Something's wrong at CNN: They're doing a blistering report on WH

[cynatnite]

It's about the leadup to the war, WHIG is mentioned, the CIA and all of it. The CIA has no evidence to support speeches made in regards to going to war.

[opihimoimoi]

Its all bull shit...everyone knows Bush don lie cheat steal...thats the

Dem way of doing things

:sarcasm:

[Guaranteed]

15. Damned librul media.

:P

[xultar]

1. Dead Wrong? They've played it before. I'm glad they are doing repeats

now.

[cynatnite]

2. I've never seen it before...

It's good so far.

[Hissyspit]

21. Well-worth it. Must see. For a good # of Americans, it was the first they

heard of some of this stuff or had it tied together.

Interesting timing to rerun it now!

[FourStarDemocrat]

40. However their title is wrong..it blames the CIA without alluding to

many reports that have come out in the past two years discussing that good CIA intelligence was purposely slanted, twisted,and carefully selected or downplayed to fit with the Administration's motives to sell the war.

[fearnobush]

3. The tied in Downing Street memo's quite nicely.

[ElectroPrincess]

4. Just perhaps ...

Bush-Co is becoming bad for BIG Multi-National Business?

After all, the true *big players* do not want Armageddon and the corresponding premature arrival of The Rapture. Anyone who reads current events, in depth, is frightened as hell of what this Radical Right Wing Executive Branch may do next. :scared:

[Mist]

12. Yep--they had no idea what loonies they were helping into power. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

37. I think so too

Someone on Malloy from tvnewslies.org mentioned this tonight too. He thought that maybe the media was going against the media cause of "management" and they're going to bring Bush down. :shrug: Interesting timing though.

[cynatnite]

5. They rely on one analyst who doesn't know what he's talking about

Another guy thinks someone authorized the leak and it was misreported.

WH took it, ran with it and embelished it.

[merwin]

6. I firmly believe that the MSM generally pounces on the 'top story'

no matter if it is right or left. At the moment it's popular to bash the white house. As a business, it's more profitable to play to the majority... and until recently the president had a significant amount of support. Now that the support has worn away, they're jumping on the 'bash the WH' bandwagon :-)

[newswolf56]

25. Absolutely correct. The true bias in U.S. corporate journalism...

is "anything for the bottom line" -- which typically means pandering to the lowest common (bourgeois/public) denominator: missing (white blonde) co-eds, ghetto violence (whether imaginary or real), natural disasters, other tales told by idiots, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing," the circus component of the modern variant of bread and circuses.

The one exception -- the one circumstance in which there is genuine bias and real censorship -- is of any story that accurately reflects the savage underbelly of capitalism or calls into question any of the capitalist shibboleths. Note for example the methodical suppression of stories about the aftermath of Bhopal, Exxon Valdez or Enron, or the runaway Enron-like corruption in Iraq and New Orleans, both intimately associated with Halliburton and the Republican money machine.

A superb overview of how this came to be is Doug Underwood's thoroughly researched When MBAs Rule the Newsroom (Columbia University Press; New York: 1993). The hardcover version is priced at $70 -- an obvious ploy to keep it out of the hands of the general public -- but used paperback versions are available online for as little as $5.

The one point to which Underwood gives far too little emphasis is the influence of corporate personnel-office ("human resources") polices on the modern newsroom's collective consciousness. In former times (as when I got my start in journalism and until approximately the '80s), editorial personnel were hired directly by the supervising editors for whom they would work: intelligence, skill and talent (demonstrated or potential) were the chief intellectual criteria upon which reporters were chosen; driving curiosity, individualism, a sense of irony and a penchant for iconoclasm -- especially the ability to boldly ask "unthinkable" questions -- were the primary psychological requirements. But the media monopolies changed all that, adopting the hiring policies characteristic of all giant corporations: this means, first, that all job applicants have to be vetted by the personnel office before they are passed on to an editor and, secondly, that the vetting process -- typical of Big Business -- is intended to weed out everyone who possesses even a trace of the psychological independence that was formerly THE identifying trait of the U.S. print journalist. Instead the only acceptable hires are now typical corporate drones: lockstep conformists, malevolently bourgeois, whose greatest expressions of selfhood are not in their reporting ability but in brown-nosing, back-stabbing and ratting out their colleagues. Thus the content of modern corporate journalism and the lynch-mob reporting of modern "journalists." The exceptions -- among them Helen Thomas -- are fewer with each passing season.

As a major-newspaper colleague says while counting -- with the zeal of a short-timer in Vietnam -- the days to retirement: "One of the reasons I went into journalism was because I didn't want to work in an insurance office. But then a monopoly bought the paper. Now because of the kind of people the company hires, it's not only an insurance office, but an insurance office from hell."

(For those who don't know, I am a semi-retired newspaperman, veteran of a reporting and editing career that spans 45 years and includes work on both mainstream and alternative publications.)

[NoBushSpokenHere]

29. The New Orleans Toxic chemcials into the Gulf

is another example of what newswolf refers to:

Quote "The one exception -- the one circumstance in which there is genuine bias and real censorship -- is of any story that accurately reflects the savage underbelly of capitalism or calls into question any of the capitalist shibboleths. Note for example the methodical suppression of stories about the aftermath of Bhopal, Exxon Valdez or Enron, or the runaway Enron-like corruption in Iraq and New Orleans, both intimately associated with Halliburton and the Republican money machine."

We were told by some federal agency that the sludge wasn't dangerous. The media said, "Okay" and how many questioned this? How many photographs of the Gulf after pumping NO have surfaced? Where did all the toxins go? Why aren't people concerned about this? Who profits from repressing this story? These are the questions we need to be asking. These are the questions the media should have been asking and maybe were, but were forced to repress. Demand Accountability.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Oh sure

Bush is very unpopular now obviously.

[spindrifter]

7. We interrupt this program

to admit that finally the MNM has been taken over by inquiring minds who want to get to the bottom of this cesspit that has taken over modern American government. We will take every opportunity to investigate just who it is that thinks it's acceptable to build a war on bullsh*t and sacrifice American lives and the lives of innocent Iraqi's in order to help some demented demagogue's realize their dreams of power and wealth.
We will never complacently accept the pap fed to us by WH press conferences. We know we are subject to having the Fifth Estate permanently taken away from us due to our irresponsible coverage of contemporary affairs. We apologize. And we promise not to bother the American psyche with any more stupid commercials.

[MADem]

26. Hey, when they went after Timmy "Meet Tim Russert" and tried to blame HIM

for leaking Plame's name (remember, Scooter said it was TIMMY who told him the name, and when Timmy finally testified, he said BULLSHIT!). Consequently, the rest of the journos, who do not have as high a profile as Mr. Potato Head, all started getting a case of the MAJOR PUCKERS.

If they could go after Toady Timmy, and throw HIM to the wolves, who might be next????

That's what made them grow a set--self preservation, the first law.

[cynatnite]

8. CNN is showing the lies of the admin!

CIA has no solid evidence of connection with OBL and Iraq. WH ignores it.

[cynatnite]

9. Tenet defended bad intelligence

What a dick :grr:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

22. Bull. When the smoke clears in about 15-20 years, ...

...we'll discover that Tenet was secretly marshalling worldwide Intel assets against the NeoCons. Tenet didn't become the Director of the CIA just because someone thought he'd be good at the job...he spent nearly 30 years making himself good at his job.

The only "evidence" that we have claiming that Tenet supported the idea that Iraq had WMDs comes from Bob Woodward who allegedly used NeoCons for his sources. IMHO, Woodward has a highly suspect background making his credibility about that of the rest of the NeoCons.

[cynatnite]

24. From what this report is saying...

Tenet told the WH what they wanted to hear for the most part.

You could well be right, but please...don't shoot the messenger :hi:

[cynatnite]

10. WHIG releases a so-called intelligence document to back up their claims...

The dubious claims are played down.

[Catherine Vincent]

11. What a coincidence they repeat that show tonight.

I guess they're not 100% whore.

[cynatnite]

13. The 16 words!

There was a dispute between CIA and the WH over allowing it. The issue was politicized.

[Guaranteed]

14. It's almost as if they've suddenly realized that ChimpCo doesn't

have our best interests in mind.

[northamericancitizen]

18. only a illusion of power only a illusion

[cynatnite]

16. Wilkerson calls the speech Powell gave a chinese menu...

that was picked and chosen. Powell expressed deep reservations over the entire speech. He made Tenet sit behind him at the UN in camera.

[Wordie]

31. Wilkerson's recent speech called the WHIG a cabal. Good for him.

I was concerned though, to see Jon Stewart make fun of him and his speech on his show. What was that about? Jon is against the war, so it didn't make sense.

Wilkerson called the Powell speech "the lowest point in my life."

[cynatnite]

33. I really felt for Wilkerson when watching him...

It was a personal blow to him.

Jon's a comedian. Don't take it seriously. :)

[Wordie]

39. I felt bad for him too. What an awful thing to have to be a party to.

True about Jon being a comedian, yet I also know he shapes opinion, whether that should be the case or not. And so that's why it bothered me.

[cynatnite]

17. Talking about Curveball and is a known liar

Powell was kept out of the loop over this person who provided bad info.

[cynatnite]

19. No mention of Wilson or Niger at all n/t

[bluedawg12]

20. Circle the wagons

:evilgrin:
:argh:
:puke:

The WHIGS COME CLEEN!

:hurts:
:wtf:


Make 'em tell the truth.
:spank:





:nuke:

[cynatnite]

23. David Kay wants to quit after six months...Tenet asks him to wait n/t

[madrchsod]

27. ------------------no one is watching----------------

they can say all this stuff because they know
-----------------no one is watching------------------

[texpatriot2004]

28. I am watching...taping to share too. nm

[Wordie]

30. CNN gets something very RIGHT with this program (recommendation #5)

And here is a link to some printed info at CNN.com, for those who missed the program. I hope they will replay it again soon, but didnt' see it on their schedule.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/19/powell.un/index.html

[Broken_Hero]

32. Its about time...

They can really put the screws to the WH, cause of all that back up tape, and news rolls that they took on pre war speeches and what notsw...its freaking beautiful...:)

[Hekate]

34. Every so often they remember their journalistic spine or other body parts

I didn't watch it all because, after all, I read DU ;-) and watch PBS. Nevertheless I was very encouraged by the sight.

Hekate

[upi402]

35. Larry King was spectacularly TEPID!

What a waste of air time. The master of zero substance fills still more time with still more nothing. Finding guests so directly in the middle of the road is an art. He's just so dang zen!

The absolute DINO brilliance of the Democrat from California in finding an angle that completely misses the Whitehouse was impressively depressing. National security can be violated by the Republicans in the WH -she could have come out and said it- instead, she ducked and dodged the obvious target. Say it to the TV audience or let another go on TV!

What Would Welstone Do?

[FreedomAngel82]

36. Is this the one

that's called "Dead Wrong"?? Or is it something new?

[cassiepriam]

41. Honey you are having a dream, time to wake up.

[Robert Oak]

42. where were they

in 2002, 2003?

any idiot could see if it was a fabrication then.

[Mr_Spock]

43. Yep, it's called Dead Wrong. It's nice & timely.

Bushco deserves to be exposed for the lying mass-murdering war criminals that they are...

[checks-n-balances]

44. And what's wrong with Tweety, too? Now he's discovered that we were misled

or rather, he and the other JOURNALISTS were misled!

Gee, I wonder why we figured that out and they didn't?? Does that mean we're better journalists for the truth??

BTW, thanks for mentioning this special, even though it's a rerun & I missed it for the second time.

[MellowOne]

45. People are talking

Hoping Fritz will shortly give them something more to talk about.