Real Time with Bill Maher coming up

[PA Democrat]

Real Time with Bill Maher returns Friday at 11 pm - with guests fmr. Sen. Max Cleland, editor Tina Brown, and comedian Larry Miller. Plus, via satellite, fmr. Sen. John Edwards, Chief Richard Pennington, and author Tom Wolfe.

http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/

[MrSlayer]

1. Pretty good lineup.

Should be interesting.

[mitchtv]

2. Larry Miller takes the "pretty" right out of it

a fucking idiot. almost makes me want to skip it. But, I won't

[BillZBubb]

3. Was "comedian" Larry Miller ever funny?

He's a complete doofus.

[SoCalDem]

5. He's funny like Dennis Miller..related??

:)

[Sydnie]

16. He's kind of holding his own tonight though

it's a quiet panel all the way around

[Cush]

4. kick

[Cush]

6. "Bush / Cheney: Touching Your Life"

lol

[bagimin]

7. get that on "Crooks and Liars"

great...

[Sydnie]

8. That was great! n/t

[Cush]

9. John Edwards up first

[Rowdyboy]

10. He really is looking good......He's pretty high up on my list

[Sydnie]

11. He is the male version of Mary Tyler Moore

"who can turn the world on with his smile" runs through my head every time I see him smile like he just did to Bill's fill in the blank question.

[Rowdyboy]

14. Damn you! Now I'll never be able to see him again without hearing that

song. With a few minor adjustments, it really does fit him nicely....

Who can turn the world on with his smile?
Who can take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile?
Well it's you guy, and you should know it
With each glance and every little movement you show it

Love is all around, no need to waste it
You can have it all, why don't you take it
You're gonna make it after all
You're gonna make it after all


How will you make it on your own?
This world is awfully big, boy this time you're all alone
But it's time you started living
It's time you let your base do some giving

Love is all around, no need to waste it
You can have the nomination, why don't you take it
You're gonna make it after all
You're gonna make it after all

[Sydnie]

15. Wonderful - and in record time too!

Wish we had a high five smiley!

[checks-n-balances]

34. "You're gonna make it after all" - that's the most hopeful part of all

If he can make it in '08, then we could all make it "after all."

[ChairmanAgnostic]

12. I used to like him, but if edwards represents the Dems by taking

a simple question and giving a long-winded, BS answer RATHER than answer the question, we have lost.

STOP ALREADY, JOHN. You sound like Kerry at his worst. Just ANSWER THE QUESTION. Short sweet, to the point. Not a closing statement.

[AmericanDream]

23. What did he say and to what question?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

dupe sorry

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. Maher threw him a softie. W/all Bush problems, if dems lose in 06,

it is because the democratic party is ___________.

Instead of answering honestly, he began a long-winded, canned, recitation that reminded me of the infamous Kerry speech on funding the Iraq invasion. It was though all of the worst speaking habits of Kerry, thinking things through during an answer, had been genetically implanted into Edwards.

Sorry, folks, but if he represents the best face we can show the general public, we are in deep doo doo. How about a simple answer like "STUPID" or INEPT or CLUELESS. Every American understands that the GOP is in serious trouble of their own making. Every American knows that if the Dems fail to make big gains in 06, it is because we are playing it stupid, ineptly or cluelessly. WHY NOT SAY THE OBVIOUS?


Had he done so, he would have endeared himself to the entire audience, and probably raised his value to the party. He also would have started the first necessary step of shedding techniques which do not work in today's marketplace of communication or ideas.

I read with a horrible dull ache and shake through my whole body, that our Democratic leaders are planning to release "the most detailed plan" to fix our country's problems.
Hey, I do not mind the research, the planning and the use of brain power. we need that badly. BUT releasing 'THE MOST DETAILED PLAN" ever to the general public is insane. completely, totally numbbuts stupid. absolutely the worst thing we can even consider doing.

which would the US respond to better, knowing that a majority thinks IRaq was a mistake:

a) We get our troops home. Now. Starting tomorrow at noon. Not all of them, not all at once. We have a responsibility to do it right, and allow the Iraqis to slowly have control over their own country, but surely stand on their own. It will be hard work, but if we do it right, we will have all of them out soon.

b) as we continue to deal with three set of problems concurrently, it has become patently obvious that our presence is now causing more problems. Therefore, we shall continue our efforts to negotiate with elements of various factions, sects and tribal leaders in the hopes of reaching resolutions either on a bilateral, or if possible trilateral bases. This assumes of course that the socio-economic conditions do not worse due to sectarian violence, At the same time, with the use of growing percentages of Iraqi civilian forces, workers and busineses, we shall redouble our efforts to integrate working elements of the infrastructure, including, but not limited to power generation and transmission of electrical power through a segmented grid system, which would offer greater protections against insurgent attacks, errors in construction, war, or technical problems. Also, with respect the water and sewer systems, it is now clear that this critically important element of societal infrastructure has suffered greatly, first from a decade of lack of maintenance during our blockade, and second from the necessary destruction and damage that takes place during any armed incursion. Lastly, these fragile elements are particularly susceptible to insurgent activity, and safeguarding large complex systems, like water supply or waste water reclamation and reuse, require significant investements of trained manpower and security. The longterm plan is to replace private contractors, currently paid for by the US and employing foreign workers and security, the vast majority being US citizens, with a trained, local workforce. This necessarily forces us to review our anit-Baathist rules instituted by Paul Bremer in a shortsighted but error-prone effort to win the hearts and minds. Lastly we will no longer simply train the Iraqi army. We will train to retain. IE once they have some training, they will retain their authority as we begin a phased pull out. They have to learn how to walk on their own; the best way to do that is through practice. It is a firm belief that seeing iraqi faces on their own will substantially lower tha levels of antagonism in most areas, and if we are able to match the Iraqi forces with the sects and segments of population appropriately, we will not suffer the secteriab problems, such as iraqi police or military troops actually siding with one sect over another,often with dire and murderous consequences.


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A and B say precisely the same thing. Which would the American public respond to better?
Edwards gave us B, not A.

[RoyGBiv]

25. 'Scuse please?

To what is this a reference?

[MADem]

32. He had HIS agenda, and who can blame him?

His focus right now is on the Poverty Center tour--that is his agenda at this point in time. It simply isn't wise to get too political too early. Smarter to sit back, do your own thing, and move forward in that fashion.

[Sydnie]

13. Edwards poverty tour info

opportunityrocks.org

so I can check it out after the show

[ultraist]

17. Moveon.org sent out an email about Edwards' poverty tour today

http://www.opportunityrocks.org/tour-2005/tickets/moveon/

[Sydnie]

19. Thanks - I haven't checked my email for a while today

I will look for that one. Thanks for the info.

[DanCa]

18. Cleland is awesome how could the rethugs trash this wonderful man?

[Moochy]

21. He's had the best lines all nite

:)

[johnfunk]

20. FOX FACTS: There's a Black Guy On Your Porch!

ROTFLMAO

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[Moochy]

22. Boo Old People

that was always my alternate tagline for FOX news.

[Blue_Roses]

24. that was so funny

because of how white republicans cringe...

[Pam-Moby]

26. poll

If Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush adminstration." - Do you agree with Bill O'Reilly?



Yes 50%



No 39%



Don't know 11%

[AmericanDream]

27. Could anyone upload it? hmmm....

[Kurovski]

28. I had no idea Max Cleland was so damn funny.

And he sure does enjoy a good laugh, I've never seen a guest bust-up the way Cleland did.

On another more somber note, here's a thread on the comments he made regarding the curious murders in NO.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2159127#2159170

[ClayZ]

29. Brilliant SHOW!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Catch it on ON DEMAND tomorrow!

[npincus]

30. I always do... but it takes 2 days for HBO to put it "On Demand"

I just watched Bill Maher from a week ago Friday... it was GREAT. I loved him getting the last word with the lunatic harpie Coulter.

[MADem]

33. They show it again a time or two on the alternate HBO channels

Tonight, I think, and tomorrow or Monday as well. Then it dumps to ON DEMAND...at least that is how it works in my neck-o-the-woods...

[npincus]

35. thanks! I'll check it out.