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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:16 AM
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NEED INFO...On Collin Powell...Mi Lai Cover-up/Iran Contra -Tow Misssles..
I'm trying to find well documented sources that speak to Powells involvement in the Mi Lai Coverup and in Tow Missle dealings for the Iran Contra scheme.


Any help?
(Please don't just point me to google....)
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:27 AM
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1. Have you tried google?
I am sorry, I couldnt pass it up. I am not familair with the tow missle dealings for Iran Contra.

I know stingers went to Iran when we were not dealing with terrorists, bur bush sr. and ronnie were.

I could not believe the scandel didnt stick.

good luck!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:53 AM
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4. No, Stingers went to Afghanistan...
...to help Osama and his pals shoot down Russian helicopters and supply planes.

Tow missiles & parts went to Iran as part of the Iran-Conta dealings to replenish & repair the stocks left over from the Shah's purchases.
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:49 AM
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2. try this
Edited on Tue Jul-15-03 07:52 AM by protect freedom impe
Colin Powell served in a higher level position for this Vietnam military massacre unit...he lied about what happened here, and covered it up for his superiors...Powell has no moral authority to speak for the United States of America (especially before the world, in the UN)...he should have been disciplined for his part in this horror...or resigned in shame...and who knows how many more unreported massacres occurred in Vietnam due to Powell's failure to take action on My Lai....

here is a graphic depiction of the massacre from Time magazine

http://pathfinder.com/photo/essay/mylai/mylaihp.htm


-snip-

Several months later, the Americal's brutality would become a moral test for Major Powell, too.

A letter had been written by a young specialist fourth class named Tom Glen, who had served in an Americal mortar platoon and was nearing the end of his Army tour. In the letter to Gen. Creighton Abrams, the commander of all U.S. forces in Vietnam, Glen accused the Americal division of routine brutality against civilians.

Glen's letter was forwarded to the Americal headquarters at Chu Lai where it landed on Major Powell's desk.

"The average GI's attitude toward and treatment of the Vietnamese people all too often is a complete denial of all our country is attempting to accomplish in the realm of human relations," Glen wrote.

"Far beyond merely dismissing the Vietnamese as 'slopes' or 'gooks,' in both deed and thought, too many American soldiers seem to discount their very humanity; and with this attitude inflict upon the Vietnamese citizenry humiliations, both psychological and physical,
........

.....skip........


“Fired with an emotionalism that belies unconscionable hatred, and armed with a vocabulary consisting of 'You VC,' soldiers commonly 'interrogate' by means of torture that has been presented as the particular habit of the enemy. Severe beatings and torture at knife point are usual means of questioning captives or of convincing a suspect that he is, indeed, a Viet Cong. ...

“It would indeed be terrible to find it necessary to believe that an American soldier that harbors such racial intolerance and disregard for justice and human feeling is a prototype of all American national character; yet the frequency of such soldiers lends credulity to such beliefs. ...

“What has been outlined here I have seen not only in my own unit, but also in others we have worked with, and I fear it is universal. If this is indeed the case, it is a problem which cannot be overlooked, but can through a more firm implementation of the codes of MACV (Military Assistance Command Vietnam) and the Geneva Conventions, perhaps be eradicated."


Powell's Response

The letter's troubling allegations were not well received at Americal headquarters.


........skip..........


It would take another Americal hero, an infantryman named Ron Ridenhour, to piece together the truth about the atrocity at My Lai. After returning to the United States, Ridenhour interviewed Americal comrades who had participated in the massacre.

On his own, Ridenhour compiled this shocking information into a report and forwarded it to the Army inspector general. The IG's office conducted an aggressive official investigation, in marked contrast to Powell's review.

Confirming Ridenhour's report, the Army finally faced the horrible truth. Courts martial were held against officers and enlisted men who were implicated in the murder of the My Lai civilians.

After the scandal broke, Powell pleaded ignorance about the actual My Lai massacre.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/121700b.html
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:52 AM
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3. Great source:
Consortium News is a reliable source, and also has a search engine :)

The Legend Behind Colin Powell:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/121700a.html
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