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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:40 PM
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Miers will probably be LEAST disastrous of Idiot Son's crony appointments
How's that for scary
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:42 PM
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1. Fucking mind-blowing. nt
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:43 PM
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2. I don't know... she's under tremendous pressure, if confirmed,
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 04:43 PM by npincus
not to let her mentor, and "the most brilliant man she's ever met" down. I think she will do everything in her power to fulfill the RWnut's expectations on behalf of the Monkey who promoted her.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:47 PM
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3. I agree. And in spite of all these Repubs saying they
do not want her, when the vote comes up they will all vote for her. She would make No. 5 to overturn Roe v Wade. That is what they want most of all.
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Little-Jen Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:02 PM
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5. No, at most she'll make #4
Scalia and Thomas are 100% against Roe, and Roberts probably is, so if she's against Roe, that makes 4. Kennedy, Souter, Stevens, Breyer, and Ginsberg are all in favor.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:14 PM
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6. Oops, you are correct.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:22 PM
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8. She may be #5 in the votes to greatly restrict Roe v. Wade. Kennedy will
uphold Roe, but he has also voted to allow the states to put whatever asinine restrictions on the right they want.
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Little-Jen Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:58 PM
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12. You are right
I also feel Kennedy has been moving to the right, and may totally vote to strike down Roe. Stranger things have happened.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:01 PM
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4. I don't care.
It's time to say no.

No records? No appointment!
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:18 PM
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7. Would you rather have
Janice Rogers-Brown or Miguel Estrada? Perhaps Michael Luttig?

I don't understand the desire to torpedo Miers. Yes, she's a bad choice - a horrible choice... but not because of her positions (we don't KNOW her positions). It's because she's barely qualified.

But there are plenty of highly-qualified people whose positions we KNOW... and I don't think anybody here would want them on the court.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:40 PM
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9. The object is to keep saying NO
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 05:43 PM by NV Whino
until we get someone acceptable. Yes, we will be accused of being obstructionists. So fucking what. These appointments are for life.

On Edit: What makes you think we will get records of anyone else? We certainly didn't for Roberts.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:43 PM
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10. But that won't be the result
At the second filibuster, if not the first, the republicans use the nuclear option to do away with the filibuster.

Then, a true wingnut gets confirmed, and the Dems have NOTHING left. You're living in a dreamworld if you think Dems can filibuster multiple nominees.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:55 PM
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11. If we must go down, then we go down swinging
rather than rolling over and saying "hit me again, please."

And don't discount the delay the filibuster(s) will cause. The entire makeup of congress could change in 2006.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:02 PM
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13. That sounds like
cutting off your nose to spite your face.

We have to accept the fact that Bush is NOT going to nominate somebody we like, and I think it would be foolhardy to lose the right to filibuster just for appearances' sake.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:32 PM
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14. The "right" to filibuster
at this stage of the game is a fallacy.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:40 PM
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15. Please explain the fallacy
as it stands today, the filibuster is intact. It can be taken away.

What's the fallacy?
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:17 PM
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16. The fallacy is
when we gave up the right to filibuster except under "extraordinary" circumstances. There is no definition of "extraordinary." At any point the conservatives in control of congress (in this case) can simply say, "That does not constitute 'extraordinary' circumstances, therefore, you may not filibuster."

If we controlled congress, we could do the same thing. However we don't control congress at this time.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:01 PM
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17. we "gave up" nothing
you act like it was a choice on the part of Dems. It most assuredly wasn't.

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