium documents?


by Philip Giraldi


From the beginning, there has been little doubt in the intelligence community that the outing of CIA officer Valerie Plame was part of a bigger story. That she was exposed in an attempt to discredit her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, is clear, but the drive to demonize Wilson cannot reasonably be attributed only to revenge. Rather, her identification likely grew out of an attempt to cover up the forging of documents alleging that Iraq attempted to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:52 PM
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1. He was on KO tonight
good stuff
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:54 PM
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3. We need more people like him.
He was great. The interviewer was solid too.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:53 PM
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2.  I was just about to post this--- guess you were watching too.
WOW-- truly unexpected report-- WOW. Finally they are talking about the Niger Documents- and with a credible, Conservative Ex-CIA officer--- talk about making my night.

READ THE PIECE folks!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 09:21 PM
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5. Yes, I did see him being interviewed! I couldn't wait to get hands
on the article! :)
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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:54 PM
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4. I listened to it all. I thought he made sense. Although, if you
ask me now to repeat all that he said, I couldn't. Glad there is a link to his article above.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 09:22 PM
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6. It is becoming more obvious that the VP should be...
the target of the Fraud of Iraq War case.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 09:56 PM
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10. This is a major reason why
Democrats must insist on CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS....A MUST
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mtowngman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 09:22 PM
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7. Great read
explains alot-thanks
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 09:26 PM
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8. Is that a Gannon ad in the left side of the page? lol
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 09:37 PM
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9. Enter Ledeen! Ledeen, Ledeen, LEDEEN!
Edited on Mon Oct-31-05 09:40 PM by leftchick
<snip>

Enter Michael Ledeen, the Office of Special Plans’ man in Rome. Ledeen was paid $30,000 by the Italian Ministry of the Interior in 1978 for a report on terrorism and was well known to senior SISMI officials. Italian sources indicate that Pollari was eager to engage with the Pentagon hardliners, knowing they were at odds with the CIA and the State Department officials who had slighted him. He turned to Ledeen, who quickly established himself as the liaison between SISMI and Feith’s OSP, where he was a consultant. Ledeen, who had personal access to the National Security Council’s Condoleezza Rice and Stephen Hadley and was also a confidant of Vice President Cheney, was well placed to circumvent the obstruction coming from the CIA and State.

~snip~

On Sept. 9, 2002, Ledeen set up a secret meeting between Pollari and Deputy National Security Adviser Hadley. Two weeks before the meeting, a group of documents had been offered to journalist Elisabetta Burba of the Italian magazine Panorama for $10,000, but the demand for money was soon dropped and the papers were handed over. The man offering the documents was Rocco Martino, a former SISMI officer who delivered the first WMD dossier to London in October 2002. That Martino quickly dropped his request for money suggests that the approach was a set-up primarily intended to surface the documents.



..oh how I want to see that MFer pay... :grr:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:25 PM
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11. Wow.
The last paragraph in that article is a killer:


The possible forgery of the information by Defense Department employees would explain the viciousness of the attack on Valerie Plame and her husband. Wilson, when he denounced the forgeries in the New York Times in July 2003, turned an issue in which there was little public interest into something much bigger. The investigation continues, but the campaign against this lone detractor suggests that the administration was concerned about something far weightier than his critical op-ed.






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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:51 PM
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12. I saw the KO interview of Giraldi...
and I almost fell off of the couch! We also know Fitzgerald is investigating the Italian connection. :D
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 11:19 PM
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14. There are many non-liberal, non-democrat websites and
other writers who are intensely skeptical about this Plame affair. And many of them have been disgusted by * for some time now.

So if some Bush-bought pundit gets up there and says "all this scandal is, is the democrats trying to smear Dear Leader", we should hit them with the fact that it's not just democrats who want * GONE.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 11:16 PM
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13. Even a 'zine called "The American Conservative" is against the * regime.
Of course, * has never "conserved" anything except his own fortune...
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 12:22 AM
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17. Guess who owns the 'zine...
Pat Buchanan. Look at this tidbit recently posted by Giraldi on Buchanan's website:

In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_08_01/article3.html
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Uncle Roy Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 12:29 AM
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18. They've been fairly vocal in opposing this war
"The American Conservative" is Patrick Buchanan's magazine. Buchanan is not a particularly nice fellow, and wouldn't win any popularity contests here on DU for his stands on very many issues (Goggle "buchanan" and "aids" to get a feel for his nastiness).

But, he has long felt that if American soldiers are going to be sent to fight and die overseas, there had better be a damned good reason for it. And America's national interest ranks high on his list of good reasons. So far no reason at all, good OR bad, has been offered for the current war, and he's been against it from the start.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:57 AM
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21. Buchanan also wrote in American Conservative against the neocons
and their desire for Imperialism. He has also run a group of great articles by Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski about the neocons coup in the Pentagon. They were even reprinted in Military Week!

http://www.militaryweek.com/kk120103.shtml

In Rumsfeld's Shop
A senior Air Force officer watches as the neocons consolidate their Pentagon coup.

By Karen Kwiatkowski

This article first appeared in the 01 December 03 issue of American Conservative. Reprinted by permission.

Part 1 : In Rumsfeld's Shop Part 2 : Conscientious Objector Part 3 : Open Door Policy



Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski recently retired from the U.S. Air Force. Her final posting was as an analyst at the Pentagon. Below is the first of three installments describing her experience there. They provide a unique view of the Department of Defense during a period of intense ideological upheaval, as the United States prepared to launch—for the first time in its history—a "preventive" war.


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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 11:29 PM
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15. 10/29 Interview with Giraldi & Dreyfuss here - audio
http://www.weekendinterviewshow.com/

2005-10-29

Philip Giraldi / Bob Dreyfuss
Download MP3     Listen Stream Audio

Scott discusses the Libby indictment, Niger uranium forgeries, etc. with former CIA agent Philip Giraldi and veteran reporter Bob Dreyfuss.


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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 11:34 PM
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16. Giraldi was incredible tonight on KO...
and just think this is coming out in a conservative publication!!

hey cheney...the cia is after ya ...watch it cheney..the cia really wants ya!!..they loveeeeeeee ya cheney!!!

they want you bad cheney!!

and not for a halloween party!!

cia agents were all over the map on cable tonight!!

go get him cia...we will be watching!!

and awaiting his downfall!!

eagerly..

fly


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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 01:09 AM
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19. Other Threads on the Article/Olbermann Story:
Latest Breaking News forum
Forging the Case for War (Bush Admin may be involved in Niger Forgeries)
Topic started by jsamuel on Oct-31-05 08:59 PM (18 replies)

Editorials & Other Articles forum
Who was behind the Niger documents (Bush? connection to Niger forgeries)
Topic started by papau on Oct-31-05 09:59 PM (1 replies)

GD: CIA Leak Case forum
YELLOWCAKE.... FORGING A CASE FOR WAR must read
Topic started by OmmmSweetOmmm on Oct-31-05 08:50 PM (18 replies)

GD: Everything Else forum
The American Conservative: Admin may be involved in Niger Forgeries
Topic started by jsamuel on Oct-31-05 08:54 PM (8 replies)

Olbermann was talking about the Niger Documents
Topic started by Cush on Oct-31-05 08:44 PM (2 replies)

Coming together now..... forging the case for war.... Giraldi, OSP
Topic started by 4MoronicYears on Oct-31-05 08:41 PM (1 replies)

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 02:47 AM
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20. Credit Where Credit Due: Trajan apparently posted it first...
Edited on Tue Nov-01-05 02:52 AM by Hissyspit
Forging The Case For War ... The Bigger Story behind the Story ...
Topic started by Trajan on Oct-30-05 11:41 AM (2 replies)

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:01 AM
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22. Great find Ommmm!!
:yourock:
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