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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:05 AM
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THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE--RESCUE EFFORTS STOPPED!
CNN just reported that rescue efforts have stopped due to fear for the rescuer's safety. What in the world is going on??? How did America, the greatest country in the world, no have a plan to rescue these poor people in a city that was proned to flood.

They are leaving them there to die people! *co will pay this this screw up dearly!!!!:mad: :grr:
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:07 AM
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1. like others, i think something else is going on...
i don't know what, i don't know why.

but i do have a sinking feeling in my gut.
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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:08 AM
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5. I know.....we start noticed too...
some thing is up..what is it???
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:11 AM
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11. Now they can blame the massive death toll of the "looters" instead
of their own incompetence!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:15 AM
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24. Yes... that is what this is stinking of now...
Would our troops abandon tens of thousands of civilians because of one or two maverick criminals shooting at them... WHERE IS THE NATIONAL GUARD? Why wouldn't they be PREPARED for this?

How on earth did we get anyone out of Vietnam?!? What is WRONG with this picture?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:26 AM
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34. no do not let them do that
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD TO NOT BE THERE IN THE THOUSANDS. 10000 HEAVILY ARMED NATIONAL GUARD CAN TAKE CARE OF ANY LOOTING, BUT THEY ARE NOT FUCKING THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:36 PM
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49. Call everyone. Bush has just signed their death warrant! He is used to
sending the guard into dangerous war zones. WHY NOT NEW ORLEANS!. Damn it. The people who need to be saved are in thr flooded zone. The looters are in the dry zone. Safety? Don't fly over the dry zone.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:41 AM
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43. Exactly - they will blame the "looters" and will use this heavily in 2006
elections.
On one of the Sunday gasbag shows a week or two back (Face the Nation?), Howard Dean said that the Pugs were gearing up to demonize illegal immigrants and use that as their fear-and-hate election issue the way they used gays last time. I've noticed since then that Dean's prediction seemed to be right on the money- lots of media crap about immigrants recently. Now it looks like it might be a double whammy - they'll add in all the law-and-order-Willie-Horton-scary-black-people racist shit that's worked so well for them in the past.

I hate these fokkers with the heat of a thousand suns...
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:13 AM
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16. My guess: They're going to bring in Northern Command.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:17 AM
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27. Before Thanksgiving I hope. That way we can get a pic of prez with
another plastic turkey!
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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:47 AM
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47. well...
did you think because they are going to have "HOUSEKEEPING" to do .. ? :scared: you know "clean house"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:19 AM
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28. Probably all the BIOLOGICAL and CHEMICAL releases in the water by now.
Expect a new plague.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:07 AM
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2. I heard people were shooting at military choppers... n/t
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:14 AM
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20. The military gets shot at in Iraq and their missions don't stop. n/m
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:23 AM
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29. Probably BFEE...this whole tragedy is THEIR preferred method of population
control.

I think they plan to seize control of everything with martial law.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:27 AM
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35. They were ambulance service choppers being shot at
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 11:34 AM by DemBones DemBones
and the ambulance service chief said he wouldn't put his pilots at risk any longer.

Read nola.com -- it's the NO Times-Picayune site.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:08 AM
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3. Rightwingers are already blaming the people trapped there ...
for chosing to be there.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:17 AM
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Such an attitude will result in civil war
I will not tolerate human scum that would blame victims for their reaction.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:08 AM
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4. The New Orleans Death Pool.
That's what they are creating.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:08 AM
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6. I read somewhere that Russia offered search and rescue assistance
I have to find the link....

unreal.. or surreal I should say. How horrible!
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:10 AM
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10. Russia, Canada, the Netherlands and Venezuela have all offered help
only to be turned down by the DeathChimp's misadministration. :grr: :puke:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:31 AM
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37. Do you have a link for this?
My mother said the chimp would never turn down help.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:40 AM
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42. There are threads about all on various DU boards
Sorry I don't have links.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:13 AM
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17. It will be too late by the time they get here. Three days with no water
except toxic soup. This is catestrophic! FEMA and Bush are responsible.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:09 AM
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7. Am waiting for reports of all the levees giving way
They've demonized all the victims who were too poor to be able to leave, the city is not gonna be salvageable and there has been plenty of time to plant explosive charges.

It's September. No Cheney sightings for awhile. Surprise!
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:12 AM
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12. i believe the water levels have about "evened out"...
therefore, levees giving way now would change nothing.

but really, i could be completely wrong on that.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:24 AM
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30. If they gave way all over, it would change a lot
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:09 AM
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8. Let's stop IRAQ. Same reason.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:09 AM
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9. Wouldn't be happening if Bush didn't send our national guard away
to fight his bullshit war.

95% of the deaths in NOLA are Bush's fault (no NG and massive levee funding cuts). I want him impeached and convicted for murder, NOW.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:12 AM
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13. ya know, this could all be handled by our marines and army
but who would have the ability to order them to enter the fold....hmm i wonder...........
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:15 AM
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22. They aren't there yet. They knew a week ago that a big one was in the Gulf
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:12 AM
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14. At the NO Convention center they have NOTHING. A man said they
have to steal water just to live.

The reporter on CNN is now saying "These people are being forced to live like animals. Thousands of them living in the most deplorable conditions. People are dying. There are dead bodies. We watched someone dying, seizures and no one can do anything, no medicine, no airlifts. Babies living in the worst conditions. Pregnant women. Where are the buses? Where is the help? What is the plan?"
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:15 AM
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23. A CNN reporter said a baby just died at the convention center. n/m
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:13 AM
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15. I call that Freedom
It's on the march. It's hard work. It's on the internets. Freedom....to not have to help those who need...freedom. And with freedom, they can't leave yet.

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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:14 AM
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18. Homeland Sec chief Chertow gave away their mentality ...
i think it was on cnn or nbc this am. He said that local officials ordered an evacuation and people who didn't leave made the wrong decision. That's it -- that's how they think

so people just have to suffer and pay for their "wrong decisions". they don't care that thousands of people were too poor to leave.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:14 AM
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19. Countries all over the world have offered assistance and they
have been told NO yet FEMA can't do the job. I am in a state of total disbelief at this, it is beyond comprehension.
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Jecks Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:45 AM
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45. That is wrong.
The author of that rumor was Sorcha Faal.

Google Sorcha Faal and see if you find "her" (actually a he named David Booth) credible
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:14 AM
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21. Harry Conick Jr called CNN BEGGING for help for these people
He had gone in to help and was at the Convention center. He said people are dying and near death and that they need to DO SOMETHING. He sounded very shaken.

Why can't they airdrop food and water?

Why are they letting those people die? OMG. :cry:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:25 AM
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32. How did Harry get in there? Thank God for him, but we need a million more
of him.
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MidnightWind Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:34 AM
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38. He did the same on MSNBC.
I have never in my life seen the type of things I'm seeing on my TV right now and fucking Scottie is standing up there telling us that King George is having "lunch with Greenspan". There is a total fucking disconnect between the feds and the immense human suffering that is going on in this country.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:15 AM
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25. They gotta go perteck Wal-Mart from looters.
And * sez we will prosecute anyone who is profiteering, anyone who charges more than $10 a gallon is in real trouble. Cuz neocons are the only ones allowed to profiteer.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:17 AM
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26. This is just fucking HORRIBLE!!!!!
Shit. :cry: They're just abandoning people!!!
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:25 AM
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31. damn
10:34 A.M. - Hoss: Stories of armed, roving gangs going around town looting every business they come across have been overexaggerated by the national media.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:26 AM
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33. This is starting to remind me of how the soviets treated the...
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 11:27 AM by jim3775
chernobyl disaster.

"dont worry we are putting out thie fire" "nothing to see here" "we are helping people"
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM
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good god, you're right.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM
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good god, you're right.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM
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good god, you're right.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM
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good god, you're right.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM
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39. good god, you're right.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:37 AM
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40. good god, you're right.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:30 AM
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36. We've come a long way haven't we?
From the days of "Don't worry ma'am. The White Star Line will take care of you," to "Greed is good," to now where it's basically everyone for themselves and damn the consequences.

I hate what society has become and I hate what they've done to this country. I hate them.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:40 AM
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41. Me, too.
Me, too. :cry:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:42 AM
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44. Okay, where is the best place in the system to start
applying pressure for immediate response from the feds? Congress? Do they not have some oversight for this?
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:47 AM
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46. A look at history...
The Storm After the Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/opinion/01brooks.html?th&emc=th

<snip>
Then in 1927, the great Mississippi flood rumbled down upon New Orleans. As Barry writes in his account, "Rising Tide," the disaster ripped the veil off the genteel, feudal relations between whites and blacks, and revealed the festering iniquities. Blacks were rounded up into work camps and held by armed guards. They were prevented from leaving as the waters rose. A steamer, the Capitol, played "Bye Bye Blackbird" as it sailed away. The racist violence that followed the floods helped persuade many blacks to move north.

Civic leaders intentionally flooded poor and middle-class areas to ease the water's pressure on the city, and then reneged on promises to compensate those whose homes were destroyed. That helped fuel the populist anger that led to Huey Long's success. Across the country people demanded that the federal government get involved in disaster relief, helping to set the stage for the New Deal. The local civic elite turned insular and reactionary, and New Orleans never really recovered its preflood vibrancy.
*******

Read the whole article, and note the similarities between the past events and the present.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:48 AM
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48. HERES THE NUMBERS TO CALL TO STOP THE GENOCIDE
CONGRESS PHONE #'S - CALL & DEMAND THEY CONTINUE RESCUE- THIS IS GENOCIDE
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 12:46 PM by Pallas180

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress /

SO THEY SHOOT AT US IN IRAQ AND THEY AINT PULLING OUT FROM THERE.

THIS IS GENOCIDE

DEMAND THAT SENATOR/CONGRESS AT LEAST DEMAND THEY DROP MRE'S AND

WATER FROM THE HELICOPTERS TO THOSE THOUSANDS WHO ARE IN THE WRONG

PLACE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER!!!!!

THIS IS URGENT

THEY'RE DYING ON THE STREETS FROM NO WATER AND FOOD.

THESE COULD BE DROPPED FROM COPTERS EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT PICKING

THEM UP

IMPEACH THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS

NO WATER NO FOOD STOPPING RESCUE IS GENOCIDE

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