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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:38 PM
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Ohio town rejects Katrina victims. WTF?!

Geez--I hope these people don't ever need a little help themselves. Grrr.




Ohio Town Rejects Plan To House Katrina Victims

POSTED: 10:58 pm EDT October 5, 2005
UPDATED: 11:00 pm EDT October 5, 2005

RIDGEVILLE CORNERS, Ohio -- Officials in a small Ohio town turned down a church request to shelter people displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

The minister of Christ Community Church, in Ridgeville Corners, is blaming some of the opposition on racial prejudice.

The zoning appeals board rejected a request for a permit that would have allowed the church to renovate and provide temporary housing for up to 50 evacuees.

Some residents said they were worried the plan would change the character of the small village, home to fewer than 2,000 residents. They also expressed concern about safety and whether there were enough jobs to go around.

The minister said the church would do background checks on evacuees and that area employers assured him that jobs would be available.



http://www.wral.com/news/5063836/detail.html


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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:42 PM
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1. Who'd want to be around asswipes like that
anyway? geeeeeeeeeez, we have some inbreeding problems in this country, apparently!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:44 PM
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3. Really shows how f'ed up this country has gotten
over the last few years, imho.

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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:45 PM
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4. That part of Ohio is not the place to move
Hopefully they will find someplace much better.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:08 AM
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23. I'd say it's *just* the place to move
But that is just me and my obstinate self :smoke:
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:44 PM
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37. Racism aside...
They'd be hard pressed to find decent jobs I think. When I read about Katrina survivors being flown to parts of WV and rural Ohio the first thing I was concerned about is jobs. I hate to see those folks being sent to a place where they might be worse off. Know what I mean? Cripies, the children of the people living in those areas spend their entire childhoods waiting to get out.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:44 PM
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2. Rural part of western Ohio
Sadly, this is not surprising.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:46 PM
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5. Republican xenophobes, no doubt . . . nt
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:47 PM
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6. You bet
I don't know if they were thinking of moving minorities there, but I tell ya it would be a bad idea. And I can't imagine a minority person wanting to move there.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:58 PM
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7. Racism trumps Christianity...again
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:03 PM
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10. It seems that all sorts of terrible actions are able to trump
Christianity now days. That's because there are many crooks operating under the Christian banner who couldn't care less about the teachings of Jesus.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:56 PM
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12. Oh yes, Jesus...that strang dude who thought we ought to care about
poor people and silly ideas like that.The wouldn't make a very good right wing Christian now would he. They would probably think he was a liberal or a commie.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:03 AM
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13. I'm not a Christian. But, I'm somewhat familiar with the New Testament.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the RWing Christian leaders are not following the tenants of the Bible.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:08 AM
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14. The Right wing "christians" would be standing in line to throw stones
at Jesus.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:10 AM
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15. What I don't see is any true Christians complaining about
what has happened to their religion. It would seem to me that they would be very upset. Are they just some sort of silent majority group, turning the other cheek?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:33 AM
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17. A fair number are complaining, but the role of Christianity (as
opposed to the teachings of Jesus) has been to support the ruling elite and oppress the masses. It has been so since "Christianity" made it's sellout deal with the Roman empire. Since then it has been the legitimizer of the worst of human atrocities or the actual actor as in the case of the inquisition. "Christianity" suffers from it's cozy ties to the oppressive forces that the man Jesus stood against. When followers of that man speak out too loudly, they meet the same fate as their leader..assassination: Rev Martin Luther King, Archbishop Romero, etc. Few are really willing to stand up to the consequences of challenging oppressive regimes who have demonstrated their utmost willingness to kill hundreds of thousands, millions, in order to stay in power. Are you? Am I? I don't know.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:00 AM
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21. With Christians
we mostly do things just to do them. There is the Christian Progressives and Interfaith Alliance and some other groups out there. What can you do about it anyways? Christians can't even agree about how to worship and things like that apart of their own church. It's a lose-lose battle to me spiritually as a Christian. I just try to do my thing and be who I am and show Christ through me. Once my preacher asked during a sermon why Christians get such bad reps and I wanted to scream "well duh!" Because of where I stand on issues I've been called anti-Christian even though I don't follow the things I stand for (such as gay rights and being pro-choice). *sigh* Now days I just try my best to show people Christ through me and who I am and try to voice my opinion and when I know someone is being wrong about something. But it's such a spiritually draining battle. Especially when you're a lone.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:40 PM
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25. You are not alone! :-) nt
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:38 PM
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24. I complain all the time about it
I complain to my pastor who agrees and talks about hypocrites in his sermons. There are many good Christians who are sick to death of these phoneys!!

If these phoney Christians walked their talk, they'd never talk about others the way they do.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:07 PM
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28. I think many of them are in spiritual crises
I know a few who have quit going to church...my daughter loves to tell her x-tian friends in High School that "my mama says that a real Christian doesn't have to TELL you how good they are...their actions prove it"....basically because many of them talk about how "good" they are and then at the same time, advocate death penalties for gay PETA members who belong to the ACLU and have abortions for the fun of it.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:06 PM
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35. Christian Alliance
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:45 AM
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33. And prosecuting Mary
For being a single mother through means other than intercourse
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:53 PM
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26. Actually, the Christians were willing, even anxious, to help.
The church was prevented from helping by the town.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:02 PM
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8. Prior to 2004, I assumed that Ohio was one of our better states.
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 11:02 PM by ladjf
I was wrong. They are playing a major role in creating the horrible political mess that is plaguing the U.S. They seem to be a cesspool
of political corruption and social stupidity. Something is going very wrong in Ohio. The decent people there need to rise up against the corruption. It's making the whole state look terrible and its damaging the rest of America as well. (I don't mean to imply that Ohio has a monopoly on crooked politicians and preachers.)
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:06 PM
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31. Cleveland, Akron, Toledo, and Columbus are all decent places
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:07 PM by YOY
Although a good number of those of us who realized that there is more to life than crappy retail jobs and have left the troubled state.

Once you get into podunk it's just as red as some rural parts down south. There are a few nice folks who have common sense, but the bible beaters and rednecks prevail.

Then again, those refugees should count there blessing. There isn't much to do there on Saturday night and less work to be found on Monday morning.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:03 PM
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34. YEAH right
It ain't so great here around Akron , either. I am constantly amazed at the racist RW morons.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:32 PM
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36. Akron has seen better days true.
My freeper cousin lives there...so do some of my Democrat family that make me look like Rush Limbaugh in comparison of beliefs.

Do you really think the racist attitude is the prevalent one? Rednecks and hillbillies have had a foothold in the area for quite some time now admitadly, but there are a good number of open minded folks there as well.

THen again, as I mentioned, the city has seen better days.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:05 PM
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38. It seems more prevalent to me - maybe I am paying more attention now.
Get this - my dumbass, lazy freeptard ex-neighbors made their son stop playing with my little buddy (8 Y/O, great kid) who lives across the street because his dad is black.....my bud is black for god's sake...his mom is white. I was happy when they got evicted, but we got another confederate flag waver to take his place...
.:mad:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:39 PM
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39. Sorry to hear about it...glad the racist is gone but sorry for the new one
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 06:39 PM by YOY
Remember that since the steel industry died as did most of the industry around the Ohio river (East Liverpool, Athens and much of hillbilly Ohio) much of the residents of those small towns and cities have had to migrate. The rednecks have no-one to blame but the Rupubs and themselves (if they truly subscribe to Neocon beliefs.)

It seems to me that they've come in flocks to Cleveland (the "big city" :rofl:) over the past 20 years. Couple this with 'brain drain' and the change in political climate in large cities all over Ohio is easily explained. The level of racism when encountered has changed from the distrust of the immigrants and their children to the freep neocon true hatred.

Last time I went back I had the most darling conversation with a born-again than told me just how I wasn't a real X-tian (I'm catholic.)
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AintIgreat Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:03 PM
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9. Another example of Good Wholesome Christian Republikkkan Values..Barf!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:06 PM
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11. Well, it's all very strange and I don't know what to make of it.
Columbus OH was supposed to get some Katrina refugees but it was canceled. I believe it was canceled because nobody wanted to go to OH. So, why is this small town getting the refugees? It doesn't even make sense.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:20 AM
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16. NIMBY



I wouldn't be surprised to find they will all agree the "refugees" (as they might refer to them) are in need of help, but "let someone else help them" might be their preference.


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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:00 AM
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18. My God! If you are an evacuee, you need a background check
if you enter another state or city??? WTF is happening in this country? Why can't our communities, as a whole, help those in need without questioning who they are and why are they 'here'?

What kind of society do we live in?


Serious head-banging going on ......
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:52 AM
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19. Call this what you will
but church of christ is one of the more fundamentalist sects -- usually to the right of Baptists. (Note, not UCC which is fairly liberal).

This church is doing a good thing, and being thwarted. I se NO INDICATION THAT THEY EVEN CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS on the town council (although I assume they do).
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:03 AM
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22. I'm apart of the Church of Christ
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 02:06 AM by FreedomAngel82
and we as a whole are more indie. The people in general may be more rightleaning but I know some people who are independents in the church and some who are republicans. Where the church is concerned we're just very scripturul. My church has been doing a lot of fundraising for Katrina victims and we're going to take the supplies and money there ourselves to help out with other local churches in the area.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:56 AM
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20. Oh yes
They really care sooo much about people. :eyes: How Christian of them. :mad: As a Christian this is so shameful.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:00 PM
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27. Too many Blacks (if that is the case).
We all know some white people (if they are in fact white) get uncomfortable when they are around too many Blacks.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:18 PM
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29. I have to brag on my state then
A bunch of little towns in southeast Missouri, one of the most redneck parts of the state, have taken in hundreds of refugees. It's so incredibly lame of these good Ohio Christians to reject evacuees like this. Sad.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:47 PM
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30. Can't have that character of bigotry in our small town change now can we.
What do they have someone from Gretna advising them?
Background checks. FUBAR
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:23 AM
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32. GAWD I hate it hear in the hate-for-jesus belt
I gotta get outta here before I lose my mind.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:40 PM
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40. Hey yeah, I live VERY close to these people....
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 08:41 PM by madmom
and when I read it in the paper I couldn't believe it, then I thought about who said it and then said yes I can believe it. It was suppose to convert an unused second floor of a church into temporary apartments and the neighbors had a hissy, afraid the crime rate would go up (bill bennet anyone?)This part of nw ohio is nothing but a bunch of hypocritical holier-than-thou religious jerks.As far as jobs go there are lots of fast food joints and walmart not far away, (hey the repugs are saying we should be able to make a living working these kind of jobs)This just makes me furious!!!!:grr: :banghead: :rant:
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