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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:01 PM
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I'm worried that Governor Blanco and James Lee Witt
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 11:03 PM by ...of J.Temperance
Haven't been heard of today. Has Governor Blanco finally been strongarmed into signing over NOLA and La. full control to the Monster and his Fascist thugs?

The GOP are blaming Blanco for nearly EVERYTHING now. Why hasn't she come out and defended herself today against this?

Why are ALL of those NON-Louisiana National Guard troops still in NOLA, there's no violence to get under control, so why can't she tell the regular army to leave? Just leave a few thousand NG troops there instead?

Why were Rummy and Myers down there? Why are the military and Pentagon in charge and giving the press briefings about this operation?

Why can't Gov. Blanco ask for the NOLA evacuees to be distributed around other areas of Louisiana...why is she letting them be taken to Utah, West Virginia and other states? If James Lee Witt is in charge...why are FEMA taking control of these people and not even telling them WHERE they're going...UNTIL they GET to these far-flung regions of the country? Shouldn't Blanco be allowed to control where HER citizens are?

Why aren't we seeing the charity mentioned that Blanco set up to keep the financial donations going right to the state of Louisiana...all we get is ads for the Red Cross mostly. I bet MOST people don't even KNOW about that state charity, yet that, along with James Lee Witt, were meant to keep Baton Rouge INDEPENDENT from the Federal Government.

Why are FEMA directing charity donations towards Pat Robertson?

Why is Dick Cheney going to NOLA on Friday...WHAT could he POSSIBLY contribute?

In short, or in closing, do we STILL have evidence that Governor Blanco is in charge of NOLA and indeed is she still in charge of the NG, Sheriffs, Communications etc in her ENTIRE state?

Seems to me, that the GOP are squarely blaming the Louisiana Democrats here, they started that FULL ON today...and YET, unlike the last six days where they were ALSO blaming the Louisiana Democrats, those said Democrats have gone COMPLETELY SILENT.

Also, I'm not sure if I FULLY trust Ray Nagin, up until a few days before he announced that he was running for Mayor he'd been a Republican. He ONLY changed party for one reason, he wanted to be Mayor and he knew he'd never get elected Mayor in NOLA unless the people saw a D after his name.

Nagin's outburst's and blaming the Federal Government, his outbursts are now SILENT.

I'm getting BAD vibes about this newfound silence.
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:05 PM
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1. I've had mixed feelings on Nagin as well.
I've read and heard about reports that have made me reluctant to fully trust him. But I think his interview was authentic. At that point I think he just wanted to get people out. Didn't seem too concerned about politics. But now his silence...
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:19 PM
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11. heard he gave $ to Bush, and not Kerry. AND Shepard Smith said...
he ordered 400 (mostly tourists) to be helped out of the hyatt and to the front of the food lines at the superdome, ahead of poor people. So, :shrug:

Still, whatever his politics, I don't blame him for any of this. I think the comparisons to guiliani are unfair. He had an awful disaster put in his hands, without ANY federal help.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:03 PM
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32. That's a rumor that the repugs have been circulating
'he ordered 400 (mostly tourists) to be helped out of the hyatt and to the front of the food lines at the superdome, ahead of poor people.'

Haven't yet been able to find anything to back it up.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:50 PM
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36. well, Shepard Smith was reporting it live on faux...now, i know it's
faux news, but o'reilly was downing playing the treatment of the victims there, saying that race and poverty weren't an issue. That's when Shep lost it on him, and said things aren't fair and equal. So, who knows?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:25 PM
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13. Nagin is a HERO
Go read the reports from during the storm. Go listen to the audio. He did everything he could to save NO and he's still doing everything he can. Unlike a lot of the repugs around here.

Of course, Rove wants every to believe that this mess is his fault. Take a look at who stayed with the ship and who went of vacation instead.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:32 PM
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14. I'm not doubting Nagin's courage and heroism
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 12:34 PM by ...of J.Temperance
But I'm getting a bad feeling as to why he's stopped defending himself and giving Bush Inc. shit, like he was for 6 days.

You can't EVER stop giving it to these bastards. They MURDERED tens of thousands of people and let a MAJOR city pretty much just fall off the map. They need to be squashed.

So far, Marie Laveau hasn't heard us :(
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:42 PM
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15. Doesn't he have better things to do
other then defend himself? His people are still dieing. The public record will save him.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:55 PM
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16. Yes, but the public record
Will be twisted and spun by Rove and his whores in the media, it's already happening.

If Blanco and Nagin don't keep up the fight, I hate to even admit this, but by the time all of this is over, the Bush bastard will have them prosecuted. The pig shit is getting away with this. And he'll punish those who dared to call him out for what he is, a racist who has committed genocide.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:42 PM
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27. Then we need to do whatever we can
to help spread the truth.

Nagin will coming out of this smelling like roses.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:38 PM
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35. I hope the truth does come out and get spread around
We all know who's right and who's the murderous vampires here...we need to make sure everybody ELSE knows it too.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:06 PM
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2. They are busy DOING the job FEMA was supposed to do
Yesterday Witt said the central command and control would be up and running so I suspect that is where they are, at least James Lee certainly is.

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:09 PM
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5. that's the new talking point..
.. that bushrove want all over the air.

Getting the job done, providing aid, cleaning up, etc... are so important that we don't want to talk about blame any more.

Bullshit!

They can do both! And it's not as if FEMA or the Red Cross are doing any of these jobs anyway.

Sue
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:20 PM
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6. I was referring to the Governor and James Lee Witt NOT
FEMA or the bush admin. It was in reference as to why they hadn't been seen today.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:06 PM
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3. Good questions and concerns..
Thank you for posting this.

I feel those bad vibes too. The fix is in, I guess. The Bushco mob have silenced or intimidated everyone willing to speak out against the fed and Bush on MSM.

The evacuees are being moved around and manipulated into silence and compliance as well.. so traumatized they can hardly speak or function.. so grateful for help that they just accept it all.. or dead.

Sue
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:05 PM
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8. These are SERIOUS questions and I'd be grateful if SOMEBODY would
Attempt to answer at least a few of these questions. I know that there are people on these DU boards who can get various sorts of information about this sort of thing.

I'm sure that a few answers would put a lot of minds at rest.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:08 PM
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4. They are busy saving lives. Not every moment is political.
They have real problems to deal with and don't have a highly financed, well paid echo chamber at their disposal.

Their story will come - when their city is at rest.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:20 PM
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7. NOLA WON'T be at rest IF the Bush Inc. bastards take control of it
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 11:28 PM by ...of J.Temperance
They'll shut off the city, once the remaining people have been kicked out. Then the Federal Government will send in a team to "assess" NOLA and under Bush Inc. orders will CONDEMN the whole place.

Bush Inc. will then SEIZE control of all land and buildings under the CONVENIENTLY newly passed Eminent Domain, whereby the Bush Inc. crowd will then let ALL of their cronies in, to buy up EVERYTHING...I think this is why Cheney's going on Friday, he's going to "check NOLA out for the Carlyle Group."

The way I see it, the Louisiana State Government COULD send their OWN people in, they could condemn it too, and Baton Rouge could seize control of all land and buildings under Eminent Domain...and THEN NOLA could be rebuilt as best as they could LIKE IT WAS pre-Katrina.

Baton Rouge's silence is DEAFENING...especially after nearly ALL of them have been going apeshit for the past 6 days.

Re. Senator Landrieu, she said if there was ONE MORE WORD of blaming of the Louisiana Democrats, she was going to punch Shithead.

I must have NOT been paying attention TODAY, because it's COMPLETELY escaped me, the story of Landrieu PUNCHING all those who are TODAY blaming the Louisiana Democrats for EVERYTHING.

There's something rotten in Denmark, I can FEEL it, I really can and I'm HURTING badly over it :( I bet they've said to them: "Hey, remember Paul Wellstone?" And IF Bush Inc. HAVE threatened to MURDER them, then they should come RIGHT OUT and tell people, they should BUST this fucking bastard's head ONCE AND FOR ALL. Tell people, tell them how he bullies, strongarms and threatens to MURDER anyone who doesn't give in to HIM. Bust the cocksucker, it's the only way this Monster is EVER going to be stopped.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:09 PM
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9. bush cannot seize Louisiana's assets as long as the Governor
doesn't give up her authority and she has not. Their dispicable attempt to force her to do that failed and failed miserably, thank goodness.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:16 PM
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10. But can Blanco STOP Bush Inc. from seizing NOLA by Eniment Domain?
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 12:18 PM by ...of J.Temperance
To me, THIS is THE most important question. Can the Louisiana State Government prevent NOLA from being STOLEN by the Fascist pig fuckers?

Oh dear, this is SO upsetting, I can FEEL my soul dying more and more each day.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

It seems like we have a few months tops. Why can't the Louisiana State Legislature call an emergency session to prevent the Monster and his thugs from seizing NOLA by Eniment Domain?

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:57 PM
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17. The Federal Government does not have the authority to seize a
STATE's assets by eminent domain in ANY way.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:12 PM
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19. I'm afraid there is a good chance you're right.... eom
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:14 PM
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20. How are they gonna steal it?
What's your precedent?
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:24 PM
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22. I read on another thread about the New London Eminent Domain thing
Once the Federal Government is in charge, like I fear they are, in a few months they'll condemn the place and then my guts are telling me it'll be Eminent Domain time.

I feel so helpless, if I could do something I would, but what I really WANT to do would get me arrested or shot.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:32 PM
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25. Do we have NEW proof that Blanco HASN'T given up authority?
The proof we had before, the proof we were all rejoicing over...that was DAYS ago.

Where's our proof for TODAY? Because NOLA looks like it's turning into Baghdad Jnr.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:41 PM
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31. It's hard to prove a negative, there is nothing to say she has
given up her authority. Her last statement on this re-affirmed that she maintained her authority. I have no doubt she would have to put out a press release and hold a press conference if she had relinquished her authority.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:34 PM
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34. I think you're right
Governor Blanco or somebody close to her WOULD have got info out if she'd have been FORCED to give in.

Again I'm sorry for all of the panic in this thread, but you know...I panicked and got into a state. I just needed some reassurance from people who might know more about this than I do.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:52 PM
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37. She was just on CNN and as feisty as ever, she is in full
'battle' mode, imo. I have no doubt she and her staff are documenting everything to be used when the investigation starts.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:21 PM
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38. Thank goodness :)
I can now rest some. "...she is in full battle mode"

FAB!

Thanks for telling me this mon amie, you're a good soul :)
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:21 PM
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12. I wouldn't be surprised because if I know my Democratic party
there probably wasn't one prominent dem "leader" who came to her defense. She is left fending for herself along with Landrieu. I hope I'm wrong.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:11 PM
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18. How come they aren't blaming ol' Haley?
That's what I want to know. Things aren't so great down there, either, with the dysentery and all. You'd think, with Haley being a bushbot and all, would have the cavalry in there stat.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:21 PM
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21. Because he's a Repuke and because the Repukes want NOLA and I'm
Afraid it now looks as if they've GOT NOLA :(

They've wanted it for decades, but the PEOPLE of the Crescent City were in the way...and these MONSTERS have used this TERRIBLE tragedy to get what they've ALWAYS wanted.

They don't care about Mississippi and Alabama...it's Louisiana and their 25% of oil that the state of Louisiana provides the rest of the country with.

This is NO different to why they invaded Iraq, it's for the oil and it's for the real estate and land. The pigs have taken over Iraq and Louisiana for the SAME reasons and I want them to BURN in the pits of Hell for this.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:26 PM
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23. She's in a cabinet meeting!!
MEDIA ADVISORY- Governor Blanco Convenes Cabinet Meeting

BATON ROUGE, LA – Governor Blanco Convenes Cabinet Meeting on Wednesday, September 7th, 2005.

WHERE: State Police Headquarters
3rd Floor
Conference Room 300

WHEN: 10:30 a.m. CST

Working media are invited for a brief photo opportunity at the beginning of the meeting.

-30-

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:42 PM
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26. Oh heck, I DON'T want to give up hoping
I just want some PROOF is all.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:47 PM
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28. If you have all these bad vibes
maybe it's time for a break and stiff drink, or whatever your poison happens to be. Please calm down, we don't need any more of this rumor mongering and alarmism. The truth is posted and documented all over this forum, you just have to read the threads.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:54 PM
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29. I was thinking of jumping out of the window
But I'll have some Tequila instead.

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to alarm people etc. I was just genuinely WORRIED and I was desperate for somebody or ANYBODY to reassure me with some evidence that Governor Blanco hadn't given in.

Thanks mon amie.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:12 PM
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30. Friday was the turning point when Bush
tried to trick/force her into signing her state away to the Federal Government. It is apparent that she didn't take the bait, because after a 90 minute meeting, which is incredibly long for Bush to do anything, he came pissed has a cat on a hot tin roof, and she looked like the cat that just ate the canary. It was at that moment that our country was saved. I seriously doubt if Bush will try that trick again.

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treading_water Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:08 PM
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33. Details please!
I missed this. Can you give me details? What happened? Any photos?
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:29 PM
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24. The TV decides who gets on TV.
nt
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