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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:28 PM
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Did I miss something? An official declaration of some type?
Perhaps I missed it or peraps this isn't as important as I thought, but I was wondering aloud today at work, and my colleagues echoed me.

Shouldn't there have been an official declaration of a disaster occurring?

Is this important or just a formality?

And what's with these weird statistics from DHS that I found while trying to stanch my curiousity? Where'd these stats come from?

Key Federal Statistics for the Gulf Region Response


Lives Saved – 4,500
People Assisted – 30,000
Refugees Evacuated/Assisted – 22,000
Federal Law Enforcement Officers – 400
U. S. Coast Guard – 4,000
National Guard – 15,000
U. S. Military Forces – 7,843
Relief Supplies Delivered (tons) – 125 tons

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=4781


The one that gets me is the "lives saved," from what?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:32 PM
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1. "Lives saved" = People snatched off their roof and thrown into hell
within the military prison known as the Superdome.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:33 PM
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3. I wonder if they're keeping track of the people that died in the SD
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 08:33 PM by SofaKingLiberal
some of the ones they 'saved' might be dead.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:32 PM
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2. I'm guessing to 4500 saved
People who were rescued from roofs etc by helicopter or boat.
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:33 PM
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4. you've got to be kidding me...
they got 10K people locked in the convention center but have time to keep records
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:45 PM
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11. DINGDINGDING! We have a winner.
That's what I found disturbing, too.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:33 PM
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5. They have to make hay fast
Once the horror stories and death tolls start coming in, they're going to have a lot to answer for.

This is all CYA stuff. Within a few weeks, people will want to know why there was no extensive pre-landfall preparation like there was for last year's hurricane strikes.

Oh, right. I forgot. Last year was an election year!

--p!
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:34 PM
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6. It was declared BEFORE the hurricane hit.
Which makes the slow federal response even MORE scandalous.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/27/tropical.weather/

Governors of both Louisiana and Mississippi declared emergencies Friday in anticipation of the strengthening storm.

"Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a test. This is the real deal," New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said at a news conference.


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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:39 PM
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10. And George Bush himself went on national television to warn America
before he went off to celebrate John McCain's birthday with a cake followed by a guitar concert in San Diego AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The Chimp knew. Bush KNEW and still did nothing.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:34 PM
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7. There is a legel term that Chertoff used the other day which allows
all these things to be put into effect--He talked of it--a 400 page directive from Homeland Security.

You might find it via goggle. It was two words but sorry I do not recall at the moment.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:35 PM
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8. one of the talking heads today mentioned these stats at a news
conference.

Lives Saved – 4,500
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:37 PM
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9. Chertoff mentioned it at his press conference (same day as Bush talked)
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vivalarev Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:47 PM
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12. Complete Bullshit
Fuck those sons a bitches. Look at the goddamn numbers and you know they're lying, and even being really bold about it. The only acurate or (non-round number on there is the military). They made the other shit up.

They need to define this trash. What exactly is "Lives Saved" to them? Handing a bottle of water to a thirsty refugee?

God I hate how our government tries to suck its own dick!!!!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:48 PM
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13. Note, too--"refugees assisted" and "people assisted"
Pray tell, what is the difference?

I'm not really sure I want to know what their idea of the difference is.
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