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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:16 PM
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John Kerry Speech @ Brown University on Katrina
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:20 PM
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1. What will he send his team of lawyers to make sure that
all storms count and all storms are counted?

"Bitter table for one is ready."
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:38 PM
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5. Maybe just McTigue
That's the one he has in Ohio.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:44 AM
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18. You are doing yourself a disservice if you don't read this speech
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:22 PM
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2. Bush Plan = ""vast laboratory for right wing ideological experiments"
"The administration is recycling all their failed policies and shipping them to Louisiana."
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:34 PM
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3. My favorite part:
"Katrina is a symbol of all this administration does and doesn't do. Michael Brown -- or Brownie as the President so famously thanked him for doing a heck of a job - Brownie is to Katrina what Paul Bremer is to peace in Iraq; what George Tenet is to slam dunk intelligence; what Paul Wolfowitz is to parades paved with flowers in Baghdad; what Dick Cheney is to visionary energy policy; what Donald Rumsfeld is to basic war planning; what Tom Delay is to ethics; and what George Bush is to “Mission Accomplished” and "Wanted Dead or Alive." The bottom line is simple: The "we'll do whatever it takes" administration doesn't have what it takes to get the job done.

"This is the Katrina administration."
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:51 PM
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7. Very cool similes all....
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:36 PM
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4. I would have really liked it if ....
John Kerry would have scheduled the talk at a time when the working people of Rhode Island could have attended not just the Students.

This seems only fair since he didn't even bother attending much here during the campaign. It was all part of that "Go only for the States in Play thing."

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:50 PM
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6. wahhhh wahhhhh
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:08 PM
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9. You don't live here.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:15 PM
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15. What is that supposed to mean? LOL
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:00 PM
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8. It's the Licht Lecture Series at Brown
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 08:01 PM by sandnsea
Considering it's sponsored by the univeristy, I don't think the Senator has much to do with the time.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1373

Just as he's got nothing to do with the timing of the ANWR Rally tomorrow, where RFK, Jr. is also speaking...

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1379

Or a Prostate Cancer event that he is speaking at tomorrow as well.

What's your schedule? Mine hasn't been that busy since, well, maybe ever...


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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:24 PM
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10. The speech was I believe at 3-4pm. I worked til 5
This is a common occurrence ever since there was a lot of protest over Richard Pearle speaking. It was blamed on the townies, and townies haven't been let into a few events since. Some of these events are sponsored by state foundations for a private college, the public payed.....

But even before this there have been a LOT of figures that the 9-5 crowd never gets to see. I was lucky enough to see Bishop Desmond Tutu long ago, but during the working day of the week citizens have missed, Gorby, Bill Clinton a couple of months ago, Hell even George Clinton.

It's just a slice into the local politics of a university town, only our university pre-dates the US Constitution, so the result is like some little Haliburton crossed with the Vatican stuck in the middle of the city. The city only recently in the last three years started getting money from Brown to pay for the $20 million dollar bill for the extra utilities and services that they consume.

Anybody else got one of these schools?

But I guess this belongs over on the Rhode Island board y'know?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:35 PM
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11. A Dottie Licht grant
Perhaps your tax dollars weren't at work and you can rest easy. There was no extra room anyway, someone from Boston drove up/down, no room. I would think the primary obligation of the school should be to serve its students, yes? You're lucky to have such a school, and the money the students and faculty generate, business attracted, culture created, etc. And now $20 million to boot, wohoo. Sounds like quite the deal.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:53 PM
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13. No, 20 million is the deficit that Brown consumes from
the citizens.

Multiply it times the 300 years the university and city have co-existed. It's only 6 Trillion dollars. (6,000,000,000)

That's by no means good accountancy but you get the picture.

Some from the good some from the bad.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:04 PM
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14. There was no room at the inn on this one
I drove down from Mass and it was 'sold out.' They sent hundreds of people away because they ran out of seating space. One student asked the plainly logical question about why the event was held in a relatively small hall in the first place. Ask Brown why the scheduled it this way. Believe me, I wish it had been held in a bigger place.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:19 PM
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16. They held Tutu at the hockey stadium in the early 90's
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 09:20 PM by slampoet
but that venue is possibly night only or maybe times of the year dependent, but you are right that Brown has larger places they use.

Have a good night. gotta get up.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:31 PM
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17. Not exactly
What the school puts into the economy outweighs what it takes out, but that $20 million refers to a long term financial arrangement, not an annual thing. I'd have asked for free college for my A&B student kids, but I don't think any town has ever asked that of the colleges in their cities.

http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2002-03/02-148.html
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:37 PM
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12. Oh, and the schedule thing
zaswhweeng, that's it flying over your head. I meant, I've never had to keep a schedule like these Senators keep. It's actually quite daunting. I don't blame him for the times others choose for their events, or for having to change times in order for him to meet more than one obligation a day.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:47 AM
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19. (Random disparaging remark aimed at Kerry)
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 07:47 AM by jsamuel
Boo hoo
:cry:






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