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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:16 AM
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Tinfoil Alert : This is taking on all the "elements of 911"....maybe worse
Here are the undisputed facts:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4545852&mesg_id=4545852

To summarize:
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* Bush knew about NO as being "one of three potential National Disasters
* Bush cut funding...
* FEMA talked about how they drilled on this potential for "years" before the Katrina hit....however the support was slow and few.


IF they knew, if they drilled, then why "wait"...?????



What "laws are being passed" or what is the byproduct of this"??
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* Massive Wealth Transfer across the country....this is the same as war profiteering.

* Katrina will be "blamed for economic woes" ...no longer a housing bubble or lack of alternative energy planning by govt. and much more.


Flame me all you want ...but all of the above are facts.



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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:17 AM
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1. No flames from me. n/t
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:17 AM
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2. Why would we flame the truth?
That's an exact summary of what's happening and what will happen
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:20 AM
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3. Same question: incompetence or LIHOP?
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 09:23 AM by leveymg
we know MIHOP is out of the question this time.

I tend to think that the federal emergency response system is just dead from the neck up, ERW political appointees without qualification or quality, like the rest of this Administration.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:21 AM
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4. Isn't it MIHOP if you know disaster will result

unless you take preventive measures and you don't take those preventive measures?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:27 AM
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8. No, that's reckless endangerment. MIHOP implies an active
conspiracy and a real intent to see the crime occur.

This is "just" thousands of more counts of negligent homicide for which the Bush Administration will have to stand trial along with 9/11.

The Iraq War was MIHOP. Another set of major felonies and capital crimes.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:34 AM
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13. Indeed. No one can "make" a hurricane.
You can however be grossly neglegent and not prepare properly.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:22 AM
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5. A flame......... to light the truth as cthrumatrix tells it.

Yup... soon comes the government over reaction in the form of rushed, non competitive bids to favorite Republican businesses to to rebuild NO.

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:24 AM
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6. Three to four, maybe to five dollar a gallon gas, stock market in black...
or a least holding it's own. The classic signs of rich getting richer and poor kicked to the curb. Just think of all them poor homeless who will never be able to have that home in N.O. back.

The silver lining is them red states are starting to feel the bite of them republican crooks :-)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:25 AM
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7. How 'bout just LIH ? (Pronounced Lie)
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:28 AM
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9. Faith Based Disaster Planning
I'd guess that * was involved in a meeting last week where he was told that the damage wouldn't be that bad. He was probably told this by the same asshats that tell him global warming doesn't exist, passing the best possible scenarios as being the most likely to happen.

They did the very least possible, which amounted to little more than telling people to leave the area. Real contingency planning would have required mobilizing the national guard, setting aside food, water and medical supplies, etc. all of which costs money. Telling people to leave costs nothing.

This isn't LIHOP. This is criminal negligence.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:29 AM
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10. bush is "not in control"...he wasn't in control of 911 either....a puppet
for TPTB...
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:31 AM
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11. Bush cut funding before Katrina hit, not after
THe simplest answer is that he probably raided the fund to pay his rich buddies or for his adventure in Iraq.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:32 AM
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12. Read this... but first place tinfoil hat firmly on your head...then click
http://brianboyko.com/2005/09/01/katrinas-conspiracy-theory/


Warning: Conspiracy Theory, Editorial Content, Take with a heaping spoonful of salt.

Why the apathy towards Katrina, but no apathy towards Ivan, as Alene Walker pointed out?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:35 AM
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16. there is an "oil / gas element to New Orleans and Katrina"
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:42 AM
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17. No tin foil required. Would ANYONE be surprised that those who hold
political advantage would do everything in their power to PROFIT both financially and politically (and I do NOT mean 'win votes' as they no longer need them and haven't for three election cycles) from a catastrophe of this magnitude?

Al Gore said these people are a threat to our national security. Ambassador Joseph Wilson said these people are a threat to our national security. That isn't because they are INCOMPETANT, it is because they truly do not give a shit about anything but their wealth and power. They have repeatedly exposed this nation to great danger and will continue to do so, WILLFULLY.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:37 AM
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18. the dots are there to be connected --- WTF are our leaders or media?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:49 AM
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19. both totally compromised
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:34 AM
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14. This is the way it seems to me, too. PLUS, they are generating a "REASON"
to EXICUTE citizens without due process. This is a VERY VERY BAD PRECEDENT to allow these mother fuckers to set.

See my threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4544175

and

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4542661
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:35 AM
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15. you got that right.. these Fascist B*stards are out of touch with reality.
:headbang: :yourock: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:54 AM
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20. LIHOAOC not LIHOP
Let It Happen On Account of Callousness
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:55 AM
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21. Worse because of the scale!
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