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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:10 PM
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Grover Norquist blames chaos in NO on Dem Mayor & Dem Gov
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 04:10 PM by Jon8503
See it is not race, its Bush politics as usual:


Bush partisans went on the offensive. Grover Norquist, the conservative activist with close ties to Karl Rove, blamed the chaos on "looting in a Democratic city run by a Democratic mayor and a Democratic governor."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9190580/
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:11 PM
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1. Can I drown Grover Norquist in my bathtub?
Please???
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:12 PM
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5. sure.. can I watch?. . . . .eom
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:13 PM
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6. Damn you beat me
I was just going to tell him to go drown himself in a bathtub.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:18 PM
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21. Someone already beat you to it Ben
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:45 PM
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44. Ooh, that's the first real laugh I've had all day.
:grouphug: :loveya:

How kind, how gracious you are to bring such joy in the midst of misery! Must think pleasant thoughts...
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jeffreyi Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:43 PM
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41. I will stand by with an extra bucket of water nt
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:18 AM
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47. Can we fit the rest of the neo-cons in there too? n/t
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:59 AM
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51. For this comment, how about taking him to the "gatorbowl"...
... not the stadium, just a big bowl with nothing but Grover and some hungry 'gators.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:11 PM
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2. OK, now do we stand up?? Now do we say something,
Dem leaders???

Unconscionable, these people are really androids....
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM
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25. Are you kidding? They're waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.
Kucinich is the ONLY Dem that I have seen to make a forceful statement on this situation so far without first worrying about his own ass.

JB
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:11 PM
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3. fuck off Grover you piece of shit
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:17 PM
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19. It's not the rest of the country's fault you weren't breastfed. n/t
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:12 PM
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4. I thought Grover liked small gov't so what did he expect folks to do?
Call out the national guard? Oh, that's right...they tried that.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:13 PM
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7. I thought we weren't supposed to politicize this.
I wish Grover Norquist would drown in his own bathtub.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:16 PM
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17. No, they just needed time
to figure out how to blame the Democrats.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:23 PM
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30. A pathetic attempt to squeeze a Democrats face in it somewhere. n/t
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:13 PM
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8. Grover Norquist is an idiot of monumental proportions.
Words fail me to describe the disdain I feel for him, Bush, and all his minions. Blame it on Democratics?? And we're not supposed to blame anything on Bush because it's a "natural disaster"? God, I can't even think straight anymore. SHAME on them!! May everyone know the truth and may the truth set us FREE of these evil, destructive ***holes!!

Tired Old Cynic
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:13 PM
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9. "Big Government" is finally small enough to
drown NO anyway. Good on ya Grover, you fucktard.
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:14 PM
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10. Hardly surprising, is it.
To be even-handed, anti-Bush partisans have been slinging away with broad indictments and hyperbole since Sunday, perhaps earlier.

I'm not defending Bush or FEMA's actions, merely noting that politics goes on, as usual. It's unfortunate.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:15 PM
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11. Why don't we use this POS as a sandbag?
We should respond in kind and demand Bush's impeachment for having the National Guard in Iraq for his illegal war while the people of Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi were in need of their Guard.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:15 PM
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12. Ha Ha
This guy should be arrested for his terrorist sympathizing.

Honest.

He once posed as a mujahadeen in a photo with mercenaries.

He publicly praised bin laden.

Admires Stalin.

Citizen's Arrest anyone?
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:15 PM
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13. I think God is just ringing his hands
in anticipation of getting them around Norquist's neck some day.
Along with Novak, Rove, Hannity So on and So on and So on.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:15 PM
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14. I think I'd really enjoy...
... dropping him off in the Astrodome right now....
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:15 PM
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15. Interesting that Grover would comment at all.
Some Dem leader needs to get out there with his bathtub comment and remind the nation that NO drowned in Grover's bathtub. Grover is a terrorist, actively fighting to destroy this nations infrastructure. He is a traitor.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:16 PM
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16. Can't wait for Leading Democrats to go after him for that one.
nt
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:17 PM
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18. He's despicable.
Simply despicable.
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:17 PM
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20. I thought the mayor was a Repub?
(I know, it shocked me to find out too:)
tib
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:20 PM
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22. Fuck him.
Tom Russert interrupts: Shouldn’t the mayor of New Orleans and the governor bear some responsibility? Couldn’t they have been much more forceful, much more effective and much more organized about evacuating the area?

Aaron Broussard continues, but Tom Russert speaks over him: “Hold on a minute…”

Broussard: Sir, they were told, like me, every single day “The calvary’s coming.” On a federal level, “the calvary’s coming. the calvary's coming. the calvary's coming." I have just begun to hear the hoofs of the calvary. The cavalry is still not here yet, but I’ve begun to hear the hoofs and we’re almost a week out. Let me just give you three quick examples. We had Walmart deliver three trucks of water, trailer trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They said we didn’t need them. This was a week ago.

FEMA. We had a thousand gallons of diesel fuel on a coast guard vessel docked in my parish. The Coast Guard said “come get the fuel right away.” When we got there with out trucks, they got a word. “FEMA said don’t give you the fuel.”

Yesterday. Yesterday! FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. Cut em without notice. Our Sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in. He reconnects the line and he posts armed guards on our line. And he says, “No one’s getting near these lines.” Sheriff Harry Lee says if America … American government would have responded like Walmart has responded we wouldn’t be in this crisis. But I want to thank Governor Blanco for all she’s done and all the leadership. She sent in the National Guard. I just repaired a breach on my side of the 17th street canal, that the secretary didn’t foresee. A three hundred foot breach. I just completed it yesterday, with convoys of National guards and local parish workers and levy board people. It took us 2 and half days, working 24/7.

Russert interrupts with a grunt, sounds annoyed

Broussard: I just closed it. I’m telling you. Most importantly, I want to thank my public employees {Russert grunts again) that have worked 24/7, that burn out – the doctors, the nurses… I want to give you one last story and I’ll shut up and let you tell me whatever you want to tell me.

The guy who runs this building that I’m in , emergency management, he’s responsible for everything. His mother was trapped {Broussard starts to cry.} in St Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, “Are you coming, son?” “Is somebody coming?” And he said, “yeah Mama, somebody’s coming to get you. Somebody’s coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Friday. And she drowned on Friday night. She drowned on Friday night.”

Russert interrupts: Mr. President…

Broussard: “Nobody’s coming to get us. Nobody’s coming to get us. The Secretary’s promised. Everybody’s promised. They’ve had press conferences. I’m.. I’m sick of the press conferences. For God’s sake, shut up and send us somebody!” {deep sobs}

Russert interrupts again, in a softer tone: Take a pause, Mr. President. While you gather yourself. These are very emotional times. I understand. Let me go to governor Haley Barber of Mississippi (sp?).
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM
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24. This is more heinous than Pat Robertson's call for assassination of
Chavez. Norquist is guilty as hell, and he knows it.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM
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26. Well now it all makes sense on the slow response
First The Bush admin lets 9/11 happen. Sorry folks but a plane does not fly in the wrong direction for an hour without airtraffic control knowing about it.

and now they are slow to respond to this to further show how INCOMPETENT the democrats really are. This administration is as EVIL as it gets. I'm actually scared now. Karl Rove is really really an evil pig.
Its the democrats fault.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM
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27. I hope Grover is proud of himself. The government is small enough...
To drown babies in the bathtub! Congratulations Grover! Mission accomplished!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:23 PM
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28. Front man for Al Qaeda fundraisers.....why does Norquist hate
America so much? When we get our governnment back, I hope he's brought to justice with the rest of the junta.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:36 PM
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37. This has been around for a while.
Some one in a position to actually do something needs to smear Grover all over the place. He'a a nasty little parasite.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:23 PM
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29. Go away, Grover.
Your little junta is so over.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:23 PM
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31. Question
How quick did Florida get their disaster aid????
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:24 PM
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32. grover pissant norquist is circling
the drain of his own dirty little bathtub!
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:26 PM
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33. Shut up Grover, I think your little cabal has already done enough damage
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:27 PM
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34. Grover Norquist can suck the shit straight out of my ass and choke on it.
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Cogito ergo doleo Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:33 PM
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35. The NO chaos is directly attributable to Norquist - his idea of no gov.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:34 PM
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36. Oh THERE'S a surprise...
...HA!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:38 PM
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38. What did you expect from another shit-fuck bigot Repuke moron
He would kill his mother for a dollar - like any Republican.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:44 AM
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49. Hell, he'd do it for a quarter -
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 03:48 AM by libhill
n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:40 PM
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39. Amazing that Norquist walks around DC WITHOUT taxpayer funded...
protection and spouts off inflammatory shit like this so often
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:40 PM
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40. I need to call my man Oscar the Grouch to kick Grover's ass n/t
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:45 PM
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42. The real Grover Norquist is expressed in the image with Grover
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:45 PM
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43. Preservation of the republican's image is first and foremost.......
even at the expense of the Katrina disaster and its victims. IMPEACH bush NOW!!!!!!!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:39 PM
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45. Right - and some A-rabs ran through the offices of the Pentagon,
FEMA, the State Department, the WH and erased all their knowledge and files on what to do in a crisis.

Dam that really big magnet!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:15 AM
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46. Typical policy for this administration blame goes down, not up.
:shrug:
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:18 AM
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48. Im feeling sick to my stomach
With what the right is going to put the Mayor thru in the next few days.

I hope Im wrong, and the media will put blame where it deserves to be.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:56 AM
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50. But now's not the time for pointing fingers and politicizing...
...and if you believe that, I have some oceanfront property in Montana to sell you.

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:13 AM
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52. Norquist is an ass, but I wouldn't underestimate his roll with media
We will likely see a great deal of what he says being repeated elsewhere. My only hope in this case is that so many of these participants in Norquist's "fax tree" will grow some balls (or ovaries) and speak truth to power rather than continue the "echo effect".

If you haven't read Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s an article, The Disinformation Society, now is a good time to do so (I posted this same thing on other related threads, but it is very fitting here, too):

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=874


Norquist has a lock on the media message that is so tight that it’s positively frightening. Kennedy, in his article The Disinformation Society, lays out Norquist’s control of the media using some references from David Brock’s book, The Republican Noise Machine…

… “the cues by which mainstream news directors decide what is important to cover are no longer being suggested by The New York Times and other responsible media outlets, but rather by the “shadowy” participants of a Washington, D.C. meeting convened by Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform., an anti-government organization that seeks to prevent federal regulation of business.”

“Every Wednesday morning the leaders of 80 conservative organizations meet in Washington in Norquist’s boardroom. This radical cabal formulates policy with the Republican National Committee and the White House, developing talking points that go out to the conservative media via a sophisticated fax tree. Soon, millions of Americans are hearing the same message from cable mews commentators and thousands of talk jocks across America. Their precisely crafted message and language then percolate through the mainstream media to form the underlying assumptions of our national debate.”

“This meeting has now grown to include more than 120 participants, including industry lobbyists and representatives of conservative media outlets such as The Washington Times and the National Review. According to Brock, columnist Bob Novak sends a researcher. The Wall Street Journal’s Peggy Noonan may attend in person. The lockstep coordination among right-wing political operatives and the press is new in American politics.”

A typical meeting might focus on a new tax proposal released by President Bush. Following conference calls throughout the week, the decision will be made to call the plan “bold.” Over the next 10 days, radio and cable will reiterate that it’s “bold, bold, bold.” The result, according to Brock, is that “people come to think that there must be something “bold” about this plan.”

“This highly integrated network has given the right frightening power to disseminate its propaganda and has dramatically changed the way Americans get their information and formulate policy. In The Republican Noise Machine, Brock alleges routine fraud and systematically dishonest practices by his former employer the Reverend Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Times, which is the primary propaganda organ for Moon’s agenda to establish America as a Fascist theocracy. The paper doesn’t reach more than a hundred thousand subscribers, but its articles are read on air by Rush Limbaugh, reaching 15 million people, and are posted on Matt Drudge’s Website, to reach another 7 million people, and its writers regularly appear on The O’Reilly Factor, before another 2 million. Network TV talk-show producers and bookers use those appearances as a tip sheet for picking subject matter and guests for their own shows. And so the capacity of the conservative movement to disseminate propaganda has increased exponentially.”



The article in its entirety can be found here:

http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1517


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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:57 AM
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53. Mullah Grover has got to go!
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