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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:47 AM
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When the votes don't add up - Making a case for how the religious right
When the votes don't add up

Making a case for how the religious right hijacked the '04 election.

By Timothy Dodson
Staff Writer
Posted October 23 2005

Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them). Mark Crispin Miller. Basic Books. $24.95. 284 pp.

What would it do to Americans' image of themselves, their country and their democracy if it turned out that a presidential election had been stolen?

That's the question Mark Crispin Miller, author of The Bush Dyslexicon, challenges Americans to ask themselves in his latest book, Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them).

Miller has done his homework, and his sources are numerous and scrupulously footnoted. He comes close to convincing an open-minded reader that the 2004 election was a gigantic fraud. His exhortation to Democrats "not to milk it for partisan advantage but to use it to promote, and realize, electoral reform" is the book's stated purpose, and Miller does make a strong case for reform.

MORE...
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/booksmags/sfl-bktimmilleroct23,0,1064045.story?coll=sfla-features-books
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:48 AM
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1. more
Although some readers may discount his hard-to-prove charge of vote stealing via machine tampering, reports of touch-screen voting machines flipping votes from Kerry to Bush but never the other way around, are hard to ignore, as are reports that the many anomalies that occurred in Ohio all favored Bush, defying the law of averages if not common sense.

Miller offers compelling evidence of suppression of Democratic votes in a number of states, most notably and most effectively in Ohio and Florida. He also examines the discrepancies between both pre-election polls and Election Day exit polls and the actual outcome.

Post-election analysis found that Bush's "base" voted for him in about the same numbers as in 2000. But Democrats had been far more successful in registering new voters, particularly in Florida and Ohio. Both the polls and the registration numbers suggested a larger turnout for Kerry than for Bush, yet Bush won. It doesn't add up.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:01 AM
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2. Now there are two issues: one is how to bring this to the forefront so
that it simply CANNOT be ignored by the 'Murkin sheeple, and the other is how to ensure that rePiglicans do not retain control of the voting machines/vote counting process.
If we don't fix that before the midterms, nothing else will matter.
I keep thinking of the grim faces of Karen Hughes and the other Reich Wing whores on election night, knowing they had lost the election and knowing they would have to trot out a big lie in order to cover up the theft: "The exit polls were wrong, yeah...that's the ticket." and pray that it wouldn't be questioned.
And the media, and the sheeple, and even the Democratic candidate all rolled over and let it happen with barely a whimper.
We have ourselves to blame as much as the thieves.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:06 AM
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3. I agree - I think about the Ukrainians out there in the streets demanding
a fair election and then I think about what DIDN'T happen here.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:10 AM
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4. In my DU meetup group here in Minnesota, it's one of the issues we're
dealing with. I think we need an ongoing assignment in the activist corps to address this issue RELENTLESSLY until it gets some press and some attention and resolution.
Hey! How about organizing some demonstrations/LTTE campaigns etc. for local election day/other time?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:15 AM
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6. excellent idea! Locally I have started a non-partisan group called
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 10:17 AM by helderheid
U-VOTE - Utah Voters for Open and Transparent Elections. Utah JUST went Diebold. We will need to monitor the 2006 elections closeley and do exactly as you've said - write letters and make noise.

I am hoping for a ballot initiative via my group that would have us go to a vote by mail system. I'm not sure if that is the most ideal system - it's certainly cheaper and would give us paper ballots - it's one that the SL County Clerk has said she would support, as well as people in her office and the Salt Lake County Mayor.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:21 AM
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7. There was a big ad in I think the NYT asking would people use an ATM
that didn't give them a receipt? of course not...why use a voting machine that won't? and of course, many ATMs are made by Diebold (like the ones at my bank, and they spit out receipts just fine.)

I am gonna hop into Activist HQ and see if there's anything like this going on, and if not, see if we can organize one.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:23 AM
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8. We will have a paper reciept on our machines. The problem is they won't
be audited. Without meaningful audits, a receipt doesn't matter. It may make things worse giving people a false sense of security. The screen says you voted for X. The Paper receipt says you voted for X. The recorded vapor vote in the machine says you voted for Y and THAT is the vote on record, not the paper receipt.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:30 AM
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9. Yeppers, didn't mean to ignore that; just making the point that there is
an effort to get people thinking about this, and that we need to be behind it and keep it in the public eye. I agree, auditing is CRUCIAL.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:32 AM
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10. thank you. That has always been my problem with receipts. So
what I get a receipt? Unless all the receipts are tallied and found to match the machine count exactly, it means nothing. Less than nothing, because now the voter (the ones who don't think it through, that is) is falsely confident.

I saw the ad, and forgot to see who bought it. Is it just another attempt to lull the public into thinking something is being done?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:41 AM
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12. I don't think so; there was quite a bit of talk about it here the other
day but would have to hunt for the thread. I'll do some looking and see what I find.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:47 AM
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14. here's the ad
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:56 AM
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15. Thanks! in the text, it appears that they are aware that auditing would
be necessary, and that a verifiable paper trail would be an important component of that.
Looks like a group called People for Fair Elections; will have to check them out.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:04 AM
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16. their address is in DC but I cannot find a website
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:28 AM
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25. They had honest exit polls in the Ukraine, which alerted the citizenry to
...to the fraud. Here, the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, acting in concert, DOCTORED the exit poll data (Kerry won), late on election day, to FIT the results of Diebold's and ES&S's SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code, thus HIDING major evidence of election fraud from the American people and squelching protests and calls for investigation.

Give Americans a break. They can only absorb so much lying and horror and thievery and treason, and maintain their discernment and will to act. The information that two far rightwing Bushite corporations had gained control of the vote tabulation, with "trade secret," proprietary programming code, and that the news monopolies would put FALSE NUMBERS on our TV screens, was out there--they could have known it--but then, none our political leadership said anything (not. one. word.), and everybody was very busy getting all their non-voting family members, friends and co-workers to register and vote THIS TIME, because "this is the most important election in our history," and our political leaders have promised that "every vote will be counted."

They tried. They did. They voted these bastards out of office. Now they have to face the horror that they are not permitted to do that, and that the entire corporate news establishment, and much of the Democratic Party leadership, and all of the Republican Party leadership don't give a flying !@#$ about democracy any more.

Throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!



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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:35 AM
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28. permalinking and saving this post.
it IS overwhelming.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:27 AM
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29. Throw out the e-voting, NOW
Yes, the people did what was required. We voted the bums out, but the elite went along with the steal because it would have upset their private party. The people's voice was censored and refuted.

Well, we're just gonna have to fight a little harder. Hell, it's not like any of us are gonna lose our lives over this - getting our voice back. However, there have been many a brave soldier who did die in order that our voice be heard freely and loudly. It is nothing less than honoring those sacrifices made for us that we are fighting for.

E-voting is corrupting our culture and destroying our honor, and belittling all the sacrifices ever made for America.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:13 AM
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5. everytime i think of this it makes me madder at the democrats in
power.
it was obvious before 2000 that things were starting to get crooked all over the country.
"rob georgia", they did, and the congress with it.
plenty of warnings, plenty of evidence.
they repeatedly do almost nothing and say almost nothing until it is too late.
worse in 02, an absolute criminal joke by 04.
yet the dems still sit back and let it happen without much effort, still have done very little.

kerry, even with people screaming foul and the election being a total sham, capitulated the next damn day.

I am so fed up with them Im going to burst.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:33 AM
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11. thank you for recognizing that...I had someone jump on me here the other
day for calling Kerry a pussy for rolling over and letting it happen; I too was disgusted at how soon he gave in, after his statement that he would not concede until all the votes were counted. Yeah, right, whatever...
And all of us who just sat around in our living rooms screaming at the TV are responsible as well; that's why I think it so important that we get off our collective asses and make sure people know about this, will be pissed about it, and pissed enough to get involved and make sure it changes!!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:42 AM
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13. Understandable
This fiasco has been a long time in the making. It is a system that through the regular politics of republicanism has devolved to a point that only an elite few make all the decisions.

The big money people love the way it has transpired. It has made it so much easier for them to control the media and the congress.

What they count on is people's inherent trust in the election process, but that trust is rapidly disappearing, eh?.

Now is not time to give up, it is time to become more involved. Learning just how elections can be stolen is the first step to recovery of our country's democratic health.
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:27 PM
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17. they are still fighting against the VerifiedVoting current petitions
http://verifiedvotinglobby.blogspot.com Tom Feeny even is pusing an alternative BU**SH** bill to compete with the Rep. Russs Holt's HR550 !
We need to do something NOV 2nd www.worldcantwait.org I read in an e-mail that Progressive Dems have endorsed this call , as well as Cindy Shehan and of course many many more...
the indicments will help but we must not just kick back and wait.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:58 PM
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18. Feeny - the same guy in this scandal:
http://bradblogtoo.blogspot.com/2004/12/original-brad-blog-whistleblower.html

WHISTLEBLOWER AFFIDAVIT: Programmer Built Vote Rigging Prototype at Republican Congressman's Request!

CLAIM: Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) Asked Company to Create E-Vote Fraud Software!

*** A BRAD BLOG EXCLUSIVE! PLEASE CREDIT! ***

In stunning revelations set to rock the vote from Tallahassee to Capitol Hill -- and perhaps even a bit further up Pennsylvania Avenue -- a Florida computer programmer has now made remarkable claims in a detailed sworn affidavit, signed this morning and obtained exclusively by The BRAD BLOG!

- Affidavit in .PDF format

The programmer claims that he designed and built a "vote rigging" software program at the behest of then Florida Congressman, now U.S. Congressman, Republican Tom Feeney of Florida's 24th Congressional District.

Clint Curtis, 46, claims that he built the software for Feeney in 2000 while working at a sofware design and engineering company in Oviedo, Florida (Feeney's home district).

Curtis, in his affidavit, says that as technical advisor and programmer at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI) he was present at company meetings where Feeney was present "on at least a dozen occasions".

Feeney, who had run in 1994 as Jeb Bush's running-mate in his initial unsuccessful bid for Florida Governor, was serving as both corporate counsel and registered lobbyist for YEI during the period that Curtis worked at the company. Feeney was also concurrently serving as a Florida state congressman while performing those services for YEI. Feeney would eventually become Speaker of the Florida House before being elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2002. He is now a member of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee.

At an October 2000 meeting with Feeney, according to the affidavit and BRAD BLOG interviews with Curtis over the past three days, Feeney inquired whether the company could build a "vote fraud software prototype".

At least three YEI employees are said to have been present at that meeting; Curtis, company owner, Mrs. Li Woan Yang, and her executive secretary, Mike Cohen. Two other YEI employees may have come in and out at different points of the meeting according to Curtis.

Curtis says that Feeney "was very specific in the design and specifications required for this program. "He detailed, in his own words, that; (a) the program needed to be touch-screen capable (b) the user should be able to trigger the program without any additional equipment (c) the programming to accomplish this needed to stay hidden even if the source code was inspected."

Though there was no problem with the first two requirements, Curtis explained to the Congressman that it would be "virtually impossible to hide such code written to change the voting results if anyone is able to review the uncompiled source code"Nonetheless, he was asked at the meeting by Mrs. Yang to build the prototype anyway.

Curtis, "a life-long Republican" at the time, claims that it was his initial belief that Feeney's interest was in trying to stop Democrats from using "such a program to steal an election". Curtis had assumed that Feeney, "wanted to be able to detect and prevent that if it occurred."Upon delivery of the software design and documentation on CD to Mrs. Yang, Curtis again explained to her that it would be impossible to hide routines created to manipulate the vote if anybody would be able to inspect the precompiled source code.

Mrs. Yang then told him, "You don’t understand, in order to get the contract we have to hide the manipulation in the source code. This program is needed to control the vote in South Florida." Mrs. Yang then took the CD containing the software from Curtis, reportedly for later delivery to Feeney.

In other meetings with Feeny prior to the 2000 elections, it became clear to Curtis that Feeney had plans to suppress the vote in strong Democratic precincts. In the affidavit, Curtis claims that in those meetings Feeney had "bragged that he had already implemented 'exclusion lists' to reduce the 'black vote'." Feeney also mentioned that "proper placement of police patrols could further reduce the black vote by as much as 25%."

Curtis says that he submitted his resignation to YEI effective December 2000, but stayed on until they had found someone to replace him in February of 2001. He eventually became employed by the Florida Dept. of Transportation (FDOT) after leaving YEI.

But the scandals didn't stop there.In May of 2001, while at FDOT, Curtis and another FDOT employee, Mavis Georgalis, discovered and then reported several allegations to the Inspector General at FDOT concerning over-billing by YEI -- who had been an FDOT contractor -- and software that was never delivered by the company. Allegations also included the employment of a suspected illegal alien, Mr. Hai Lin Nee, who worked as YEI's "quality control" manager. Both Curtis and Georgalis were reportedly harassed after filing their complaints about malfeasance at YEI and pressure mounted on the FDOT -- purportedly from the powerful Feeney who was still working with YEI -- to have them both fired.

In November 2001, after Curtis filed his complaints at FDOT, both he and Georgalis' were subsequently sued by YEI "in retaliation" for their complaints against the company. The charge was "theft of intellectual property", which Curtis has catagorized as "ridiculous" in interviews, because the "intellectual property" in question was, in fact, software that FDOT had long ago paid YEI to develop for them.

YEI was represented in the lawsuit by Congressman Feeney's law firm.When the two had sought help from FDOT in fighting YEI's suit against them, they were told that FDOT couldn't help them because FDOT had not been named in the suit.After several rounds of court battles, Georgalis was finally successful in having FDOT added to the suit as a third co-defendant. The suit was originally filed in Seminole County, but moved to Leon County upon the addition of FDOT.

In April of 2002 -- on the very same day -- Curtis and Georgalis were both fired by FDOT without explanation.The Daytona Beach News-Journal reported extensively in 2002 on the case. They reported at the time that Curtis had written to the Inspector General at FDOT to inquire why no investigation had yet been made into YEI. As well, Curtis had contacted the Florida Bar, since Feeney was a member, to inform them that "Feeney has used his position to promote the profits of Yang Enterprises, from whom he received compensation under the guise of lobbyist and attorney."

According to The Orlando Sentinel in 2001, of 160 Florida congressmen, Feeney was the only known registered lobbyist. He would later be cleared of all ethics violations brought against him in the Florida house on these matters by the Ethics Committee which included four Republicans appointed to the committee by Feeney. Curtis was never interviewed by the Ethics Committee concerning his allegations.

After Curtis and Georgalis were fired by FDOT, each attempted to file "Whistleblower Suits" in the state of Florida. Georgalis' suit was successful and FDOT was eventually ordered, after lengthy court battles, to reinstate her with full back-pay by the circuit court. Curtis' suit was not successful due to having missed the filing deadline for the suit.

That suit, filed over three years ago, is still pending. The reason, explained Curtis, is that YEI has since avoided all defendants attempts to depose company employees in the case.

By May of 2002, the FDOT had finally taken up the investigation into malfeasance by YEI.

In one particularly chilling paragraph in the affidavit, Curtis explains what became of Raymond Lemme, the inspector at FDOT who was said to be pursing the allegations against YEI, Tom Feeney and the other reported matters:

" n June of 2003, he told me that he had tracked the corruption 'all the way to the top' and that the story would break in the next few weeks and I would be satisfied with the results. A few weeks later, on July 1st, Mr. Lemme was found dead with his arm slashed in a hotel room in Valdosta, Georgia."

The death was ruled a suicide by the Valdosta Police. The BRAD BLOG has obtained and is currently reviewing many official documents related to Mr. Lemme's death.

Mr. Hai Lin Nee, "the ilegal alien" who had worked at YEI and was reported by Curtis, was arrested in March of 2004 on espionage charges which included "shipping radar guidance system chips for Hellfire Anti-Tank Missiles to a company in Communist China."Curtis discussed in detail, during our interviews, Mr. Nee having placed "wiretapping modules" into software code created by the company. The secret "wiretapping modules", Curtis claims, were to download information from programs built by YEI for contractors, and then either copy or send that information via Email back to YEI. Such software, Curtis claims, was created for companies such as NASA with whom YEI held substantial contracts.

According to both the Curtis affidavit and email dated November 22, 2004 obtained by The BRAD BLOG, YEI is currently under investigation by the FBI.

That information was sent to Curtis after he had attempted on several occassions to notify law enforcement authorities of his seemingly remarkable story of espionage, possible vote tampering and other ethical concerns.

In July of this year, in an email we've reviewed which purports to be from a current YEI employee whose name we are withholding, Curtis was sent the following message in regard to a book that the employee had learned Curtis was working on:


They know about the book. You should not have sent it to a bush supporter. They are going crazy...like they weren't after you already.

So I get to warn you AGAIN. They will do everything thwey can to keep it from getting published. They are also going to try to take you out again. Don't be alone. They specifically want to limit casualities to just you. As long as they can't catch you alone they won't touch you. You are such a loser........

Moi

In what he describes as "an attempt to get this story out there", Curtis told part of the tale on a website, http://www.justaflyonthewall.com/ where he has changed the names of some of the specific parties involved. (e.g. "Wong" is substituted for "Yang" on the site)

Additional charges by Curtis also include that databases and information were routinely sent by Mrs. Yang to her brother in China who, Yang had told Curtis on one occasion, had previously been deported for "being a spy". The BRAD BLOG has not yet been able to confirm the espionage charges concerning Mrs. Yang's brother.Curtis' affidavit is being turned over this afternoon to staffers at the U.S. House Judiciary Committee. An investigation into Curtis' story is pending.

While we've been working on this story for several days in order to get it right, we had hoped to hold it a bit longer to confirm a few more of the details. As well, we had hoped to allow the Judiciary Committee and others time to comment before making this story widely available.

However, as of late Sunday night, Curtis' story has been reported elsewhere on the Internet by Wayne Madsen. His detailed account references an older, very short affidavit that Curtis had made in regards to the information contained in a self-published book on some of these matters.While Madsen's article was independently researched and reported -- and offers some very good detail in relation to Curtis, YEI, FDOT and Feeney, much of which that we can confirm -- he then ties those stories to a much grander CIA/Bush family conspiracy.While we have looked somewhat cursorily over the last several weeks into some of the larger matters which Madsen discusses, and has been reporting on for some time, we cannot confirm any of those grander details as playing any part in this particular story. While his claims may be true, The BRAD BLOG has seen no evidence to support them as being related to the Curtis story at this time.

Frankly, we find the information related in Curtis' sworn affidavit, and via our interviews with him and others directly related to his story to be rather stunning as is, and we will stand by our reporting of those matters at this time.

Given the importance of the many allegations in his story if they are true -- and we have so far been unable to identify any major holes or discrepancies in his information -- we thought it necessary to release the full details contained in this sworn affidavit immediately so that Curtis' story and the explosive allegations contained therein could be more accurately assessed.

DEVELOPING...HARD...

Brad Friedman is a freelance writer, investigative blogger, software designer and all around trouble maker. He broke the story of the "White House Website Scrubbing" amongst other stories, and has been closely following the story of "GRAND THEFT AMERICA" since Election Day at his site, The BRAD BLOG, which can be read -- when it's not being overwhelmed by traffic -- at http://www.BradBlog.com

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:14 PM
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19. K&R for the rising chorus.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:29 PM
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20. There is also a 'rate this' little icon that follows you on the right hand
side. I thanked him for reviewing the book, and for bringing an otherwise taboo subject into the light of day. I rated his content as neutral...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:30 PM
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21. I'll have to get this listed on my site
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:32 PM
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22. K+R.NT
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:48 PM
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24. K&R n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:01 PM
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23. The Christian right were the foot soldiers.....
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:47 AM
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27. the book review does not explain the "religious right hijacking" at all.
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adwon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:26 AM
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26. Just a thought
"A" presidential election? I can think of at least one other.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:31 PM
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30. I will have to take a look at this book
Thank you for calling it to our attention.
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